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inhale_exhalestarted grow question 6 months ago
looked for similar cases in grow questions and now think it’s a magnesium deficiency. I use biobizz Calmag 0.5-0.8 ml/L like in guide. Last week 1 ml/L. but magnesium deficiency does not go away, Question for biobizz users, how much Сalmag can be used before overdose?
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 6 months ago
Calcium is a vital nutrient, performing a large number of vital roles in plant biology. It’s a crucial component in plant cell walls and helps transport other minerals from one side of cell membranes to the other. It’s also involved in some enzyme functions. It’s what’s known as an immobile nutrient – once the plant has put it to use in one part of its structure, it can’t be relocated. That’s why we see deficiency in young leaves first – even if old leaves have more than enough, the calcium is fixed and can’t travel to where it’s needed. Without enough calcium, those membranes become weak. The cell walls can’t control their permeability, resulting in the leeching of vital nutrients and an eventual waterlogging of affected cells. Mostly we see it as yellowing leaves, especially in newer growth, and fruit that becomes soggy and sodden from too much moisture. Magnesium is just as important. It’s a key component in the construction of chlorophyll, arguably the most important of all chemicals inside a plant. Chlorophyll is the powerhouse of the plant. It’s responsible for turning oxygen and water into sugar, fueling all the plant's growth. Without it, there’s no chance of vigorous growth at all Unlike calcium, magnesium is mobile and can be redeployed, so to speak, if the plant becomes deficient. As a result, magnesium deficiencies show in older leaves first, as the plant shifts its dwindling supplies to new growth. Chlorosis is the defining trait of magnesium deficiencies. Leaves turn yellow, from the oldest to the youngest. It makes sense – after all, no magnesium, no chlorophyll. Many Calmag solutions include iron, usually as a chelate. This is because many of the conditions that lead to soils poor in calcium and magnesium can also lead to low levels of iron, so it pays to cover all bases. Iron deficiencies also cause the same sort of chlorosis as magnesium deficiencies, so it sometimes pays to apply both at once. (Chelation is a type of bonding of ions and the molecules to metal ions. It involves the formation or presence of two or more separate coordinate bonds between a polydentate (multiple bonded) ligand and a single central metal atom. These ligands are called chelants, chelators, chelating agents, or sequestering agents. They are usually organic compounds, but this is not a necessity.) Others will include nitrogen, too, presumably because plants need a fairly consistent supply of the stuff, and a deficient plant is likely to spring to life, hungry and ready to grow, once the deficiency is corrected. This is not the case for all brands, so it pays to check – there are plenty of cases where a low or nitrogen fertilizer is preferred. Calcium and magnesium work in concert within the plant, and so for many years it was assumed you had to ensure a good ratio of calcium to magnesium in order to get good growth from your plants. We now know that it’s both simpler and more complicated than that. The ratio of calcium to magnesium in the soil isn’t important, provided there’s enough of both for whatever is growing. However too much calcium can cause a drop in available magnesium. The two get along and readily bind to each other. You may well wind up with a magnesium deficiency if you go too hard with a purely calcium-based amendment. It’s why Cal-mag fertilizers are so useful – they prevent magnesium depletion while addressing both deficiencies at once. Cal-mag is best used regularly. As calcium is non-mobile, it needs to be present in the soil for use all through the growing season. You can also use Calmag to treat either magnesium deficiencies or calcium deficiencies as they appear. Both show up as chlorosis, with magnesium depleting the green from old leaves and calcium from the young Coco substrates have a few unique chemical properties that can cause problems if not treated. Chief among these is the high amount of potassium naturally found in coco. This potassium tends to swap places with calcium in nutrient solutions, resulting in too much potassium and not enough calcium in your system. Fortunately, treating with Calmag is a good way to remediate this. The magnesium has its own part to play in the complex chemistry happening at the root level, but together they can work to create a supportive growing environment for your plants. How you apply the Calmag will determine how effective it is, as well as what you’re hoping to achieve. As a preventative measure, you may never see the Calmag do its work. That’s the point – you are preventing the deficiencies from developing. If applied judiciously, it’s an invisible barrier, protecting you from crop failure and poor growth. But if used to treat a diagnosed deficiency, the impact will be felt fastest with foliar application. Magnesium deficiencies will correct quite quickly. While already damaged leaves won’t revive, the grim march of yellow will stop almost immediately. Calcium deficiency is slower to spot, as it’s tied to the development of new tissue, but once you’ve corrected the problem the next wave of leaves or blossoms should be in good health. Soil application takes longer for the plant to process, but it tends to be more enduring. It can take a few days for the minerals to work their way through a large plant, but once they do it’s a long-lasting result. You can always have too much of a good thing, and Cal-Mag is no different. At best, it’s possible to use Cal-mag to treat disorders caused by totally unrelated deficiencies, or even bacteria or fungus. While in these cases the Cal-mag itself isn’t going to cause too many problems, they certainly aren’t going to fix your problem. More critically, both calcium and magnesium can spell trouble in too high concentrations. Too much calcium in the soil can result in the uptake of too much of other minerals and not enough of others, a tricky thing to detect. Magnesium sickness is easier to spot, leaving browning on the tips of new growth.
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001100010010011110answered grow question 6 months ago
In a soilless/hydro context, you'll probably need 50-75ppm of Mg and 100+ Ca. Your mileage may vary due to different contents of your tap water compared to others. Lots of things cause interveinal chlorosis, not just Mg-deficiency. Mg deficiency would also be accomanied by spots, which i don't see. Also, an Mg-deficiency isn not visible in the leaves for 30-35+ days after the deficiency starts inside the plant -- hidden. So, if the plant is not 30+ days old, highly unlikely you see any symptoms related to Mg deficiency. Ca causes spots.. not interveinal chlorosis. These are 2 mutually exclusive elements... Ca and Mg don't even directly bond with each other, they are not the same nor should be be referenced as cal-mag. that is a product that simply contains both. They are unique nutrient molecules used in different ways inside the plant. Insufficient data to know for sure. Esoteric dosing of individual products is not apples to apples. You need to either give weighted-average percents of each nute or calculat ppms of each and add them up. Otherwise the dosing info is mostly useless to anyone not using that exact same product.. .and the ingredients may be in somewhat different ratio, but they all pull from the same optiosn of ingredients, so there's very little difference between fertilizers that add up to a well-balanced diet. Brand is meaningless when dealing with ubiquitous commodities for ingredients. e.g. there isn ot a higher quality calcium nitrate... there's just calcium nitrate, lol. Can't change the molecular makeup and still call it calcium nitrate, lol. add up your ppms.. if Mg is far below 75-80, it might be the initial symptoms of mg-deficiency... add up ppms of Ca, if it's 100+, it's probably fine. Check pH. If pH drops too low, Ca is the first thing to get locked out. people say 5.5 is best, but all that does is require a greater amount of Ca to mitigate the pH lockout, lol. 5.8-6.2 is better for any typical garden. If you have lab precision, maybe the lower portion is better but less room for error.
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 6 months ago
Throw in a dose of humic/fulvic acid this will lead to an increase in chelation, a wee squirt of silica too for vigor, make sure to add silica first then stir if you are mixing it with salt-based fert, good job she looks beautiful.
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LSchnabel
LSchnabelanswered grow question 6 months ago
It’s looking like you are experiencing a Magnesium issue. If you are using a CalMg product and do not want to exceed the label recommendation then you can always add magnesium by itself to your mix. Epsom Salt is Magnesium Sulfate and you should add 1/4” teaspoon per gallon. Make sure when you buy it, it is fragrant free and preferably food grade. Hope this helps.
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LSchnabel
LSchnabelanswered grow question 6 months ago
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 6 months ago
I would double check your runoff pH. It sounds like an absorption issue.
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 6 months ago
If calcium is ok and Mg is not can always give a side feeding of Epsolm salts MgSO₄ this is stuff most homes have if you have a bath tub. Can find it at dollar store or pharmacy. USP grade is fine. don't get ones with sents or oils added in. Do a bit of that and see how it works. I find my plants need some extra Mg with my feed as its a bit lacking in it.
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GrowerOG
GrowerOGanswered grow question 6 months ago
hello mate, i think that the problem start with the base water, if you use organic nutrient you must know how it is the Ca/Mg ratio; you must have it 3:1 or 4:1 ( Ca/Mg ) when you give the feeding. it's the same when you give the Calmag but this product it's just balanced so check the tap water if you can. Good luck and happy journey
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