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When should I defoliate and/or prune?

Finniegrow
Finniegrowstarted grow question 5 months ago
I'm trying to Scrog and Defoliate to improve yield and quality. When should I turn to 12/12 cycle and when to heavily defoliate? Indica strains so shouldn't grow that much height, right? Now I'm just spreadin them wider around the net since they are growing bushy/relatively short
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Plant. Too short
Techniques. ScrOG
Techniques. Defoliation
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Polyphemus
Polyphemusanswered grow question 5 months ago
What organomann said. Though, there are some reasons to do it despite the negatives he lists that are all true. Risk reduction being one. You should have a specific reason to do it. Leaves overlapping that cause standing water on leaves is a disease vector. A shit ton of congested leaves raising local RH is a disease vector, too. Standing water and excess moisture on leaves, bad! Unnngghhh!! https://youtu.be/Mawve_3NSj4?t=30 When i see a leaf controting or can easily predict it, that's another reason, also interelated to congestion above. Controrting means the leaf is putting a lot of effort into seeking light - reacting because is not getting enough. Rather have a few fully covering area without contortion. Vectors of light not hitting tops of leaves are severely attenuated, even if still causing some photosynthesis. Greater surface area of leaves lying properly is probably better. Timing helps avoid any negatives too. Be pataient and let any growth that is expected to fill in gaps is actually be big enough to do so. No reason to take it off too soon. I also remove axillary buds that I know will never be included in my canopy, but I don't clip off that node's leaves, if there is no reason to do so.
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Rheaun_Grows
Rheaun_Growsanswered grow question 5 months ago
I would keep the growth under the net trying fill it out before the stretch. You can go to 12/12 whenever you want, it will 'signal' the plant.
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Angus_MacGrower
Angus_MacGroweranswered grow question 5 months ago
In ScroG you should wait for the branches to cover the surface of your net before turning into flowering. Then, you can start cleaning leaves from the main stems and do a bigger clean + lollipoping around F2 or F3, when the stretch slow down. > Less leaves = less energy being made = less growth. More big leaves = more useless storage indoor = more waste of energy and nutrients. > Defoliation will not improve quality. It's a structural training.
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSanswered grow question 5 months ago
Some Indica’s from Barney’s Farm can stretch a lot. Technically, you switch your lights when there’s a top with 2 nodes, in each squares of the trellis. Heavy defoliation will be done in week 3 of flowering, everything under the trellis must be gone to get clean legs. Filling up the trellis requires a few weeks.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 5 months ago
Your first heavy training day will be 14 to 21 days into flowering after you changed the lights. You can thin them out till then if needed.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 5 months ago
Why defoliate un-necessarily? Remember............... Less leaves = less energy being made = less growth. Defoliation will not improve quality. Quality is all about genetcis and plant health. Less leaves = less potential health.
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