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domaintraveler
domaintravelerstarted grow question 3 years ago
Ideas on why these leaves are curling downward and seem almost "shriveled"?Soil has been wet/moist consistently and heat hasn't really gone above 78F. They are in ocean forest soil getting a suggested nute dosage can't imagine its deficient at this stage. Light or wind stress?
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hi there Domaintraveler, i gotta disagree with my growmie odrex on this one, the seedlings cant be rootbound at this stage : they're just too small. What happened is that there was overwatering that caused root issues. So it's really easy to overwater seedlings like that because the plant doesnt really need more than a few mL like 25-50mL max at this stage. if you give it more it's usually fine but it can lead to problems like what you have now. So basically the moisture is a breeding ground for "water mold" and this you need to fix by a longer dry period. usually the mold will disappear by itself and the plant will recover, but if it doesnt what you need to do is fix the root zone. This you can do by using additives like beneficial bacteria which take a while to fix things or humic and fluvic acid which will break down the problem roots and regulate the medium quite well. Hope this helps ! 🚀
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domaintraveler
domaintraveleranswered grow question 3 years ago
Thank you all. The overwatering would make sense. I've traditionally been in a much drier atmosphere and struggled with heat because of MH for Veg. Soil was rarely wet for more than a few hours in those days. With a controlled tent, more humid conditions, and LEDs I suppose I should have factored in the need for less watering! I took a very thin nail and "probed" or opened the soil a bit to allow better airflow from both the top, and bottom through the drain holes. It's been about a half of a day since then and it's helping the soil dry up faster. The leaves seem a bit more normal looking too already unless I'm just blind to my own optimism! I'll let this soil dry a bit more and plan to transplant when I can eventually water next into containers with better drainage. All answers have been great and I really appreciate the time you all gave me! Will update according 💯
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GrowCN
GrowCNanswered grow question 3 years ago
I'm another vote for too much water. Don't forget that red plastic cups don't let water evaporate like a clay pot or even the plant's final pot where excess water can absorb into the soil beyond the roots reach. I like peat pots or home made newspaper pots because they allow water to evaporate away much more quickly making over watering less likely. The downside is you have to water more frequently. In general less water is better than too much. A plant will press the pause button during a drought but too much water will rot the roots and harm beneficial bacteria in the soil.
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Red_Eyed_Jedi
Red_Eyed_Jedianswered grow question 3 years ago
I would have to agree with DasBoof on this one. Over watering in such big Solo cups happens to the best of them. Flush, and give them some Real Growers Recharge and wait 1 to 2 days and definitely let them drain better and you should see better results. I say flush because if you have pH issues that early on, you can fix it if you act fast. Hope this helps. Stay frosty and high.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 3 years ago
Well what I am seeing is too much water. Might want to add course perlite to your main substrate mix. Roots need to breath. Perlite is like air pockets in soil. Fabric bags are also great for helping avoid this. Back off the water it is not a good hydro soil mix as is in cups. Need those air pockets and a lot of them for the resistance to over watering. Good luck and happy growing 🌱
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odrex
odrexanswered grow question 3 years ago
In my limited experience and knowledge I believe it could be the plant being root bound or over-watering or a combination of both. The roots poking out the bottom suggests the plants have outlived their life in that container. If you had drainage issues before the substrate could be too moist. How often/how much do you water the plants?
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