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Fox Farms Ocean Forest with ~30% Perlite mix.
Switched to ~4 Gal smart pot mid week.
Day 14 Update: soil dried up a lot... watered ~750mL of PH 5.8 water. Poor girl doesn't look okay after the transplant or watering... Not sure what to do next. Current plan is to wait it out another 2 days before the next watering...
Update 4/27 (HK time): So impressed with the recovery! Finally she's getting some height, I told my girlfriend to move the lights up a few inches three days ago and it sure did make a difference. Can't wait to get home and begin the LST and feeding schedule.
Update 4/29 (PST): missed a watering so she has a few nute deficiencies...in light of that I watered her with 0.5 gallons of PH6.5 to dissolve any salts or buildup...then watered another 0.5 gallons of PH 6.5 two hours later to flush the dissolved solids.
In addition, I began LST and tucked a few big fan leaves to expose all of the beautiful new growth. Hopefully I did it right!
I think like my plant is beginning to flower...? I have not used any nutes yet but I have Fox Farms Trio and am wondering should I start the bloom nutes or use veg nutes on my next water? When do I switch to flower nutes if I start with veg nutes? I water every ~4 days...
I'd consider this still veg personally. I don't consider the plant switched over to flower until after its into its flowering stretch and putting out small bud sites. I'd go with the veg nutes with the next watering and I'd also go 1/2 (or 1/4) strength. Autos seem to do better with lower nute levels and can get nutrient burn at full strength. Good luck!
First feed this week. Hope I got it right!
I think there is beginning to be a magnesium deficiency but I’ll wait a few days to see if my feed last night will clear it up.
Yesterday evening (day 35) she was stretching to about 6" high and the soil was about an inch lower than when I started. So I removed all of the LST ties and added another inch of soil. Honestly, I'm not sure if that was the right thing to do but I didn't want any roots become exposed should the soil have lowered further after the next few waterings. I noticed the lower leaves were having brown spots that seem to match that of a Cal or Mag deficiency so I added that to the latest feed. Once I fed her, I tucked all of the leaves and tied down 5 stems that look like they will be the biggest bud sites.
On the next grow, I think I'll add even more perlite to the mix.
NOTE: ALL LOGGED MEASUREMENTS TAKEN AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH WEEK.
Gave her her first feed of Bloom Nutes last night! I did mix in a very low level of grow big (nitrogen rich) nutes because she's still stretching and also didn't want to raise the PPM to much. Interestingly my tap water usually runs around PH 8.0 and requires a bit of PH down to get it in the right range. However, when I mixed all of the nutes together last night the PH was 6.8 without adding any buffer solution. So that was a pleasant surprise and definitely helped keep the PPM down in a tolerable range (I think?).
Really excited to see here in the next phase of development.
The defoliation session last week is really starting to show results. The bud sites are stretching and exposed smaller sites are showing a lot more white hairs.
I saw a gnat a or two but haven’t seen any leaf damage from them... my small fan is blowing through the canopy so that might be why there isn’t any damage, it’s to windy to land.
I actually diluted this feed a bit because the ppm was reading ~850. I poured out ~15% and topped off with normal tap. After it read: PH 6.6 and PPM 766.
Got a note from someone on Reddit saying the leaves are too green... so I'm thinking I will skip the next few feedings and just water.
Wondering if there's a phosphorous deficiency cropping up and whether or not feed bloom nutes tonight or to water? I'm leaning on feeding because I noticed this issue has gotten worse with 24 hours...
Update 6/10: Still showing what I think is a nute lock out on lower leaves from a too low PH. I flushed with 2 gallons of PH 7.2 but runoff was still around 6.6. Will let that sit for 2 days and feed again with bloom nutes and PH 7 ish.
Hoping that the PH issue I had is fixed from the flush a few days ago. Since then, I have fed her healthy dose of Bloom nutes to replenish whatever was washed out in the flush.
Looking like I'll need to do a partial harvest in the next week...the pictures (taken on the same day) show the most mature cola and the least mature cola. My gut says, they're two weeks apart.
Started flushing because I think these are a week out from harvest... Not quite sure though because some of the sample bud I had was super heady which I typically don't mind but it was a bit too heady for my taste.
Chopped down with 276g wet 20g wet from the other week. Lots of stalks on the weight so I'll update with dry weights (no stalks in a few days. Had great day trimming with homies!
Update 7/4/18: Yield of 56g dry! Smoked the week 11 sample harvest today. A very smooth smoke, no coughing, taste was good but it was mild. The high was extremely uplifting and very potent so a few hits took me into the atmosphere pretty quickly. Still surprised that I grew this lol.
I think this sample was dried way to quickly (2 days) opposed to the main harvest (4 days). Definitely rushed the drying process 2 weeks ago...I'll chalk it up to being way to excited! This process has been a great lesson in patience.
Looking forward to trying the main harvest in a few weeks...hoping a citrusy flavor will be more present in this batch.
Seemed to always have a Phosphorus deficiency so I’m thinking the Buds could have been fatter. Not sure if it’s nutrient selection or my bad feeding schedule?
Found that drying with lights off keeps temp and humidity at 69F/63% RH and with the lights on 72F/55% RH.
I think I’ll continue with the lights on one day lights off another day until dry. Learned that I dried my sample bud to fast last time so I’m really trying to pay attention to get the drying environment just right this time.
@dudegrowsweed decided to defoliate the stuff below canopy that was looking under developed. Too aggressive for a lil auto 5 weeks in? For or better or for worse, I'm about to learn a lot LOL check out the latest pics (Day 37)
@DudeGrowsWeed, phewww. This first grow is a bit nerve wracking because there's no real experience to know what to expect after experimenting. Thanks for checking in and helping me along!
@Jaindoh, thanks for the insight! Definitely feels a bit slowed down compared to other Auto diaries I see but but she seems healthy which is all I can ask for. Can't wait to see what she'll be like at week 10!
I'd consider this still veg personally. I don't consider the plant switched over to flower until after its into its flowering stretch and putting out small bud sites. I'd go with the veg nutes with the next watering and I'd also go 1/2 (or 1/4) strength. Autos seem to do better with lower nute levels and can get nutrient burn at full strength. Good luck!
@PussyWagon6969, I'd stick with veg nutes for now. Switch to flowering nutes once you can easily see the bud sites. I would wait for the bud sites to be about the size of marbles or dimes. Hope that helps!
@DudeGrowsWeed, Since your comment I've done one feeding and just last night did one watering with PH'd water. She's moving right along and looks happy (I think)! I added another close-up picture of today's (day 33) bud sites and am wondering if you think the next round of feeding (3 days from now) should still be veg nutes? Thanks for your input!
@Jaindoh hope all is well with your grow! Would you mind taking a look at my pics from this week? I started flushing a week ago because they 'feel' ready but I'm honestly not sure... I tried some sample bud (the oldest cola) from last weeks partial harvest and it was super heady... little more heady than I'd like.
It's weird because some of the bud tips are turning a grayish purple and I'm not sure if that means they've gone past the harvest window or that means they are getting nice and ripe..? Any insight is appreciated!
@PussyWagon6969,
i only have one rule for myself about that, and it's in the vein of "when we win, we celebrate"
there were a lot of ancient peoples and religions, but one common theme:
harvest = feast =)
your mileage may vary ;P
@Jaindoh, Thanks man, guess I'll be having a trim party around this weekend then! Damn, I didn't know people try to harvest within hours...that's some serious precision for the typical 'one week window'.
@PussyWagon6969,
You're inside the harvest window now. If you want, you can take it cola by cola, or the whole thing. Some will be a little more up, some a little less.
You could wait a day or two. The semi-cloudy ones will get cloudier, but some of those cloudy's might go amber. Sleepy pot isn't terrible, either. What you want is for the stems to be looking less glass and flaccid, more plastic and erect.
Since you're in soil, you can flush more than one week as well. Good to remember next time.
I use a 100x but mine is really really crappy and I get inconsistent results from poor readings. Not the best guy to ask about hitting that harvest within hours of 80% cloudy. I need to buy a tablet and a microscope, or a new phone and a microscope, I suppose. This is the guide I use:
https://www.growweedeasy.com/harvest
Looking good!
Looks like she could use the humidity higher to transpire better, but that's not too hard. I've been struggling to keep my young plants at 60-70% and 20-22c (68-72f) to keep them h appy myself.
What I do is use foliar. Particularly when I can't get it up into the right range in the chart, or even not -- slightly less frequently. 1ml/liter(4 liters to a gallon) calmag, very weak food, rooting supplement. Works wonders.
Doing well =)
http://www.just4growers.com/stream/temperature-humidity-and-c02/vapor-pressure-deficit-the-hidden-force-on-your-plants.aspx
@PussyWagon6969, I run a humidifier outside my veg tent, yeah. You can get a cheapo one even.
All I know about the other thing is that I had several crops before I started really watching humidity. They were always dry and over-transpiring, I had not started using foliar when they are like that, yet.
Since I have begun keeping an eye on my VPD charts, air temperatures, temperatures of the leaves, keeping it cooler and moister, my vegging has been much more vigorous.
Particularly since I'm operating without central a/c, it takes up a lot of free time making sure the atmosphere is right.
I'd say temp/humidity is more important than brand of nutrients, it's right up on the top priority list.
@Jaindoh, thanks for the link! I only have 17" x 17" floor space and not much room outside of the tent to duct humid air in either... I was thinking one of those small table top humidifiers on Amazon that I could just pop in the corner of the tent below my pot.
Any recommended small humidifiers that could fit in my tent?
Also, I read that if you start your plants in low RH you can effectively "harden" them to the conditions... what are your thoughts on that?
First grows are scary but also exciting! Liked and followed; let us know if you have any further questions =)
So long as your roots are fine and the leaves took the damage, you should be good. Maybe stunt it a little. If something did happen to the roots, you'll know because it'll be extra stunted. Judging by how you stressed it, and how well it has recovered... I suspect everything will work out just fine =)
@Jaindoh, Thanks for the note! I'm definitely stoked on the recovery so far...currently abroad with my lady watching the plant... the anticipation to get home and check in is rough lol.
Now is the perfect time to thin out those leaves shading all of that middle stuff, and cut off anything at the very bottom not getting any light.
Any later, and you're still fine -- it's just ideal to lessen impact and make sure the plant can still recover during the flower.
I think if you do that you would see some big things happening in the middle of all that over the next week.
Doing great =)
@PussyWagon6969, fuhgeddabout it. worst case is they get droopy during a part of their rooting or vegging or flowering waves. i always start real early due to this, get them used to it. even if they do, it's super minor, like LSTing them good, if even.
I would lean toward feeding more as well.
Just remember to double check the pH; the first time I did Ocean Forest and Trio I had some real bad issues by thinking I didn't need to. If you haven't been, it's not a terrible idea to catch some runoff and run a test on that. Know that the strips won't work for that, it requires a pen.
@PussyWagon6969, partial harvest is great, ive been told (and feared) shocking the plant that late but tbh any shock after it quits making leaves/veg growth *seems* to send it into "panic, mature now"
mostly i have too many colas, too many plants, too many jars curing, and too shitty of a 100x non-powered microscope XD
@Jaindoh, I think the deficiency has slowed down since the flush but not 100% confident yet. I will feed her tomorrow morning and continue monitoring...
I have another question for you about partial harvesting... My latest picture upload shows that the more mature buds are about 2 weeks ahead of the less mature ones... Ideally, I'd like to harvest all at once because I'm scared a partial harvest may result in herming... any tips/advice? Thanks in advance!
@Jaindoh, thanks for checking in! I noticed in my log book my runoff ph had been sitting around 6.1-6.3 for the last month... sensing a phosphorus lockout (thats what the leaves look like) and flushed tonight with 2 gals of ph 7.2. Runoff was still ph6.5 so I’m gonna feed in two days again with ph 7 ish again... I’ll let you know how it goes!
@BucketBrigade, she did! The bottom leaves totally fried off though... but she's reaching for light and has a lot of new growth. Won't be able to update for a week cuz I'm currently abroad... will post updates as soon as I'm back!
*Edit* was able to get a few photos up showing the recovery... take a look!
look at your trics man under a handheld microscope magnifying glass wont work and it is also by preference most people start looking for an amber hue at the tips of your trics
@Purpdaddy87, thanks for the note! The trich pics in week 12 are from a handheld scope (100x) that I painstakingly took the pictures with lol. I wish I had a USB one to take better pics but oh well...
It seems that she's starting to develop a phosphorus deficiency. I think tonight I'm going to flush with PH'd water and feed with bloom nutes this evening. Although, I would rather wait another day for her to dry out I don't want this problem to spread anymore than it already has...
@PussyWagon6969, I can tell you that my TD does not like nutrients.
I feel like every time I have given her some it is brought up a new weekly problem.
With water only she is doing great. I was following fox farm schedule and hit her with a quarter dose of grow and bloom but it bleached out my leaves.
Water for me the rest of my grow.
Your plant looks great by the way. Much bigger than mine. Good luck
PussyWagon6969
