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AutoflowersSucK
AutoflowersSucKstarted grow question a year ago
Why grow Autoflower plants indoors? I just don't get the appeal. Yes, they auto flower, who cares? You have a light timer to induce flowering, right? Yes, they grow short, who cares? You are in full control of your height with pruning and Lst, topping, when you flip to flower,
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AutoflowersSucK
AutoflowersSucKanswered grow question a year ago
So, here's my take on it. Firstly, yes, that a perpetual harvest i can see as being advantageous. You can toss vegging auto's into 1 tent with the flowering auto's and just roll and roll. I get that, totally and i never thought of that before. Thanks to the person that explained that. The appeal of that i can see because there's no need for a veg space with a second tent/room light, fan, timer, humidifier, etc. Thanks basically where my agreement ends. The negative's are that you are running your light 24/7, which draws power 24/7 and burns your lights out faster leading to higher electricity cost and faster light degradation and light replacement. Secondly, you have to continuously buy seeds from these god damn ripoff seed banks. These days you can pay a seed which is just them making money hand over fist at your expense. It's bullshit! I buy 3 seeds from seed banks, or 5 packs. I sprout 1 seed and store the rest for future use. (I've sprouted 12 year old seeds in the past) In fact the Lemon Kush diary i have right now are clones from a seed i got as a freebee back in 2011 that i had in the fridge all these years. The advantages of Photo period seeds, are many, and they are all cost saving advantages. #1, buy your strain once. Grow it up as a mother, enjoy endless clones of your favorite strains. I keep 3 mother's. Lemon Kush, Oreoz, Biscotti Mintz. I don't need to whip out my credit card every few months! Seed breeders LOVE auto purchasers because it keeps them in the green, Literally. I can cut as many clones as I want for myself, or i can sell clones privately as a revenue stream. 👍 #2 Vegging mother's and clones and young rooted clones can all be achieved in a 3x3 tent with a 165w LED. Optic 2 Veg is what i use. Yes, you need to buy a few things, Tent, light, timer, extraction fan, oscillating fan, etc. But those are 1 time payments that will last you like 5 years, maybe more. #3 My equipment has a rest period every day, which reduces the wear and tear and extends the life of my equipment. It also reduces my electrical costs. 👍 In my opinion, I can now see who Auto's are marketed to, and I mean no offence when i say this, but in my opinion they cater to the not so serious, novice half ass grower that isn't an enthusiast, but wants to grow their own smoke. Or the know nothing grower that's looking for a cheap easy way (or so they think) to grow their own without the big investment that a more seasoned enthusiast would drop. I started growing when i was 14 years old in my dad's basement under a 4' Fluorescent light. By my mid 20's I was renting houses and running 13x1000w lights etc etc. This was all in Vancouver British Columbia back in the good old days (early 90's). What i'm getting at is that the lower mainland of british columbia is the same as seattle washington. By that i mean it rains a LOT. So to have weed outside that finishes in October, forget it. You'll be bud rotted right out of your hard work. And outdoor gorilla growing is hard work! Auto's were not a thing back in those days, but if they were, it would have been awesome cuz you can finish before the rainy season! And that is what i believe Auto's are best suited for. The other bonus is that they are mush harder to spot by air because of their small stature. I had cops fly 200ft over my parents house in a 1 prop by plane more than once. I remember running outside and yelling for my dad to hide the 5 and 6ft plants under the big cedar tree lol It's was scary, but fun and a rush! haha So in closing, I think the seed banks and breeders love autoflowers because they are a sure income stream. I wouldn't be surprised to see photo's leave the market entirely in favor of auto' some day,😕, because Auto's keep customers coming back and back and back $$$$$$$
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RosQuare
RosQuareanswered grow question a year ago
I’m going to argue that the ability to grow under 24/0 is a huge advantage if that’s what works for you. It doesn’t mean the lights are not ´intense enough’, it means you chose lights and a schedule that work for the set up 😒 The ability to grow from seed to flower under any light schedule is an advantage that gives more options for unconventional and flexible set ups. The ability to flower without worrying about light leaks screwing you up is a huge advantage too. I can see why these wouldn’t seem like advantages to those who have dialled in their grow areas to work for photos and don’t need the flexibility of choosing their own lighting schedules but seriously you guys just seem like thieves of joy
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question a year ago
Because sheep jump on the band wagon and believe hyped up advertising!
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question a year ago
keep saying faster harvest, but it doesn't add up, lol... they still take just as long once they are in flower phase. it doesn't manifest buds faster. it still takes 8-9+ weeks for most. The difference is people attribute 'flip to flower' by preflowers or start of buds forming, and this just isn't accurate. Just as in photoperiods, it takes a week or more for preflowers to show up and 2 weeks for terminal and growth nodes to start showing some pistils. some are even slower. autoflowers are not magically faster plants. they don't pack on weight faster. you can have the exact same short cycle with photoperiods... these are not pros and cons if both have the same capability. These things are not different in autos or photos. the only difference is the trigger to flower. one you control. one you do not. the timeframe is no different beside that given normal genetic variance. although ruderalis traits are less favorable in general, but ignoring that because even if autos are inferior on average, it is a very small difference at this point. 24/0 isn't an advantage, it is a sign your light is underpowered if it doesn't cause any problems. if you like autoflowers, that's fine. grow them with a smile on your face, but don't make shit up about them. just perpetuating falsehoods and misinformation.
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RosQuare
RosQuareanswered grow question a year ago
My friend and I are growing autoflowers indoors so we can have continual harvest using only one tent while we learn to control the grow room before adding the additional expense of a separate flowering room. We grow photos outside and have no experience with indoors or with autos. The ability to have the lights on 24/0 was helpful when we were learning to maintain temps. Plus with autoflowers being ‘fussy and unforgiving to mistakes’ we thought it would be a fast way to measure our ability to hurt/help them while we figure it out 😅the game plan is that once we feel confident with autos in our set up then going back to photos should be easy sailing
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mcflow
mcflowanswered grow question a year ago
Growing autoflower plants indoors has its own set of advantages and appeals for many cultivators: Faster Harvest: Autoflowers generally have a quicker life cycle, allowing for faster harvests compared to photoperiod plants. This is appealing for growers who want to minimize the time from seed to harvest. Continuous Harvests: Due to their short life cycle, you can set up a continuous harvest cycle, starting new plants as others are finishing. This can lead to more frequent yields. Simplicity: Autoflowers eliminate the need to change light schedules for flowering. This simplicity can be attractive for growers who prefer a more straightforward approach to cultivation. Space Efficiency: For growers with limited space, the compact size of autoflowers is advantageous. You can potentially fit more plants in a given space and still achieve respectable yields. Adaptability: Autoflowers are known for their resilience and ability to thrive in diverse environments. This makes them suitable for growers with varying skill levels and different setups. Stealth Growing: The short stature of autoflowers can be advantageous for growers who need to maintain a low profile or keep their cultivation discreet. 24/0 Light Schedule: Some growers prefer running their lights continuously (24 hours a day) throughout the autoflowering plant's life cycle. This can be simpler to manage than adjusting light schedules for different stages. While photoperiod plants provide more control over the vegetative and flowering phases, autoflowers offer speed, simplicity, and adaptability. The choice often comes down to personal preferences, cultivation goals, and the specific constraints of the growing environment.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question a year ago
I have had yields on autos reach 13 ounces and potent. If your autos are short and do nothing it's how you are growing them. Autos are consider for more experienced growers anyway. The appeal of weed fast is why so many want them yet lack proper experience to grow them.
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question a year ago
they are not 'faster' than photos.. simply do a photoperiod with a 1-2week vege, and it is the timeframe, easily... and predictable vs crapshoot of autos that have varying timeframes... not even consistent. they are a novelty. a curiosity... useless in large scale due to unpredictable/uncontrollable behaviour.
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question a year ago
marketing gimmick... gives less control.. false perception that they are "easier" plants... when really they have less room for error as far as yield is concerned. whatever you do with an auto, you can do with a photoperiod by inducing flower early. I agree, the only really positive benefit from an autoflower is outdoor use. Can avoid extremely humid months or get an extra cycle in given enough sun per day (DLI, not hours). less control, less room for error... the only thing it has going for it is not worrying about uninterrupted darkness for 10+ hours... which in some situations could be important, but more so outside. It's not that hard to light-proof a room or use a tent. not to mention it's generally weaker and not as tasty weed. ruderalis genetics suck donkey balls.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question a year ago
But to be honest...i started Indoors with Automatics. Because they are doing everything what you told. Because i Had to learn so many aspects of growing. Very soon i recognized the Advantage of photoperiods. ITS Just more fun. And If you messup...they dont Care. Automatics areJust picky
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DoughHead
DoughHeadanswered grow question a year ago
I grew them due to need of flower. It was faster then photos. Also light leaks is not a concern which gave me comfort. Regarding yield. I got 24oz from 5 autos in one 4x4. 1.25g per watt exactly my first grow. The thc is just as high as most photos, but the terps aren't. Some have plenty of terps Some was lacking. They yielded me 1.5lbs in 11 weeks from seed. That's why. Quality, quick, and no worrying of light leaks. I do want to do photos. But needed a faster turnaround at the start of my growing journey. That's my story and I'm sticking to it 😃
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question a year ago
I wrote a long response but growdiaries is shit and constantly shits the bed. I agree, autos are for very specific situations. Thing is that when they were new on scene, companies marketed them as fast. Well fastest is usually 70 days. Average is 80-100. Photos can be done in 90-100 easily, with more weight and Better quality. So companies have convinced ppl they’re fast, and new growers still fall in that trap. They also are harder to grow usually because the timeline they’re on. if you have a plant count limit and need to do perpetual harvests it makes it easier, one tent on 18 hours and pop a seed every 20-30 days.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question a year ago
Could Not agree more💚✌️
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