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@TheBudWhisperer
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Week 8 of flower is in the books and this show is quickly coming to an end. I said last week we had about 7-10 days and I was spot on at the 10 day mark. I was only wrong about the order. The cheese is ready to chop before the rest and the gorilla cookies, cherry Bomb and lemon haze will follow in due course. The cheese is a beast and it’ll take a little time to get it all run through the bowl trimmer. At least the big one goes first. Her tallest colas have foxtailed like mar, despite the late supercrop. You can tell where the sweet spot for the light is at about 10” distance from the canopy. Any closer than that and the tails begin to show prominently. It’s a good example of just how close you can get to these fixtures with a little bit of prior experience. It’s been noted for the next run😎👍😎. The res. is on an h2o2 only flush for the remainder until the rest are ready to come down. Not a moment too soon either - the pollen chucking project has stalled out waiting for these girls to finish and now that we’ll have a little extra room, we can start running our cuts in the aerocloner🤟. Not long at all now folks. Thanks for tagging along through all this. Learned a bunch about this system and we’re back to hardware mode to make some serious improvements for the next run🤙😎. I love hardware mode😉.
Background/Repetitive Nonsense
The strain line up on this grow is look’n quite saucy 😈. We’ve got 2 FB strains this time around - Gorilla Cookies (seems we always have some GSC cross in the works). Mainly because the colours look stellar and remind me of a sugar breathe we did last year that was 🔥. The other FB is their original Cheese strain... because we already smoked all our cheese... and we really like our cheese...😉. Emerald triangle was kind enough to include a freebie of Lemon Haze. Wasn’t really big on the list but we haven’t done a haze strain to write home about yet so worth a go👍. The last is a Cherry auto from Bomb seeds that we’ve been trying to get to for months. Let’s just hope that she’s not a dud like the last bean.
The new digs for this run are courtesy MarsHydro👊. Their 2x4 single grow tent, paired with a shiny new 240w QB courtesy ViparSpectra.
These folks were kind enough to discuss a collaboration and as a result, here we are to test out the gear with an inaugural run of autos. Each week, we’ll try to expand on some of the benefits of each, as well as any limiting factors or considerations that need attention when pondering purchase.
Already I can say that both are high quality products in terms of overall craftsmanship.
MarsHydro 2x4 Grow Tent:
Excellent construction in terms of durability. Reinforced stitching on the zippers and corners ensures zero tearing. Conveniently placed screen vents and intake/exhaust ports. The ceiling exhaust port only exists on the right side. Perfect for me but not great if you’re running exhaust from the top on the left side (left side wall port makes up for this however). The aluminum frame is rigid enough to support the weight of the lights and accessories. Once you have some weight in the tent, she’s go’n nowhere and you can assemble and break it down in record time if moving or stashing the grow op.
Only limiting factors I’ve noticed is that temp. Control will be an issue for a tent. It just doesn’t have the same insulating ability as a wood cabinet or other permanent enclosed space. No worries, this is offset by a small desktop heater and keeps the environment exactly where desired. The other issue was a production problem - the ceiling vent was accidentally stitched into the corner seams on the assembly line. Again, no real issue - just pulled it out with no damage or fraying to the tent or port👍.
Website link here:
https://www.mars-hydro.com/grow-tent/buy-mars-hydro-grow-tent-24x48x70-2-x-4-cabinet-closet-grow-box-upgraded-diamond-1680d-mylar-for-sale
ViparSpectra 240w Quantum Board:
This thing is sleek and slick in terms of design. Closest comparable to it that I’ve seen would be spiderfarmers line of qbs. They feature the same top-o-the-line components and roughly similar spectrums. Where VS takes the advantage is in the convenience of the dimmer nob which is easily accessible and works great at 50% with no strobing👍. The heat sink is also larger which contributes to lower temps. That’s not a good thing in my case but beneficial for most folks.
I can already say that this will be a great fixture through all stages of growth. Where I know this light will excel will be in the veg. Stage for sure. Dimming function gives seedlings a much better chance of success with the ability to use lower lighting levels early on and the coverage area on a 240w is great. The average grower will find this panel suitable and fitting to their needs in a 2x4 grow space although I’d suggest 2 units if going any larger than that. The total output in this space equates to about 30w/sq.ft. Which is a decent amount of coverage based on power vs. Growprint. Ideal for veg. Certainly but, in flower - I tend to run closer to 50-60w/sq.ft to achieve higher yields. Again, similar fixtures have performed admirably in the past and while this wouldn’t be considered an “entry-level” fixture, I’d recommend that any grower new to the game not skimp on lighting and start with one of these. The price points are a great value for quality LED tech. These days, so there’s little reason to even consider a lesser fixture👍.
I have no detail on limiting factors for this light as yet but have heard that stock branded fixtures don’t necessarily incorporate enough red diodes. I’ve seen no issue myself but confess - I’m no lighting guru.
Website link:
https://www.viparspectra.com/collections/xs-series/products/xs-series-xs2000
***8% discount when using code: “ItBudWhisper”***
Happy to have you along for the ride if you made it this far through my opening rant!!😎🤟😎🤟😎
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@eldruida_lamota
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Cepa difícil de cultivar, hay que estar pendientes de ellas cada día.lástima algunas tienden a salir flor macho, no obstante la calidad está muy bien , pegan de miedo.
Red hot cookies x cookies gelato
Híbrido (50% indica / 50% sativa).
Producción Interior: 450/500 g/m2 .
Floración Interior: 8/9 semanas z
Thc: 25%/28% .
Cbd: bajo .
Sabor: afrutado y dulce.
Altura interior: 90cms- 140cms .
-Origen genético de red hot cookies: Tropicanna Cookies (Girl Scout Cookies x Tangie.
-Origen genético de cookies gelato:
Girl Scout Cookie X Gelato 33
Posibilidad de conseguir flor roja, porcentaje desconocido.
Disponible , tirar chat o Dm instagram.
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@Rinna
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Overal I’m very happy. The weight’s looking insane. Obviously imma update you after drying and curing. Can’t say to much at this point, apart from the fact that everything is looking very nice!
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@TS_Greens23
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All I’ve done this week was stretch her out as much as possible,,getting as much light to all the buds,,and kept her food levels topped up,,
This week I’m going to start giving her water only,,and just let those nuggs flush out the unneeded,,,,,lols ,she looks really good for her age,,,start winding her down now,,,these buds are so tight,,🙏💚💚💚
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@MG2009
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11/16/2020
She's growing, roots are nice and healthy, so time for flowering.
Switching to 11-14 and flower dose will start today. Full bucket switch to
Grow, Micro, Bloom flower week one
Raised level of water to 16 liters just touching mesh pot, she used about 1/2 her water (6liters)
And do not want her to go hungry lol
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@bypado_farm
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They look good, they are drinking good aswell, every 2 days 1 L each plant
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@potatolord111
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She's growing nice. The temperatures and sun are not good but it grows good under this cricumstances
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@HanzGrowz
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Well they definitely made progress in the flowering dept over the weekend! I came back home to find a nice amount of bud sites and pistil growth all around.
Bubba ya gotten so big it can’t fit under my lights in the tent with fan & filter, so it’s now been moved to the other tent. Kind of fucks with my auto grow I had planned, but not much I can do
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@gr3g4l
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15 dias a 12/12h. Iniciamos la semana mostrando claros simptomas de floración.
Por lo que hace a la araña roja comentar que no ví ni una en un par de foliolos o hojas que estube mirando pero si ví que habian quedado huevos o larbas pegadas en los nervios del foliolo. Esta semana nueva fumigada y esta vez cambiando de producto. Son ya varios cultivos utilizando lo mismo y es muy posible que a las arañas no les haga ni cosquillas, por lo de la inmunidad.
Una pequeña poda de los segundos nudos y para más adelante una última de bajos y chupópteros y así dejarlas ya tranquilas el resto del cultivo.
Como puede observarse esta semana han vuelto hacer una buena estirada, entiendo que al ser 9 en tan poco espacio todas miran de competir por cual recibe más luz creciendo como locas. De esta solo puedo esperar que salgan unos bonitos cohetes. A final de semana estarian en 80 ctms las más altas y 65 ctms las más peques.
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@Certifyed252
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GG is takin off...TG decided to join the party late on account of my ignorance 🤦♂️🤣...great healthy retard strength growth...starting nutes in a couple days, sure wish sm1 could help me with my soil PH lol
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@JBL007
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On the 29th, irrigation was not possible for 2 days (25% dry leaves), they probably got a shock... Electricity fell into it. We'll see what happens in the end. Currently 33 days in bloom.
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@Ferenc
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Really nice plant. Very strong smell, Well THC coated buds and very nice effects. Lovely.
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@GrownwithLED
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The plants are now growing slower in height and start to develop real flower clusters at all tops. Both Barbarian (=AK-47 x Barbara Bud) plants are bushy with lots of budding sites, but plant#2 is now 15 cm taller than plant #1, which is a little more bushy than #2. Both plants are healthy and still enjoy the normal recommended feeding schedule from Advanced Nutrients.
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@mr_smooke
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Here we are on day 28.
On day 23 i spoted Spider Mites. Next day i been spray leavs whit neem oil, for now SM are gone i hope they will not come back. She coming along nicely😁🤩🤘✌️
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The time is finally here to post the harvest. I waited till it was all done and dry before updating the dairy so will add in the dry weights next on the 2nd half of the harvest entry.
Had some ups and downs with this plant. mainly the extreme yellowing that was happening. I should have treated this faster with a flush but was super reluctant and I feel this has suffered in the end. The top best looking buds could have been larger and the lower ones could have been thicker.
There is some smells with this plant but they are not pronounced. Just smells like mild basic weed, this would be one reason not to grow it, however, the crystals on this plant have been the most I've ever grown before. When trimming them every time the scissors snipped or the brush stroked I saw some falling down onto the tray. This plant would be great for making hash. had a good little ball of finger hash at the end of it and will be giving that to my friends to smoke or make a strong edible with.
I don't plan on growing this strain out again, the lack of smells and the fact I'm only trying to grow cbd dominate plants is the main reason. If my friends really like this I have some clones so can always give them some. Speaking of clones they are doing well outside, greened up a lot and showing signs of revegging.
Took some photos of the weed hang drying on day 1 in the tent and a week later to show how much they shrink.
most of the lower growth is quite larfy but will make good edibles or hash, that will be a fun project to do and may include that in my projects diary.
That's about all I can think of if you have any questions just ask.
m0use
Disclaimers:
1. I have divided the total watts of light in half, 300w(150w) for this diary. It will accurately reflect the g/w ratio as the two plants growing in this tent are listed in two separate diaries.
2. I include any shake/trim in my gross totals as I use them to make edibles.
3. I did not follow any proper ways of listing my nutrients. Some are ml/l of total solution watered, others ml/l of total medium and some are just the total amounts I added, not as a ratio.
If you have any questions let me know!
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Cost + Time Analysis Of Growing Cannabis. m0use’s Breakdown
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Light Schedule
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Veg [Dec 18th 2021 - Mar 11th 2022]
18h on 6h off - 6am-12pm
Flower [Mar 12th 2022 - May 10th 2022]
12h on 12h off - 9am-9pm
This is extra tricky this harvest as I went through 2 different hydro rates in three different periods, plus a veg and bloom switch between them.
Mon-Fri are TOU rates, all weekends are off-peak pricing all day.
Off Peak = 7pm-7am + all weekend
Mid peak = 11am-5pm
On peak = 7am-11am + 5pm-7pm
TOU rates:
Dec 18th 2021-Jan 17th 2022
Cost of kwh with on-peak "17.0c", mid-peak "11.3c" and off-peak "8.2c".
Jan 18th 2022 - Feb 7th 2022
Cost of kwh with on-peak "8.2c", mid-peak "8.2c" and off-peak "8.2c".
Feb 8th 2022 - Current
Cost of kwh with on-peak "17.0c", mid-peak "11.3c" and off-peak "8.2c".
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Dec 18th 2021-Jan 17th 2022
Weekdays “21 days”
6am - 7am -- 1hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak
7am - 11am -- 4hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak
11am - 5pm --6hr @11.3c/kwh mid-peak
5pm - 7pm -- 2hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak
7pm - 12am -- 5hr @8.2c/Kwh off-peak
Weekends “10 days”
6am - 12am – 18hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak
6h @17.0c/kwh
6h @11.3c/kwh
6h @8.2c/kwh + [email protected]/kwh weekdays/weekends
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Jan 18th 2022 - Feb 7th 2022
Weekdays “15 days”
6am - 7am -- 1hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak
7am - 11am -- 4hr @8.2c/kwh on-peak
11am - 5pm --6hr @8.2c/kwh mid-peak
5pm - 7pm -- 2hr @8.2c/kwh on-peak
7pm - 12am -- 5hr @8.2c/Kwh off-peak
Weekends “6 days”
6am - 12am – 18hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak
18h @8.2c/kwh + [email protected]/kwh weekdays/weekends
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Feb 8th 2022 - Harvest
Veg
Feb 8th - March 11th 2022
weekdays “24 days”
6am - 7am -- 1hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak
7am - 11am -- 4hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak
11am - 5pm --6hr @11.3c/kwh mid-peak
5pm - 7pm -- 2hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak
7pm - 12am -- 5hr @8.2c/Kwh off-peak
weekends “8 days”
6am - 12am – 18hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak
6h @17.0c/kwh
6h @11.3c/kwh
6h @8.2c/kwh + [email protected]/kwh weekdays/weekends
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Flower
March 12 - May 10th 2022
weekdays “42 days”
9am - 11am -- 2hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak
11am - 5pm --6hr @11.3c/kwh mid-peak
5pm - 7pm -- 2hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak
7pm - 9am -- 2hr @8.2c/Kwh off-peak
weekends “18 days”
9am - 9pm – 18hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak
4h @17.0c/kwh
6h @811.3c/kwh
2h @8.2c/kwh + [email protected]/kwh weekdays/weekends
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Total hours in each peak period
126+144+168 = 438h @17.0c/kwh
126+144+252 = 522h @11.3c/kwh
306+378+288+300 = 1,272h @8.2c/kwh
Lights
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LED’s I use are 48w and 18w, per stick, they are arranged on an array totaling 300w.
6400k 18w*6 = 108w + 3000k 48w*4 = 192 108w+192w=300w | 300w/1000 = 0.3Kw
* note I am using 150w as stated in my disclaimers to account for the missing plant in a separate diary.*
Using the previous c/kwh numbers above I can find out the total cost of the lamps in the 3 peak periods. I converted the cents into dollar amounts beforehand to avoid dividing by 100. 8.2c/h = 0.082$/h
438h * 0.17c/kwh = $74.46kw * 0.15kw = $11.17 on peak
522h * 0.113c/kwh = $58.99kw *0.15kw = $8.85 mid peak
1,272h * 0.082c/kwh = $104.30kw *0.15kw = $15.65 off peak
The "h" hours and "kw" kilowatts cancel out and we are left with a value of $ dollars per peak period, add all the peak periods up and you get your total cost of running the lights in dollars.
$11.17 + $8.85 + $15.65 = $35.67 for the grow light only.
My light grew for 20 weeks and 4 days, or 144 days. almost 21 weeks total.
$35.67 / 144d = 0.2477$/d average of about 25c a day in electricity
337.2kw for the entire grow.
Using the regular calculation of grams harvested divided by watts used is not accurate to me, it does not account for all the time the lamps are on, the length of grow to the over all cost. The calculation that makes sense to me is this, harvested dry weight of usable cannabis buds/trim/keif/whatever in grams divided by total kw used. Could also combine it with grams per total single use costs “anything you used only for this grow and wont reuse in the next, or fractions of multi use items like fertilizers if they ½ full” and see how much you’re investing per gram.
"kw" ÷ "g" = kw/g
"$" ÷ "g" = $/g
I have harvested 5.34oz or 151.6g on 337.2kw.
337.2kw ÷151.6g = 2.22 kw/g of usable cannabis. This is not an ideal ratio for me and looks like a lot of energy waste happened from the extended veg period.
$35.67 ÷ 151.6g = 0.24c/g
It cost 24c/g when comparing total electricity cost to gross yield, almost identical to the comparison of total electrical cost to the number of days in the grow 25c/day.
Neat!
legend,
kwh = kilowatt per hour
kw = kilowatt
w = watt
h = hour
c = cents
$ = dollars
d = day
LED= Light Emitting Diode
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Harvested on day 70 (start of week 10)
Only 9.2 grams of bud. Fairly short dry time of 8 days. I dropped a nug on the carpet and thought (f*ck there goes half my harvest) 😅
All jokes aside this is a perfect plant for growers trying to be discreet. I didn't even LST or anything and it only grew to 14 inches tall. You will need a carbon filter as it is a loud strain.
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@DaddyPrime
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8/2 she's showing a few pistils. I feel like I should lollipop her cuz shes so top heavy already as is, why not put more growth focused there as well
