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Neo_007
Neo_007started grow question 4 years ago
My healthiest, 2nd fastest growing plant experiment: in peat/perlite/castings 10oz tea bag on ebb/flow. ( has aphids ). was a rooted clone 5 DAYS AGO. Plan: transplant into rinsed, phed hydroton in net pot and LEAVE in ebb/flow, flooding every 3 hrs. Would it work?
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 4 years ago
Okay I'll answer to that separately -For your current plan if your plant is already in potting soil then avoid growing it in a hydroponic manner, this will only invite mold, mildew, root rot, and more problem like it! Look around your house for a container that can hold your plant for now, anything that can hold more than 8-9 liters should do, get some holes punctured at the bottom of it for drainage and transplant your plant to it with soil (if you don't have any more soil mix then a temporary home mix would do fine - some soil from outside with gravel/vermiculite/perlite in it for drainage and aeration). -this will also replace your plan B, but as for automating it I'd go with either drip system that has an irrigation (with air stone to keep it oxidized) and runoff reservoirs - the idea is to have a pump or gravity fed nozzle working on a timer that controls the amount watered in a specific time frame i.e. work the pump/nozzle for 20 minutes with a 150ml/min dripper to water your plants 3 liters. The runoff reservoir could also be connected to a drain outside the grow space to get rid of it instantly (there's a few designs to keep a small amount of runoff for testing when doing that). -Soil is more forgiving than hydroponics and soilless medias due to the simple fact that in soil the plants have a slower reaction to stress!! ever wondered why hydroponic and soilless grows get so big so quickly? that's because they take the maximum amount of nutrients straight to the roots with no buffer in-between but that also puts the plants at risk of over/under feeding and other problems hydroponic grows come with (usually root related). That's why soil mixes are usually the way to go for new inexperienced growers and why people say it is more "forgiving" -Try not to mix growing mediums and methods on a single plant because it may cause stress due to inconsistency, and it'll make it hard to fix problems due to the many variables. -To completely automate your grow and have some hands off time of up to 1-2 weeks you can try the drip system I mentioned above with big enough reservoirs to accommodate your needs (up to 2 weeks and then a fertilizing increases in the watering reservoir), or go for DWC setup if you want to go hydroponic (up to 1 week in which by the end of it the water in the bucket/reservoir needs to be replaced) which will give you faster and stronger growth but with greater risk and less automation! *I never got to experience with an ebb/flow setup and not quite sure about the efficiency of it, yield and automation in mind, so advice from other growers who have tried it would be best or just research online and experience it with trial and error. *If you ask me then I'd go with a full drip setup in fabric pots (9-11 liters ideally) with a balanced soil and soilless mix grow medium, get it all automated with timers and reservoirs. If you want to do it with hydroponics then DWC would do great or you could experiment in that ebb/flow setup.
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Neo_007
Neo_007answered grow question 4 years ago
Thank you @BluntZilla for the quick answers! Here is the thing: on this particular table, the girls roots are mostly hidden as they are pushed together, and I totally agree about the time to transplant being now... Im 100% with you on that. However, I currently have my veg space and bloom space in the same room, its all in veg. And I am super nervous about having anything vegging and possible light leaks as I have lost entire harvests to that in the past. So, I do want to transplant her, and she is going straight into bloom, but I am stuck on the question of how: So far, soil is out. My ability to automate watering is deeply in question and until I have a proven system for automated watering in soil I just cant do it anymore. Plus, this girl is basically hydro... she was a rooted clone in a rapid rooter cube 5 days ago. Literally. Shes at 1' ish right now, in 5 days. So, something about hydros working for me. Thus, Im solid on some version of hydro, due to the profoundly fast growth I just witnessed, but... my decision is on how. Current plan: put this girl square in the middle of a net pot with hydroton and ebb/flow the table 3x/day like she has been getting downside: its going to mix media, never heard of anyone doing that. status: hydroton is soaking and ph balacing as we speak, all tools are on hand except the ebb.flow kit which is 4 days out from delivery. Plan B: give her another teabag, like the one she has. biggest I can find are 3/4 of a gallon, and i have them on hand. And then continue to do what I have been doing: ebb and flow, with space for the roots to airprune when they hit the edge of the bag. reasoning behind plan B - - "soil is more forgiving" supposedly, - its already what I am doing with a slightly larger pot, and its the highest performing style 2nd only to my aero clones - BUT - as you and others have mentioned, it might run the risk of 'overwatering' - because I am frankly only interested in growing methods that involve automated watering on a timer - be it ebb and flow recirc or drip drain to waste, hell... I would roll the dice with DWC even instead of being tied-to-the-garden hand watering and being unable to go on a trip to see the woman I love for 5 days whenever she says 'I feel like a crazy trip to hawaii" , etc So given that context: do you think plan a would work? transplant, hydroton, this in the center, flip to bloom now. Is plan B better? Another alternative ? thoughts?
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 4 years ago
Oh and for aphids I believe I mentioned it before in one of your questions - Try using a mixture of Tomato leaf water (water that had tomato leaves in it for a day or two/ water with tomato leaf extract), neem oil (go half of the recommended dosage) and a bit of plant safe dish-soap sprayed under the foliage an hour or two before lights turn on to fight those aphids! Good luck! and happy growing :)
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 4 years ago
You need to transplant her to a bigger pot ASAP, leaving that many exposed roots to moisture and light can easily cause root rot and kill her in matter of days. after transplanting give her a good nutrient filled watering with a good 20-30% runoff! After a few days in a new pot try topping and training her for better spread and light exposure. Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
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