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This is the third and fourth seed germinated from a 5 pack of Milk and Qookies by Night Owl.
A few notes about this diary:
1. I add up my nutrient doses throughout the week and add those to the amounts. Includes water changes when applicable.
2. I use values from the last day of the week values for weekly measurements. light distance, ppm, ph, etc.
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GERMINATION
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Day 1
Hour 0 (March 15 // 3:00pm)
Germinated at 3:00pm in DVD case and paper towel.
Wrapped in t-shirt and placed in dome with heat mat set to 28c
Day 2
N/A
Day 3
Hour 56 (Mar 17 // 11:00pm)
Transplanted both seedlings into rapid rooter in dome.
Set heat mat to 28c
Misted with tap water at ph 6 and 1ml Orca beneficial bacteria.
8 hour on t5 til then 4 hours of darkness
Day 4
Hour 78 (Mar 18 // 11:00am)
RH: 67%
Temp: 28c (heat mat)
Re misted Dome
Lights just came on after 4 hr darkness.
MQ #3 Popped out of top of rapid rooter and cotyledons opening.
MQ #4 Has not popped up yet.
Hour 90 (Mar 18 // 11:00pm)
Both popped up out of rapid rooter now.
Day 5
March 19 // 5:00pm
Both plants have popped up out of Rapid Rooter
Roots poking out of rooter for MQ #4
Transferred to RDWC.
The first set of leaves just popping
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March 20 (Day 6)
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Tent: 80F
RH: 75%
Water temp 66F
RDWC Water Setup:
Starting Values
PH: 6.4
PPM: 30
Temp: 57F
100% RO
Filled about 14.5 Gal
Mixed in two liters of water:
25ml SensiGrow A
25ml Sensi Grow B
Mixed in two liters of water:
12ml of Orca
Final Total Values:
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PPM: 150
PH 6.0
Temp: 61F
No PH Up/Down Added - Let PH Perfect do its thing.
Added 8ml Z9 Part 1
Added 8ml Z9 Part 2
Total: About 60 Liters (Need a water meter to better dose)
Top fed 125ml outer pebbles around rooter - each plant.
T5 light added to each plant - 6” from top of seedlings.
Ph went from 6.0 to 6.1 on its own by end of day.
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March 21 (Day 7)
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Tent 80f
Rh: 75%
Water temp 66f
PPM: 130/180
PH: 6.3 / 6.1
PH went to 6.3 on its own overnight.
Added 5ml a+b
Added 8ml orca
After nutrients, Ppm went to 180
After nutrients, PH dropped to 6.1
Top fed 125ml outer pebbles around rooter - each plant.
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March 22 (Day 8)
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Tent 79f
Rh: 68%
Water temp 70f
PH 6.2
PPM 170
Top fed 125ml outer pebbles around rooter - each plant.
PH climbed from 6.1 to 6.2.
PPm dropped from 180 to 170.
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March 23 (Day 9)
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Tent 79f
Rh: 68%
Water temp 68f
PH: 6.1
PPM 170
LUX 6000
Recalibrate AC Infinity to inkbird and hygrometer
Slight Nutrient residue on water level line.
Add 8ml Orca
Roots now visibly working their way down to water - roots exposed now in riser cavity.
Second set of true leaves starting.
Seed casing is still stuck on one leaf on #3
Dialed down air pumps to ensure rooter isnt getting too wet.
Top fed 125ml outer pebbles around rooter - each plant.
Add 8ml Z9 Part 1
Add 8ml Z9 Part 2
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Mar 24 (Day 10)
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Tent 82f
Rh: 72%
Water temp 67f
PH: 6.2
PPM 170
LUX 7200
Set heater to 84f. Ambient hits 82f
Multiple roots coming down in net pot now.
Added towel wick method to utilize drip bucket for fogger.
Bumped led light up to 7200 lux
With t5 is showing 18k lux
Leaf temp 84f
Z9 seems to have cleaned up the nutrient on water line.
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March 25 (Day 11)
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Tent 80f
Rh: 72%
Water temp 70f
PH: 6.2
PPM 180
LUX 7200
Leaf temp 85f
Woke up and AC had filled up with water and turned off - water temp was 78f - just glad roots weren't in water yet.
Re-activated AC Unit - with auto drain.
Recalibrated
Tossed frozen 2-liter bottle in res and it cooled down to 70f within an hour.
Added 10ml of Orca.
Added 10ml of Z9 pt 1 and pt 2
Need the new AC Infinity controller for night/day temps - the lights off is important to decrease water temp.
Fogger needing to be filled daily if not more.
MQ #3 - has two main roots weaving down through outer net pot.
MQ #4 has 5 roots coming down in net pot cavity.
Checked Rapid Rooter and its spongy and hydrated on top.
Top fed each plant 125ml around outer pebbles.
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March 26 (Day 12)
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MQ #3 roots in water - One troot - weaved in and out of basket. Def looking taller and stronger than #4
MQ #4 many roots coming down center cavity of net pot - almost in water.
Water Change! 2:30pm
Not sure if Advanced nutrients feed chart for hydroponics constitutes week 1 as roots in the water but we’ll just feel it out.
The waterfall feed line screen coming out of res was pretty gunky. Removed for now for better flow.
Refill - 30ppm starting w/ 6.2 ph
Added 60ml Sensigrow A = 320ppm
Added 60 SensiGrow B - brought ppm up to 390ppm.
Added 12ml of Orca
Drained water to just above bulkhead so I have about a 2” gap now under basket.
Cautious of burn on the young girls, I added a little RO water to dillute - brought down to 350ppm which is about double what last week was.
Added 3ml of Orca additional after water level adjustment.
Added 8ML of Z9 pt 1 and pt 2
Final values:
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PPM: 350ppm
Water Temp 66F
PH: 5.9
*** I set the weekly grow values in the diary to the values at end of week.
Summary:
Week two went great in terms of growth. No stalling, once the roots were in the water, they doubled in size every day. Spent the week dialing up LED light each day and boosting nutrients accordingly. Didn't move net pots, just a peek in the bucket lid twice this week. All roots are white and healthy. MQ3 is shooting roots out of sides of net pot whereas MQ4 hasn't gotten to that point yet but both are doing great above and below the root zone. The reservoir smells healthy. Finished the week off with a 500PPM and these girls want more! Next week I'll make decisions on LST and topping. If they take well to the top, I may even try and main-line it if time is on her side before the stretch starts.
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March 27 (Day 13)
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Tent: 80-83F (Day) / 71-73F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 6.0
PPM: 310 / 390
LUX: 10K (LED) + 7K (T5) = 17K
Leaf Temp: 84F (Day)
- Both plants have roots in water now. - 1” below netpot.
- Strong fishy smell in tent - nutrients.
- PPM dropped to 310 overnight so they were hungry.
- Added 10ml SensiGrow A/B to bring PPM to 390
- Raised T5s to 8” on both plants.
- Upped LED light to 10k LUX - At 29”
- PH climbed to 6.0 overnight - ph stayed at 6.0 after nutrient top off
- Added visors for netpot for blocking light leak in net pot using panels made from black bristol board.
- I tried a warmer temp for better VPD with LED lighting, but I don't think I can sustain the ambient temps properly without a water chiller.
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March 28 (Day 14)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-70F
PH: 6.1
PPM: 360 / 390
LUX: 10K (LED) + 7K (T5) = 17K
Leaf Temp: 81F (Day)
- PH bumped up to 6.1 overnight.
- PPM dropped to 360 overnight but i moved the EC probe and it eded up at 390 again.
- Nutrient smell is minimized now.
- Added 10ml of Orca
- Added 8ml of Z9 pt 1 and pt 2.
- PPM stayed around 390 all day.
- Bumped up led light to 12k LUX - total lux at plant is 17k with T5.
- Drained water to a couple of inches below netpot - water level sitting just at top of bulkhead nut.
- Fishbone air-roots starting.
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March 29 (Day 15)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-70F
PH: 6.2
PPM: 360
LUX 12K (LED) + 7K (T5) = 19K
Leaf temp: 80F (Day)
- Nutrient smell is minimized and tent is back to smelling normal.
- PH bumped up to 6.2 overnight.
- PPM dropped to 360
- Water back to 66f after lights out period.
- Seems like they’ve doubled in size yesterday.
- Dialed down air pump for the stones under net pots a bit - I continue to worry about the rapid rooter being too wet - really considering moving to a neoprene collar system.
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March 30 (Day 16)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-70F
PH: 6.3
PPM: 380
LUX: 15K (LED) + 7K (T5) = 22K
Leaf temp: 80F (Day)
- PPM back up to 380 overnight.
- PH went up to 6.3
- Bumped up LED light to 15k LUX - half way on dimmer dial now. 30” distance. Total lux at plant is 20k with T5.
- Plants are 5” wide now. Inner nodes starting up.
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March 31 (Day 17)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-71F
PH: 6.4 / 6.2
PPM: 380 / 460
LUX: 18K (LED) + 7K (T5) = 25K
Leaf Temp: 79F (Day)
- Plants doubled in size again: MQ#3 up to 7” wide now.
- PH went to 6.4 overnight.
- PPM sitting at 180 in morning.
- Added 15ml of SensiGrow A & B
- Added 10ml of Orca
- Added 8ml of Z9
- Bumped LED light to 18k LUX
- Added 20ml of B52
- Checked roots for first time in a week by peeking in bucket, not disturbing - nice and white! MQ3 is starting to shoot out of sides of net pot.
- Res smells healthy.
- Plants are about 7” wide now.
- Fourth node starting.
Final Values:
PH: 6.2
PPM: 460
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April 1 (Day 18)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-71F
PH: 6.4
PPM: 450 / 460
LUX 21K (LED) + 7K (T5) = 28K
Leaf Temp: 79F
- PH was back at at 6.4 in morning. Since I’m using ph perfect, I’ll let it ride until next water change and just accept its a healthy uptake scenario.
- PPM dropped from 460 to 450 by morning.
- PPM back up to 460 at night
- Turned up LED to 21k LUX
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April 2 (Day 19)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 6.5 / 6.6
PPM: 450 / 500
- PH went to 6.5 in morning then 6.6 by late in day after small nutrient boost. Still going to let it ride until water change with ph perfect.
- Added 5ml of of SensiGrow A and B
- PPM went from 450 to 500 after added nutrients.
- Added 10ml of Orca
- Water change tomorrow - was busy today so I added the Orca just as a safe measure with the PH consistently climbing, which I'm feeling is just plants feeding.
Summary:
Overall growth ramped up this week. Plants are healthy, the system is healthy/. I took a peek at roots from the beginning of the week and end of the week and the difference is stark.
MQ3
This week I took the opportunity to have some fun. I topped MQ3 plant and it took it like a champ. . It was growing nodes every 36 hours before and after the top. A bit of leaf tucking was needed for the new growth to get some light but I may top again or maybe mainline if she is ready for it by day 22. If not, I probably wouldn't consider it because she will be throwing her first pistils around day 30.
MQ4
Working with stationary square buckets is a bit challenging. Added an LST anchor, and added the first tie on the top. The bottom anchor came loose but I didn't notice and now the stalk is growing at 45-degree angle. No worries, I'll just work with it, but the side shoots are already shooting for the sky, so I'll be doing lots of training this week on this one. Other than a small deficiency on MQ4 (possible ph swing from water change or calmag issue) was fixed very quickly and didn't slow them down at all. Overall, great week!
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April 3 (Day 20)
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Recalibrated Bluelab Guardian PH probe.
Water change!
Added 35L RO to flush for 1 hour then dumped elbow to res and drained and filled with about 50L.
Added 75ml a+b sensigrow
Added 12ml orca
Added 8ml z9
*No B52 - just used small dose for toughening the main stalk before LST starts.
Total values:
Ppm 530
Ph 5.8
Water temp 64F
About 54L after mixing and adding nutrients.
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April 4 (Day 21)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 67% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 6.1
PPM: 530 / 600
Leaf Temp: 80f
Ph went to 6.0 overnight
Ppm didn't budge.
Turned up led light to 24k lux.
Added a second LST tie-down point to the top of mq4. She took well to the first one.
Measured led from tallest plant mq3. Was 33inches, set to 31.
Adjusted distance to t5 from the plant. Reset to 8inches after new growth.
Plants are about 4 inches tall from the visor covering the net pot.
5th node popping now - (4th true node after the cotyledons and single set of leaves)
Topped MQ3 above node 3 ( if you count the first set of single leaves after cotyledons with internode growth as a node which I do) - yup, I’m keeping it fun.
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April 5 (Day 22)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 67% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 6.1
PPM: 530 / 600
Leaf Temp: 80f
PPM bouncing between 520 and 530.
PH rose to 6.1 overnight.
Added 15ml ab today for total of 600ppm
Ph stayed at 6.1 after nutrient boost.
Added 10ml of Orca
Added 10ml of z9
Turned led light up from 27k to 28k. Maxed now.
Dropped led light from 32 to 30 inches.
Mounted a 6" fan on the wall of the tent for better airflow between light and canopy now that I’ll begin to drop the light.
Tightened LST top point on mq4
Defoliated mq3 under node two; Trimmed cotyledons and first node (single leaves).
Peeked at mq3 roots, nice and white with a little nute stain
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April 6 (Day 23)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 67% (Day) / 60% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 6.1
PPM: 600 / 590
Leaf Temp: 80f
PPM dropped to 590 overnight.
Dropped LED light from 30” to 28” 18-24 is recommended so now that it's 100%, it gets dropped 1-2 inches at a time until they tell me they have had enough.
Removed first tie-down on MQ4. I want the top to grow a bit more and develop the next node before I tie it back down.
Loosened the second tie on MQ4 so I’d get a bit more height from the bucket.
Nothing else. Let them grow.
PPM dropped to 580.
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So I take a peek later in day and as I’m zipping up the tent, I notice some minor spotting on mq4 bottom leaf. Bronze and tan - middle of the leaf. One leaf on mq4 is curling upwards but could be due to dropping the light 2 inches, but it's at 28” so I don’t think so.
It is too early to diagnose but I want to catch it early, I don’t want it to affect the topped mq3 and slow it down, so I want to be on top of it.
I haven’t given any calmag yet because SensiGrow coco A+B supposedly has added calmag, but I am using RO water.
I gave a light dose 15ml of calmag - put ppm at 640 ppm - I didn’t want to push it too hard in case it was just pushing notes too far.
If the issue continues when I check tomorrow afternoon, I’ll drain the system a bit and reduce the ppm back to 550ppm
If that doesn’t help, then I’ll go for the potassium route.
If thought it could be ph fluctuation from 6.7 to 5.8 on the water change, but that was 3 days ago and just showed up this afternoon.
The topped MQ3 is growing, the branches at node three were pretty closed up this morning. Throughout the day, they’ve opened and the next node is showing now.
To end the day, I forgot to kick the AC back on because I was interrupted and the water temp had gotten to 74f.
Gave a double dose 20ml of Orca beneficials since I haven’t done that since I started up the system (but just gave normal yesterday) - should snap the system in check.
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April 7 (Day 24)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 74% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 6.1
PPM: 650 / 780
Leaf Temp: 80f
They looked great all day. No more spotting.
Defoliated MQ3 for last time for now. The second node is totally gone now.
Dropped LED to 26” from top of plant.
Began LSTing the topped node branches. The next node that comes out will be topped. Day 19 today, plenty of time right?
No clawing happened until I checked at about 11pm.
I feel that they are hungry if that calmag may have fixed part of the issue last night (or it was ph swing)
Added 20ml of a/b
Added 10ml calmag
Added 8ml of Z9 part 1 and part 2.
After nutrients added, PPM went from 650 Total ppm 780
Humidity was very high during lights out due to transpiring and summer-like temps outside. RH was hitting Mid 70’s with lights and humidifier off because the humidity controller was set lower than the plants were transpiring and never met the value. I could bump up the heater but I need that cool-down period for the water temps to reset to 66f. It's time to switch to active intake. Will install it this weekend.
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April 8 (Day 25)
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Tent: 77-79F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 54% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-70F
PH: 6.1
PPM: 780 / 750
Leaf Temp: 78F
Let them grow all day.
Adjusted programming in AC Infinity T8 controller to lower RH at night.
Adjusted the LST on MQ3.
Dropped LED light to 24” from top of plants.
A bit of clawing late in the day on a few leaves, both plants. Minor.
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April 9 (Day 26)
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Tent: 77-79F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-71F
PH: 6.1/6.0
PPM: 780 / 780
Leaf Temp: 78f
Plants looked healthy all day!
Dropped LED light to 23” from top of plants.
MQ3: Second nodes on the main top are out and the third is popping, just being patient for a bit more one of the stems on node 2 to grow so I don’t have any splitting issues at the joint later on. Will probably top tomorrow night.
MQ4: Tightened top LST tie-down on MQ4. Loosened the bottom LST - anchor did not hold and now the base stalk is growing at a 45 angle so I’m going to keep the top tied down for now because the side shoots are getting higher than the top now. Plants are in one side of the bucket so I guess I’m going to try to train it over the backside of the bucket until the top hist end of the bucket then let it shoot for the sky. Training it from here on could be fun and different from a typical circle LST star pattern. Worry a bit about structural integrity later on.
PPMs stayed around 780 with slight fluctuations so I’ll assume they are drinking water and nutes at a similar rate.
PH dropped to 6.0 late in the day.
Heater set to 79f (Day) / 75f (night)
AC T8 Exhaust fan set to 3 w/ negative pressure for night exhaust to lower RH around 50% due to transpiration. Set to exhaust at 70% / 79F during the day since the heater fluctuates ambient from 75f-80f, it pulls fresh air every few minutes.
Have some upgrades to do this weekend:
(1) Exhaust fan whistling at high RPMs (2) mount active intake fan (3) water change w/ silicate, (3) top MQ3, (4) install up top off bucket for res now that they are drinking more, (5) Add 3M command clips and LST both plants I’m hoping to mount them to the lid so the plants can be movable for next weeks system scrub before they go into flowering but may have to redesign my net pot visor into the circle to make that work.
Weekly Summary:
Everything was going great at start of week. Just after I topped MQ3 for second time on day 22, a sequence of events happened. Later in the day after topping MQ3, I rushed through a water change due to time constraints and I didn't notice the PH of the RO was abnormally high until I was flushing system.
Then the next day came, and I split the main stalk on MQ3 tighten tie downs; gave it some first aid.
Then the next day the signs of PH fluctuations from water change revealed on leaves, suspected nutrient lockout due to pushing ppms and water staying same level. To add to the situation, ph was dropping, not rising like previous weeks. MQ3 was more affected than MQ4. I corrected quickly by reducing ppms and didn't worry about the ph dropping from 5.8 to 5.2 because I'm using PH perfect and allegedly it has a safety net built in for ph range from 4 to 8 to allow plants to uptake as if it were 5.6.
Plants recovered and thrived the rest of the week. Lots of time spent on LST on MQ4. MQ4 showed pistils early in week, MQ3 hasn't shown any signs of preflower yet, thankfully.
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April 10 (Day 27)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 54% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 6.1/6.0
PPM: 780 / 900
Leaf Temp: 80f
Started the morning by topping MQ3 for the last time. Cut above the first node on each branch at the 3rd node.
Evening: Water change!
Flushed with RO for 30 min. Was in a rush due to other commitments. RO PH was over 8.0 so I went ahead and refilled and dosed with nutrients - which is weird it was so high.
* Will mix Silicate for next water change - didn't have time.
125ml a+b
20ml orca
20ml calmag
10ml z9
= 900ppm
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April 11 (Day 28)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 54% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-71F
PH: 5.7/5.6
PPM: 900/900
Leaf Temp: 80f
LST on MQ3 for half of new bud sites. Will wait for others to grow out to train them.
Heavy LST on MQ4.
Thought I’d dig the 3m command clips on the buckets, but they come loose easy. I was hoping to avoid bolts in lids but I think i’m going to go that route next time - stainless eyehooks.
MQ3 recovered quickly - already sprouting fresh growth at the four budsites.
Stalks are getting thick now.
Leaves on both plants got wrinkly and leather-like with minor spotting on lower, older leaves. I was in a hurry yesterday and didn't notice the 30 minute pure RO flush was a ph of 8.0 but last time it was a 6.7. If I do nothing and they recover on their own, I’ll expect it was the ph on the RO flush.
I’m going to change the process for my water changes so they don’t get shocked.
Raised light from 23” to 24” just in case because it’s the only change I've made to the environment in recent days.
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April 12 (Day 29)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 54% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-71F
PH: 5.6/5.6
PPM: 910/910
Leaf Temp: 79f
Added LST to MQ3 for last two bud sites.
Adjusted some LST on MQ4
When adjusting LST on MQ4, i’m spotting the first pistil on MQ4. Almost a week earlier than my last MQ. She’ll be stretching soon.
No Pistils seen on MQ3 (thankful).
Added 10ml of Orca
Added 10ml of Z9 pt 1 and pt2
Add A+B 10ml
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April 13 (Day 30)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 68% (Day) / 54% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 5.6/5.6
PPM: 910/590
Leaf Temp: 80f
So great day until I adjusted the LST on MQ3 and the main stalk split at the base node. I didn't think I put too much pressure, but apparently, I did.
Stupid 3m command clips came loose again. #M command clips suck for buckets, don't use them ever again.
Spread some honey on the wound. Patched it up with tape, and then used rubber bands to keep the stalk closed to heal.
I’ve split stalks before, so I know it’ll bounce back. I just didn't need any more stress on her.
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April 14 (Day 31)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 69% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.6/5.5
PPM: 590/580
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH is down to 5.4 now. Last change it was consistency climbing. Probably roots zone driving it down now.
Voted for a water change to reduce the PPM. I pushed them too hard thinking they were eating and drinking at same rate.
This time, I did not flush with RO water, just mixed the nutrients in flexitank and pumped into system.
60ml of silica - mixed very well - let waterfall run in flexitank for about an hour.
110ml A+B
20ml of Orca
10ml of Z9
20ml of calmag
Mixed all by hand very well with wooden spoon and a waterfall for several hours in the flexitank, stirring several times.
Final Values:
PH: 5.8
PPM: 500
Once in the system, PH went to 5.7 within a few hours, and PPM went to 590 from leftover nutrient residue.
Planning on doing a pre-flower system scrub and flush soon. Just a bit of buildup on airstones and bottom of buckets but not too bad.
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April 15 (Day 32)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 69% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.5/5.4
PPM: 580/570
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH dropped to 5.4.
PPM dropped from 580 to 570.
LST and Defol on MQ4
PH dropping again. Down to 5.6 now and 5.5 in later part of the day.
Lifted pots for the first time to have a better look at roots.
Roots have exploded in the last two days but I’ve got some dark staining on the roots. I suspect nutrient stain.
Roots smell like fresh greens. Crispy too.
MQ3 is still a little stressed but it is growing and leaves are all perked up like they are on steroids late in the day.
MQ4 is looking good and healthy. LST and Def 1-2 times a day.
Will watch the PH.
Added 20ml of Orca
Added 12ml of Z9 Part 1 + Part 2
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April 16 (Day 33)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 69% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.4/5.3
PPM: 570/560
Leaf Temp: 79f
PH dropped to 5.3
PPM dropped from 570 to 560.
LST and defoliation on MQ4
Otherwise, let them grow.
Added some rubberband tethers to MQ3 for a gentle approach. Only tied down one side for now. Need to be gentle while it heals but i need the structure in place before she stretches.
It was a tough week for them, totally my fault.
They are definitely showing they are back on track and they recovered quickly.
Weekly Summary: Great recovery, great growth, and plants starting their stretch. Plants are drinking, eating, and transpiring. Plants seem to like the 5.4 ph range. It may seem low, but again, the PH perfect tech used by Advanced is a mere safety net allowing the plant to uptake between ph 4 to 8 as if it were a ph of 5.6. Since MQ3 didnt kick its first pistil until mid week, I'll set next week as flowering.
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April 17 (Day 34)
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Tent: 77-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 69% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.3/5.2
PPM: 560/540
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH dropped to 5.2.
PPM dropped from 560 to 540 throughout day.
Adjusted tethers on MQ3 topped plant.
Removed the rubberband support on split stalk on MQ3
Large knuckles forming on MQ3
Added 10ml of Orca beneficials in 500ml RO.
Added 10ml of Z9 in 500ML RO.
Peeked at roots due to ph drop. Roots look great.
I’ve seen a few people mention waterfall needing to be diverted because it soaks the air roots. I noticed the air roots climbing outside of net pot basket, so I added a screens to the waterfall bulkhead to disrupt the waterfall until the 3/4” NTP tee fittings I ordered arrive at local store.
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April 18 (Day 35)
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Tent: 77-80F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 67% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.2/5.2
PPM: 540/500
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH steady at 5.2
PPM dropped from 530 to 500.
Replenished water level with 100% RO water
Both plants are indeed drinking and eating.
Did some light defoliation to both plants.
I’m going to say the issue was likely nitrogen toxicity from pushing the ppms too hard along with my ph fluctuation on the water change.
Plants are Back on track.
MQ4 has a bunch of pre-flower pistils. I keep LSTING and defoliating and come back 8 hours later and its all filled in again. I couldnt imagine LSTing a bunch of plants.
MQ3 popped its first pistil today.
Added tethers to other side of MQ3.
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April 19 (Day 36)
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Tent: 76-79F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 65% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.2/5.3
PPM: 500/480
Leaf Temp: 78f
PPM dropped to 470.
Stellar growth going on with both plants.
MQ3 training is a bit challenging but she’s almost healed from the split stalk, I haven’t seen but maybe one or two days on slow growth last week.
A bit concerned about next water change. the ph will be riding 5.8 when changed due to ph perfect. Could cause ph issue again. May flush at 5.6 for a few hours.
Light defoliation.
Added 15ml A+B
Added 8ml Z9
Added 20ml orca
LED light is about 20” from top of plants.
PPM brought back up to 540
PH went to 5.3 near end of day.
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April 20 (Day 37)
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Tent: 76-79F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 64% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.3/5.4
PPM: 500/480
Leaf Temp: 78f
Its looking like this might be day one of stretch!
Both plants are noticeably growing in every direction.
Topped off water level with 4L of RO water.
Otherwise, I let them grow today. This is their day.
PH went up to 5.4 today, with the help of the top off I suspect.
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April 21 (Day 38)
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Tent: 75-79F (Day) / 68-71F (Night)
Rh: 62% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.4/5.7
PPM: 480/430
Leaf Temp: 78f
Morning: Added 10ml of Orca - not sure if I’ll have time to do water change.
Definitely stretching - both plants noticeably taller today.
Found time for water change if i do it today, wont have much spare time on weekend.
I thought I was going to have to scrub the system but it looks pretty clean as is. Even cleaner than a few days ago.
May just do a quick clean next water change, maybe switch out the air stones before I can’t get to them any longer.
Roots are much larger, mostly white, smell like fresh spring greens. Root colour shifts to off white above the waterline.
Still have that dark brown stain in roots n MQ3 but its not growing in size. I think its just poorly distributed nutrients. If I end up scrubbing system I’ll try and flush that spot out.
I probably didn’t have to change the water after seeing the system emptied.
Nutrient Solution:
100ml rhino skin silca - mixed well and let run via waterfall in flexitank for 1 hour. Mixed well again by hand.
130ml Sensi A + B Grow
10ml b52
15ml calmag
Added 15ml Orca
Added 10ml Z9 Pt 1 + Pt 2
Final system values:
PPM: 670
PH: 5.7
Water Temp: 67f
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April 22 (Day 39)
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Tent: 75-79F (Day) / 68-71F (Night)
Rh: 62% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.7/5.4
PPM: 670/650
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH dropped to 5.4
First time they were transpiring at 68% while humidifier was set to 62% during daylight hours - will try and find a balance between dehumidifier and heater for temp. Contemplating add CMH for better foot print . At this point, If i’m going to add heat, it might as well be light.
Removed rubber bands on MQ3 and replaced with soft ties.
Still hate 3m command clips on these buckets.
Some light defoliation on MQ4 to let some more bud sites get some light.
Tightened down top of MQ4 so its lower than canopy while they stretch.
Raised light a couple of inches to accommodate growth.; 20” from canopy now.
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April 23 (Day 40)
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Tent: 75-79F (Day) / 68-71F (Night)
Rh: 62% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-71F
PH: 5.4/5.4
PPM: 650/630
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH held at 5.4 all day.
PPM dropped from 650 to 630.
Let them grow and stretch - checked for any moisture on leaves that are laying on each other.
Added 15ml of Orca in 500ml of RO water - mid afternoon.
Summary: Overall a great week six. The smell is starting and they are growing vigorously. Noticeable water levels dropping daily; I'm having to top off the res once or twice a day. PPM kept going down daily, I'd top up and it'd go down again signaling they want more. The goal was to get it steady - somewhere in 800 range by the week's end. Got the scrog net up and started weaving - I should have done last week. Switched out the heater for a spare dehumidifier and added a CMH light for supplemental heat and light - temp is way more stable and swings less. Struggled all week to find available time to defoliate and late scrog - one might think I was neglecting them. Ended up finding time on the last day of the week for a major defoliation session on both plants and even did a bit of super cropping to even out the canopy a little. Added some tees to the inside of the buckets for the waterfall. MQ3 is still stretching and MQ4 has stopped stretching. Will Lolipop the bud sites that didn't make the canopy on MQ4 in the coming days.
After some research on Orca beneficial bacteria (looking at King Crab product), I read on their website I should: 1) Inoculate well before I add phosphorus (flowering nutrients) to minimize root issues in flower. 2) Apply directly to roots if possible. I've been dumping in the reservoir so I've changed my method: dump 1 liter of Orca beneficial solution into each plant site directly and spray about 200ml directly on roots with a spray bottle where I can reach without disturbing plants, likely twice a week.
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April 24 (Day 41)
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Tent: 75-79F (Day) / 68-71F (Night)
Rh: 62% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 5.4/5.4
PPM: 630/590
Leaf Temp: 78f
Added 10ml of Z9 (Pt 1 and Pt 2) with 1L of RO water.
Calibrated humidity values for AC Infinity, inkbird and hygrometer.
15ml sensi grow a+b
Defoliated mq4 for 30 minutes….again.
Light defol on mq3.
Added scrog net above canopy - need to start weaving. - should have added this earlier.
Switched exhaust fan from t8 to t6 to eliminate reducer. Exhaust still whistles
Will use t8 fan for 4x8 tent.
Signs of plants eating and drinking; ppm dropped to 590
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April 25 (Day 42)
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Tent: 79-81F (Day) / 68-70F (Night)
Rh: 64% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 65F-69F
PH: 5.4/5.4
PPM: 570/680
Leaf Temp: 80f
Added 2L of plain ro water top off in morning.
Ppm dropped to 570 in evening.
Added AC Infinity S6 intake fan.
Added CMH 315 light to tent off to side for heat, will move into place over canopy in a couple of days.
Added 15ml orca in 1L RO water
Added 20ml of sensi grow a+b in 1L of ro water.
Brought ppm back up to 680.
CMH boosted heat - averaging 81f
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April 26 (Day 43)
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Tent: 79-81F (Day) / 68-71F (Night)
Rh: 62% (Day) / 52% (Night)
Water Temp: 65F-70F
PH: 5.4/5.4
PPM: 680/620/700
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH steady 5.4
More defol to MQ4.
Did some weaving on scrog for both plants.
Moved humidifier to front of tent because it was too close to leaves hanging over bucket on daily wilt before lights out on MQ4 - potentially causing PM.
Temps outdoors are warming and I’m done needing heater with the CMH in tent. Remove infrared heater from tent.
Fan that was sitting on infrared heater needs to be mounted in a better location now that heater is removed.
Added dehumidifier to inkbird humidity controller to keep humidity under 70% from transpiration and will use the heat it produces for lights off.
Temperature is so much more stable with CMH sitting at 81F almost all of the time, water temps under 70 by end of day. With LED only, i’m getting temperature swings.
Moved CMH closer horizontally add additional supplemental coverage - easing it in so they don’t stress.
Undecided if i want to tilt for dual spectrum both plants or just LED on one and CHM on the other.
PPMs dropped to 620 throughout day.
Mixed 20ml of Sensi Grow A+B in 2L water. Poured 2/3 in res - PPM settled to 700.
Covered leftover nutrient mix - will stir and pour the rest into the reservoir in morning.
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April 27 (Day 44)
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Tent: 79-81F (Day) / 69-71F (Night)
Rh: 62% (Day) / 52% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 5.4/5.4
PPM: 700/680/720/680
Leaf Temp: 78f
Dehumidifer worked perfect keeping tent warm during lights off with cold morning temps. 71F / 52% RH steady during lights off and 77f / 62% RH with lights on - stable - no fluctuations.
PPM dropped from 700 to 680.
Poured rest of nutrient mix in, bringing PPM to 720
Not much time today but managed to do a few minutes of weaving in scrog for both plants. Of course maintaining MQ3 is way easier and more time efficient being topped than than MQ4 LST. MQ4 was lagging behind compared MQ3 growth, or I would've topped it as well.
Added 15ml of orca in 500L water
Added 10ML of Z9 pt 1 and pt 2
Tee fittings with NTP threads delivered. Removed screens I added last week to waterfall bulkheads on inside of buckets and replaced with tee fittings for better DO.
End of day, PPM was back down to 640
Add mix of veg and bloom nutes tomorrow.
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April 28 (Day 45)
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Tent: 77F-79F (Day) / 68-71F (Night)
Rh: 62% (Day) / 52% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 5.4/5.5
PPM: 680/630/740/680
Leaf Temp: 76f
Still trying to get the environment dialed for transition.
Dialed temps down to 77f.
Added 10ml of Sensi Grow and 10ml of Sensi Bloom. - First dose of flower nutrients. Put PPM from 630 to 740. Note: In this 15gal system, 5mls of Sensi seems to equate to about 25ppm.
Raised LED light to 20” - Was at 16” due to stretch.
Light defol on MQ4.
Managed time for a bit of scrog tucking but need a bit more stretch to tuck to next square in net on a few. LST to net. If they finish stretch too soon, I’ll work the net down further or supergroup a few of the tall ones before they start to stiffen up
PH rose to 5.5 on its own. Some top-offs could have been the reason.
I’d like to get some better airflow leaf movement. Need to rethink this fan setup or just buy some overpriced clip-on oscillating fans like in my other tent.
I read up on Orca and it suggested applying directly to roots for better coverage and also suggested getting good inoculation before adding phosphorus (flowering nutrients).
Added 8ml of orca in 2L water and pour half of solution directly to each bucket.
Poured some of the solution into a small spray bottle. Opened buckets, reached in with PPE gloves on and sprayed the roots the best I could without disturbing plants. What could it hurt? I could also do a single top feed next time.
Pulled some of MQ3 roots out of the elbow drain.
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April 29 (Day 46)
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Tent: 78-80F (Day) / 70-71F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 47% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.6
PPM: 6440/630/740/690
Leaf Temp: 77f
Brought RH down to 60% (daytime) and 50% (night)
PPM climbed to 5.6 in morning.
PPM dropped from 680 to 640 in morning.
Water dropped below prefered level.
Drinking and eating quite a bit. I’m going to try and get some balance going on with the ppms and water uptake by listening to them and I hear them saying they need more nutrients.
Light defol on both plants to clear off shadows to bud sites - didn’t have much time to spend on defoliation, but some a few minutes is better than none. Need to do some major scrog tucking and lst some branches.
Cleared drain line.
Raised light about 2” in morning - they are sitting at 19” from canopy now.
Slight spotting happening today on leaves - seems deficient because nothing else has happened.
Added 20ml of Sensi Grow A+B in 1L of RO water to bring ppm from 630 to 740. I'll add more nutrients - maybe a veg/flower blend when they bounce to 700 - I reckon I’ll shoot for 800pm.
Added 10ml z9 enzyme and cleaner in 500ml water.
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April 30 (Day 47)
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Tent: 79-80F (Day) / 70-71F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 65F-69F
PH: 5.8/5.7/5.6/5.5
PPM: 660/620/740/690/830
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH went to 5.8 today on its own.
Finally made some time and did a major defoliation on both plants. I tried to only take leaves only pointing to inside of canopy and only took leaves shadowing other bud sites and cautious of anything on the last three noes of a branch.
Slight spotting again on a few leaves.
Added 20ml of Sensi grow A+B in the morning.
Wished I had done a pre-stretch defoliation on MQ4. Could hurt the yield but no time coupled with crazy growth ftw.
Finding some moisture between a few leaves during defol. Reduced humidity more during day and night.
Added 8ml of Orca beneficials into two liters of water and dumped a bout 250ml into a small spray bottle. Dumped half of the mixture into each plant bucket. Sprayed the solution directly on roots on both plants.
PPM going back down again - need to boost and get it steady so they eat and drink at same rate.
Added 5ml sensi Grow A + B with 15ml of Sensi bloom A+B with 10ml of Big Bud in 2L water. Mixed well and dumped into the reservoir. Solution brought PPMs from 690 up to 850.
Plants drank a lot today - added another 2 liter of just water which reduced the PPMs down to 830.
Weekly Recap: Great week - no major issues. Some spotting was corrected quickly - suspected phosphorus deficiency because the base nutrients in previous water change was grow-based nutrients during the stretch. CHanged water after 12 days and formulated base using bloom nutrients with a small amount of grow nutrients for a blend to avoid any calmag issues. I'm still having to defoliate the LST'd MQ4 daily for airflow and keeping bud sites clear of shadows along with spreading some branches out where possible for better airflow.
MQ3 is self-maintaining itself because of mainline and training and considerably taller with bigger buds being produced than MQ4.
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May 1 (Day 48)
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Tent: 79-80F (Day) / 70-71F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 65F-69F
PH: 5.5
PPM: 830
Leaf Temp: 78f
MQ4 has not grown any taller since I last raised light to 19”
I’ll need to clear out the bud sites that didn’t make the canopy in the next couple of days.
MQ3 is still stretching - adjusted light for MQ3
Added 8ml of z9 in 2L water.
PPMs steady at 830.
PH steady at 5.5
Water level has dropped bit when checked in afternoon, but not as much as the past few days. Maybe stressed them a bit yesterday but that major defoliation and weave session needed to happen.
Need to try and even out rest of canopy, but it may be lost cause at this point.
Just leaving them alone today to recover from the major defol.
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May 2 (Day 49)
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Tent: 79-80F (Day) / 70-71F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 5.6
PPM: 810/750/830
Leaf Temp: 78f
Added 8ml of Orca to reservoir (morning)
PH - After holding at 5.4 for a while, it starts climbing up now. Maybe bloom nutrient top offs.
PPMs on the drop again.
Out for most of day - let them grow.
Late in day I noticed spotting starting on both plants looks like phosphorus deficiency to me because nothing is different with system. Rust in middle, purple stems and my solution has been in system for about 12 days which had a base of grow nutrients. I’ve been topping off with primarily bloom nutrients to keep a blend going during transition.
Added 15ml of Sensi Bloom A+B and brought PPM back up to 830 from 750.
Filled flexitank with 45L RO water (evening) in case the spotting increases in morning and I’m correct about bloom nutrients.
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May 3 (Day 50)
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Tent: 79-80F (Day) / 70-71F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 65F-70F
PH: 5.7 / 5.5
PPM: 830
Leaf Temp: 78f
PH came up on its own to 5.7
Mobile spotting is increasing on leaves in morning. It’s time to switch to flowering nutrient base and maybe scrub system.
Water change.
Mixed solution in flexitank using a flowering base nutrients with a small amount of grow nutrients for transition. 1:5 ratio.
45L RO water mixed over 8 hour period with large mixing spoon and waterfall using inline pump and two air stones.
90ml of AN Rhinoskin
100ml of AN Sensi Bloom A+B
25ml of AN Sensi Grow A+B
10ml of AN Big Bud
10ml of Z9 Pt 1 + Pt 2
10ml of Orca (15 mins before filling system)
Mixed values:
PPM: 830
PH: 5.7
Water Temp: 65f
System values (drained):
PPM: 830
Water Temp: 70f
PH: 5.7
When the system was empty, I poured flexitank solution into a dedicated 250ml spray bottle and added two drops of Orca (0.25ml) to the bottle. Sprayed roots directly.
The roots look good. Smell like fresh greens.
I thought I was going to need to scrub the system but after inspection, it's squeaky clean with help from Z9. Stones are stain-free, air lines are clean and no slime or grime.
A tiny bit of nutrient gunk on the screens for the bulkheads to the drain lines.
Slight sediments on the bottom of the reservoir - took a sponge to the bottom of the reservoir and very little residue.
Some light defoliation on both plants.
Plants are transpiring enough I don’t need a humidifier any longer to keep VPD in check.
PH down to 5.5 by midnight from 5.7 when system water was changed. It's going to go back down again I guess.
Removed humidifier from the tent and moved the fan to lower position in the tent and pointed under the canopy.
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May 4 (Day 51)
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Tent: 79-80F (Day) / 72-74F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-75F
PH: 5.4
PPM: 850/880
Leaf Temp: 78f
PPMs going up this morning and the water level is down 1L-2L so they are drinking but not eating yet.
Don’t seem stalled, they needed another defoliation in the morning.
Managed a quick light defol on MQ3. No time for MQ4 until later in the day.
Raised HLG light 1” on MQ4 and 1.5” on MQ3 to keep 19” LED light distance.
PH down to 5.4 overnight.
Left AC vents pointed up while checking res. temp went to 75f. Bah!
Sanitized bottle and added frozen 2liter to bring temps down to 68f over 90 minutes.
Added 5ml of Orca mixed well in 1L of RO water.
PPM went up to 880 throughout the day.
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May 5 (Day 52)
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Tent: 79-80F (Day) / 73-75F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.4
PPM: 880 / 900
Leaf Temp: 77f
No further spotting on leaves.
PPM holding at 880pm but water level needs to be topped off - about 1/2gal. Will want to keep the same PPM on top-off because it seems they are eating and drinking at same rate now.
Super cropped a few tall branches on mq4.
Super cropped one branch on MQ3. MQ3 branches are much hardier than MQ4. Didn’t proceed any further although I’d really like to level 3 or 4 branches out - will see how it responds to the test branch.
PH stable at 5.4
Added Z9 pt 1 and pt 2 mixed well in 1L of RO water.
Added 10ml of Sensi Bloom A+B mixed well in 1L RO water.
(2L water will dilute by 50ppm - - - Adding 10ml nutrients will increase 50ppm to make up for top off and dilution. )
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May 6 (Day 53)
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Tent: 79F-80F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.3
PPM: 900 /
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH dropped to 5.3 overnight - seems it likes the lower range after water changes. Let's see where it is a week from now.
Plants are drinking and eating at same rate. PPM steady at 900 but water level is down 3L.
A little tucking and defoliation to clear light for bud sites.
No further spotting on leaves.
Added 20ml of AN Big Bud mixed well in 1L RO water. PPM stayed the same at 900.
Tough to get around stationary buckets. Need more room to work on plants on next run with 4 plants. - am seeing sections that look more neglected due to reach.
Add 8ml of Orca mixed well in 1L RO water.
Spread branches out a bit in some dense sections of plants - make sure budding sections are off net if possible.
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May 7 (Day 54)
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Tent: 79F-80F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-74F
PH: 5.4
PPM: 900 / 860 / 930
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH rose to 5.4 overnight
Plants are still drinking and eating at same rate. PPM steady at 900 but water level is down 3L.
Defoliation on MQ4 - growth is slowing down now.
Added 10ml of sensi bloom A+B in 1L RO water for top off - brought ppm to 930.
Added 20ml of B52 for stalk stiffening and uptake to 1L of RO water
Left vents up on AC again while checking reservoir. Added frozen 2liter - brought down to 69f
Add 8ml of Orca mixed well in 1L RO water.
Notice some leaf curling and stress on MQ3 and high points of MQ4 and they were praying - showing me the plant is healthy but the curling tells me they are being overworked by the lights. Raised lights to about 20” - MQ4 has leveled out much shorter than MQ3. I think I’ll rearrange lights tomorrow and dedicate the CMH to mq4 for better penetration now that they are used to the CMH; each light has a 3x3 footprint.
Weekly Summary:
Solid week. Moved lights around now that plants are used to the CMH. Each plant has a dedicated light now. FIrst grow with the HLG 300 Rspec and it only has a 3x3 flowering footprint so each plant should have ample wattage with a cross-over spectrum in between the plants. Other than light defoliation here and there for airflow and clearing bud sites of shadows, I've been pretty much hands off other than top-offs. MQ4 became sticky this week. MQ3 is still behind MQ4 by about 5-7 days but producing much larger buds.
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May 8 (Day 55)
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Tent: 79F-80F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.4
PPM: 950/930/950
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH stable at 5.4
PPM steady overnight at 950 but water level is down 4L.
A little tucking and defoliation to clear light for bud sites on both plants.
Cleared some more bud sites that are underwhelming and residual growth from under canopy on MQ4.
No further spotting on leaves.
Worked on MQ4 and spreading some more branches so they have room to swell.
Added 20ml of AN Big Bud mixed well in 1L RO water.
Added 8ml of Z9 pt 1 + pt 2 in 1L of RO water.
PPM bounced up to 950 from 930 after tops offs.
Moved lights around; each plant has a dedicated light. MQ3 has the LED and MQ4 has the CMH with crossover light spread.
Flowers are really starting to stack.
Smell is increasing.
Pink hue on many of the pistils and sugar production going well.
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May 9 (Day 56)
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Tent: 79F-80F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 40% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.5
PPM: 940/970
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH rose to 5.5 on its own.
PPM down to 940 but water level is down considerably so eat/drink rate is mostly steady.
Topped off water level - about 1.5gal
Added 20ml of B52
Added 20ml of Sensi A/B to top off solution to balance ppm. - FInal 970 ppm.
MQ4 has noticeably more frost than MQ3; MQ4 was always ahead of MQ3 in regards to flowering by about 7 days.
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May 10 (Day 57)
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Tent: 79F-80F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.6/5.5
PPM: 950/1000
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH rose to 5.6
PPM down to 950 but water level is down considerably so eat/drink rate is mostly steady.
Topped off water level
Added 5ml of Orca to 1L RO water - mixed well.
Added 20ml of Sensi A/B to 1L of top off solution to balance ppm.
Added more plain RO water to preferred water level.
Total top off is approx 1.5gal - Final 1000 ppm.
Light defoliation on MQ3 and MQ4.
Increased humidity a little to center up on vpd.
PH dropped to 5.5 late in day.
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May 11 (Day 58)
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Tent: 79F-80F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-69F
PH: 5.5
PPM: 990/990
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH steady at 5.5 in morning.
PPM at 990 but water down - eating/drinking at the same rate.
Topped off in morning - about 1 gallon on water.
Over one hour, I mixed the following well in 3 diff water solutions totaling 1 gallon (4L):
Added 20ml of AN Big Bud in 2L RO water.
Added 10ml of Z9 Pt 1 and Pt 2 in 1L water
Added 10ml of Sensi Bloom A+B in 1L water.
Top off final PPM: 990
Buds are really stacking up now.
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May 12 (Day 59)
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Tent: 79F-80F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-68F
PH: 5.5/5.7
PPM: 1000/980/940/1020
Leaf Temp: 77F
Ppm dropped to 980 from 1000
Ph rose to 5.7 from 5.5 organically.
Added 5ml Orca mixed in 1.5 L of RO water. (morning)
Add 20ml of b52 (evening) in 1L water
Add 15ml a/b (evening) in 1L water
Final PPM after top off: 1000
PH rose to 5.8
Later in day PPM dropped to 940 - water level dropped
Add 5ml AN sensibloom a/b (overnight) in 1L RO water
Added 10ml of Big bud in 1L RO water (overnight
Final ppm after top off: 1020
Trimmed off a few popcorns under the scrog on MQ4
Hands off MQ4 - it became extra sticky today.
MQ4 is noticeably more frosty today.
MQ3 leaves still praying a bit on its high points.
Note: find time to hook up the top-off bucket (you should have two weeks ago!)
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May 13 (Day 60)
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Tent: 78F-79F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-68F
PH: 5.7/5.6
PPM: 1000/980/940/1020/990
Leaf Temp: 77F
PPM dropped to 5.6 on its own.
Dropped daytime temps by 1 degree.
Manual top off.
Added 8ml of Z9 in 1.5L of RO water.
Added 20ml of bigbud in 1.5L RO water mixed well.
Final PPM 990
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May 14 (Day 61)
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Tent: 78F-79F (Day) / 71F - 72F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 64F-67F
PH: 5.7/5.6/5.5
PPM: 1000 / 1020
Leaf Temp: 77F
PPM steady at 1000
Cleared drain hoses.
Water smells fresh - I’m not seeing any reason to change the water yet.
Minor defoliation - Only cleared a handful of bud sites for light and a few leaves stuck together.
MQ4 is getting really frosty and sticky.
MQ3 is still a bit behind MQ4, so she’s building up to the frost now. Big chunky buds on her.
Manual Top off:
Added 5ml Orca in 1L RO water (evening)
Added 2.5L RO water plain (evening)
Added 25ml of A+B mixed well in 1.5L RO water (evening)
Final PPM: 1020
Weekly Summary: Overall great week in terms of growth; lots of trichome production, smell has increased; deep, rich, funky, and pungent, hits in back of nasal like a gnarly skunky smell when the tent opens. MQ3 is producing a few really chunky flowers. Summer temps outside this week caused some issues with the environment and water temps being higher than normal. Additionally, I had some logistics I had to take care of quickly that resulted in me working on the lung room and moving equipment around a couple of days, which caused more fluctuations - couldn't be avoided. I knew I’d have some challenges towards the end by starting this grow in March instead of February like originally planned. Good thing temps should stay somewhat cooler until June 15.
A bit of yellowing and spotting happened only on a few leaves on both plants, tops, and bottom. I assumed they need more PK. Big bud product is a weaker version of overdrive, great for transition, but the plants likely require more Phosphorus. I will continue to watch it. Thanks for looking!
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May 15 (Day 62)
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Tent: 78F-79F (Day) / 69F - 71F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-70F
PH: 5.5
PPM: 1020 / 990
Leaf Temp: 77F
Plants look great. More frost today.
Ppm held at 1020 all day.
Added 10ml z9 in 2L ro water
Added 20ml big bud in 1L water
Ppm went to 990
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May 16 (Day 63)
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Tent: 78F-79F (Day) / 69F - 71F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-70F
PH: 5.5/5.7
PPM: 990 / 960
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH rose to 5.7 by morning.
Added 2L of plain water. Brought PPM down to 960.
PPM dropped down to 960 on after top off.
PH rose to 5.8 by evening.
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May 17 (Day 64)
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Tent: 78F-79F (Day) / 69F - 71F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-70F
PH: 5.8
PPM: 950
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH was at 950 in morning.
Add 5ml Orca in 2L water
Add 20ml big bud in 1L water
Add 20ml SensiBloom A/B in 1L water
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May 18 (Day 65)
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Tent: 78F-79F (Day) / 69F - 71F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 45% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-70F
PH: 5.7
PPM: 1020/1010
Leaf Temp: 77F
PH dropped to 5.7
Added 2L of plain RO water
A bit more spotting occurring on leaves. Feeling they need a PK boost. Big bud was great for transition, but AN Overdrive has more PK.
Added 20ml 2L of Overdrive mixed in RO water.
FInal PPM after top off: 1010 PPM
Added a couple of fans on the lower canopy pointing up.
A little bit of defoliation to clear some bud sites and improve airflow.
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May 19 (Day 66)
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Tent: 78F-90F (Day) / 69F - 74F (Night)
Rh: 55% (Day) / 49% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-74F
PH: 5.7
PPM: 1020/980/950
Leaf Temp: 77F
Added 2L of RO water - plain. - PPM dropped from 1020 to 990.
Plants seem to be eating and drinking at the same rate.
Humidity in the lung room is starting to rise due to outdoor temps rising and becoming more summer-like. Lung room RH at 48% today.
Spotting seems to have not progressed any further.
Added 10ml z9 in 1L RO water - mixed well. PPM dropped to 950.
I had some logistics that affected the plants that couldn’t be avoided. I had to remove the window panel for a few hours and shutdown exhaust with only LED of dimmest setting to keep heat down. Temps got up to 90f in tent and water temp went up to 74f, twice.
Add 5ml of Orca (late evening)
It was 28c outside today on top of all of the variables that were out of line due to other factors.
As of this evening, the programing doesn't matter for intake and exhaust. I’m now running the T6 exhaust +S6 intake fans on setting 8 full-time now.
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May 20 (Day 67)
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Tent: 81F-85F (Day) / 73F - 75F (Night)
Rh: 52% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 71F-74F
PH: 5.7/5.8
PPM: 950/900/850
Leaf Temp: NA
Reconfigured Inkbird to 62% humidity. (using boveda)
Added 2L of plain RO water in morning ppm dropped to 900.
It's 30c outdoors today. Water temps held at 70-72 all day, even with lights off and tent temps hit 85f several times.
PH rose to 5.8 on its own - still need to calibrate guardian - it is blinking at me.
Added 4L of RO water in the evening. PPM dropped to 850
Another day of exhaust/intake on constantly with setting 9 - full time, day and night.
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May 21 (Day 68)
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Tent: 80F-86F (Day) / 74F - 75F (Night)
Rh: 52% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 71F-74F
PH: 5.7/5.8
PPM: 850/800
Leaf Temp: 82F
Added 4L of plain RO water bringing PM down to 800
Temps are still warm outside today, but cooler than the past two days. We are supposed to get a cold front in the morning, so hopefully, that cools things down.
Contemplating doing a water change tomorrow - so just going to go with plain water today.
I ordered more Orca Beneficial bacterial weeks ago, but Amazon Canada warehouses got shut down to Covid outbreak, so I’m having to really reduce my beneficial schedule by a few hours each day to get me through until it arrives.
Another day of full intake/exhaust running on setting '9' of 10. 24/7 day and night.
Week Summary: I went for a water change as it had been 18 days.
The Phosphorus deficiency progressed a bit but has been resolved mostly although I feel the factors leading up to it were caused by nitrogen toxicity and natural fade and expected nitrogen deficiency in late flower is also appearing on leaves. The LED cooked some of the leaves on MQ3 as they are dry and brittle. I've since raised the LED and inch and dialed it back the intensity a little and the leaves haven't taco'd since. I was busy with work, so my regiment wasn't as tight as it should have been. The PH has been dropping all week and hasn't started to come back up yet - signaling a possible root issue. Either Something was off about the water change. I didn't expect much growth, but the plants stalled on drinking and eating a majority of the week since water change. Just waiting for them to ripen at this point.
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May 22 (Day 69)
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Tent: 80F-84F (Day) / 73F-75F (Night)
Rh: 52% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 71F-73F
PH: 5.7/5.8/5.6/5.2
PPM: 760/920
Leaf Temp: 80F
Temps in the tent is warm today even with the AC running 24/7.
Given the plants had a few rough days, and 18 days since last water change, I opt for a water change.
Water change: 10gal/40L
Mixed RO water and following nutrients in Flexitank before draining RDWC system.
80ml rhino
80ml sensi bloom A+B
Total PPM 790
Added 6ml of Orca
Added 10ml Z9
Mixed RO water and ph’d to 5.5. Added to 250 ml spray bottle and added 1/2ml of Orca.
Sprayed beneficial PH'd solution directly on roots of both plants.
Roots look good, smell fresh. Only nutrient stain discoloration from what I can tell.
Still undecided if the spotting progressing which started on 14th, is excess Nitrogen locking potassium leading to Phosphorus issue. Decided to go back to just base nutrients to see if it spreads or halts. I can always add more. I suspect too much p/k deficiency because Sensi Bloom part one should have enough nitrogen. I may have added too much nitrogen by adding grow and bloom together during the last phase of stretch/transition.
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May 23 (Day 70)
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Tent: 78F-81F (Day) / 71F - 74F (Night)
Rh: 52% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 71F-74F
PH: 5.2/5.1
PPM: 790/920
Leaf Temp: NA
Cooler temps outside today - tent and water much cooler today.
PPM has been rising quite a bit on its own - will start diluting over the next several days with plain RO.
Added 2L of plain RO water to reduce the PPM.
Every time I perform a water change, the ph drops and then settles and begins to stabilize then starts to go upwards - Suspected due to the ecosystem within the root system and if the plant is leaching nutrients. I’m not paying attention to ph because of the ph perfect tech but I just want to note that it just bottoms out for a few days, then begins to drift upwards.
I found my water quality to stay and smell fresh, as I only changed water twice in 38 days. The plants seem to thrive, drink and eat.. until I perform a water change then stall for a few days in regards to both eating and drinking.
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May 24 (Day 71)
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Tent: 78F-81F (Day) / 69F (Night)
Rh: 52% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-71F
PH: 5.0
PPM: 920/1020/920
Leaf Temp: NA
PPM Rising again - roots are definitely leaching nutrients.
Added 4L of plain water.
Added 5ml Orca mixed well in 1L water.
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May 25 (Day 72)
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Tent: 78F-80F (Day) / 70F (Night)
Rh: 50% (Day) / 48% (Night)
Water Temp: 69F-70F
PH: 5.0/4.9
PPM: 920/1030/890/810
Leaf Temp: NA
PPM keeps rising - I'm just adding water now until it balances.
Handling stems and gently repositing buds daily now for better air flow. Just moving branches around that are sitting against other buds.
Drained 25% of system and added plain RO water for a ppm of 810
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May 26 (Day 73)
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Tent: 77F-79F (Day) / 71F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 46% (Night)
Water Temp: 69F-72F
PH: 5.0/5.3/4.9
PPM: 830/710/780
Leaf Temp: NA
PPM went up overnight to 830 - not as drastic as before.
Drained system a little more and added more RO to try and find a balance.
Added 6ml orca in 1L water after refill (morning) - Final PPM 720
Raised lights an inch.
PPM raised to 780 by end of day.
New bottle of orca arrived in mail!
Added 8 ml of orca in 1.5L water - end of day - Total PPM 760
Inspecting flowers every other day - No signs of nanners or PM.
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May 27 (Day 74)
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Tent: 75F-77F (Day) / 68F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 46% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 5.0/4.8
PPM: 830/710
Leaf Temp: NA
PPM stayed at 760 overnight. Back on track!
Added 10ml of Z9 in 1L RO water.
Temps dropped outside. AC Infinity fans are on constantly on ‘8’ setting. Ambient tent temps are 75f today. Next few days should be cool outside letting me bring the temps down a bit in the tent.
— Roots are leaching out nutrients is my best hypothesis. Spotting was likely nitrogen toxicity + some burn from the last water change May 12, when I blended the grow - should have reduced grow blend because the AN sensi bloom does have a decent amount of nitrogen. Not to mention a possible combination of a Phosphorus deficiency along with a bit of nutrient burn and the added natural late-flower expected nitrogen deficiency and fade in late flower and a bit of light/heat stress. Quite the combo.
Last week was tough for these girls and the water change seemed to stall them. On one hand, I regret the water change and should have just continued with a PK booster (overdrive) because they were doing great. I don’t think this was a case of recent nutrient lockout or PH issue because they were drinking and eating plenty before this past water change. But something was definitely off.
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May 28 (Day 75)
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Tent: 75F-77F (Day) / 68F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 4.5/4.7/4.5
PPM: 690/670/690
Leaf Temp: NA
Water down almost 4L in morning - PPM stayed the same.
Added 4L of plain RO water - brought PPM down to 670.
Some defoliation for air flow.
PPM stayed at 670 all day.
5ml Orca in 500ml RO water
Added 2L more of plain RO water at end of day.
Added 10ml of Sensi Bloom A+B in 1L RO water - mixed well. - brought PPM up to 690.
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May 29 (Day 76)
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Tent: 75F-77F (Day) / 66F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 4.5/4.4/4.2/4.0
PPM: 700/730/690
Leaf Temp: NA
PPM steady at 700 in morning.
The pistils have mostly turned and curled in on MQ4 now but trichomes are just getting milky. Will wait for some amber before considering to chop. MQ3 has a decent amount of white pistils still.
PH is still dropping but I’m not supposed to care because of PH perfect allowing uptake, yet I am still very curious as to why it is happening. Suspected root issues.
Added 10ml overdrive in morning to ensure the phosphorus deficiency is being treated. PPM went to 730
Added 10ml of orca in evening in 1L water.
PH is still tanking. I expected a bit after water change, but dropping 18 points (5 today) in four days is quite concerning. So odd, because before water change, it was 5.8 and drinking and eating. Even if I wanted to flush with some plain water, I’d have to drop the ph from 6.7 out of RO filter to a 4.3 to be safe and avoid ph flection issues, then bring it up from there slowly to an acceptable range so I could re-add a nutrient solution around the 5.6 mark because that is where ph perfect will likely stabilize before refilling system. I still see these plants having 1-2 weeks left.
Added 2L of RO water before lights out.
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May 30 (Day 77)
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Tent: 75F-77F (Day) / 66F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 3.9/3.7
PPM: 690/620/550/460
Leaf Temp: NA
Yup, something is happening acidic with the roots. Possible due to me decreasing amount used and following instructions on bottle to ensure I had enough to last until amazon shipped new bottle after warehouse shutdown due to covid.
Busy rest of the day. Or maybe those warm days last week. I have hot summer temps forecasted to start at end of week and last for several days. Bah.
Now I'm in a predicament with the low PH. A water change will shock the system. I need to bring it up slowly.
Drained part of solution in system and replaced with plain RO water today for top off. Going to flush out any salt build-up for a couple of days.
Added 10ml of orca in evening in 1L water.
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May 31 (Day 78)
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Tent: 75F-77F (Day) / 66F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 3.7/4.1/4.3/4.7/4.9
PPM: 450/220/10/50
Leaf Temp: NA
Drained 1/2 way several times to bring ph using plain water. Did not want to use any ph up or even the littlest amount could mess with nutrients.
I've got some soft roots happening at the front of each. bucket near the drain, they easily pull off but don’t stink like rot, smell more earthy. Almost seems like they aren't getting enough flow. With proper PPE, I reached around the net pot to fluff the backside of the roots, they feel like straw.
I’ll investigate when I chop to see if the problem is in the same area of both buckets.
I wonder if I could add risers to the bottom inside buckets to ensure better flow under and around roots.
Only a few days left of ripening then I'm chopping so it's not worth the cleaning system to minimize any bad bacteria I'll just fight it with enzymes and beneficial.
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June 01 (Day 79)
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Tent: 75F-77F (Day) / 66F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 66F-69F
PH: 4.6/5.1/5.5
PPM: 70/620/670
Leaf Temp: NA
A bit more spotting today - as expected due to slow flush out.
PH dropped to 4.6 by lights on, so I drained once more and took it to a 5.1 with plain RO.
Performed water change.
10Gal RO water
80ml silica - went back to silicate as it is a ph stabilizer.
90ml of Sensibloom A+B
Flexitank FInal Values
PPM: 700
PH: 5.5
Temp: 66F
Once in system final values were:
PPM: 620
PH 5.5
Temp 66F
After water change, I added:
20ml of Orca
15ml Z9 Pt 1 and Pt 2
Later in the day, I added 20ml of Overdrive to help with phosphorus deficiency - brought PPM up to 670
PH was stable at 5.5 at end of the day due to nutrients providing the buffer.
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June 02 (Day 80)
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Tent: 77F-79F (Day) / 68F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 67F-70F
PH: 5.5
PPM: 670/640/620/720
Leaf Temp: NA
PPMs slowly dropping with water level, ph stable.
Going to dose it with beneficials and enzymes every day from here on out. 5-10 days until chop I expect.
Afternoon:
15ml orca in 500ml water
10ml z9 in 50ml water
Overnight
ppm 620
15ml AN sensi bloom a/b
Final ppm:720
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June 03 (Day 81)
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Tent: 77F-79F (Day) / 68F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.5/5.6/5.5/5.6
PPM: 720/740/700
Leaf Temp: NA
PH bounced up to 5.6 but stable at 5.5 later in day.
PPM was at 720 in morning, bumped up to 740 on its own.
Added 15ml of Orca mixed well in 1L RO water in afternoon. PPM: 720
Added 10ml of Z9 mixed well in 1L RO water late evening PPM: 700
The next 8 days will be hot outside, 30c, so maintaining water temps the was I have been may require some intervention. Tent is already 80f with intake and exhaust on max. AC cooling lung room.
This grow should have started Feb 20, not Mar 20 to avoid this issue. The next week will be challenging. Even though I can maintain water temps under 70f all winter long, I may start looking at chillers.
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June 04 (Day 82)
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Tent: 78F-80F (Day) / 72F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.5
PPM: 690
Leaf Temp: NA
PH steady all day.
PPM mostly steady.
Water level noticeable drop so they are eating and drinking at same rate.
Added 10ml of Orca mixed well in 1L RO water in afternoon.
Added 10ml of Z9 mixed well in 1L RO water late evening.
Water temps hit 72F late evening, Added frozen two liter to bring temps down. Tent was 81F
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June 05 (Day 83)
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Tent: 77F-79F (Day) / 68F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.4/5.3
PPM: 720/740/700
Leaf Temp: NA
Plants are drinking more solution today.
PPMs steady
PH steady
A few more amber trichomes today on MQ4
More MQ3 pistils still need to change color.
Added 10ml of Orca mixed well in 1L RO water in morning.
Added 10ml of Z9 mixed well in 1L RO water late afternoon.
Added 20ml of AN Overdrive mixed well in 1L RO water late evening - PH dropped to 5.3
Water temps hit 73F late evening, Added frozen two liter to bring temps down. Tent was 82F
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June 06 (Day 84)
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Tent: 77F-79F (Day) / 68F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.4/5.3
PPM: 720/740/700
Leaf Temp: NA
Hot outside.
Rotated frozen 2 Liters.
Leaves really yellowed up today.
Water temps hit 78f, tent ambient temps hit 90f.
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June 07 (Day 85)
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Tent: 77F-84F (Day) / 68F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 44% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.4/5.3
PPM: 720/740/700
Leaf Temp: NA
Purple is really coming out in the top and exposed buds. Bottom and inner growth is still a bit green.
Trichomes just quite aren’t ready yet. 70% milky with a few ambers on MQ4. Going to try and limp through this week with the hot temps. Probably going to be more relaxed about temps and beneficials since I’ll be chopping next week.
Water change:
PPM in system before water change: 690
10Gal RO water
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80ml rhino
100ml of Sensi Bloom A+B
20ml of Overdrive
Mixed well in flexitank, then drained and added new solution to system.
Final PPM: 800
Final PH: 5.4
Temp: 66F
Added 20ml of Orca later in day.
Added 20ml of Z9
PH climbed to 5.5 later in day.
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June 08 (Day 86)
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Tent: 86-90F (Day) / 82F (Night)
Rh: 49% (Day) / 49% (Night)
Water Temp: 72F-80F
PH: 5.5/5.7
PPM: 800/780/760
Leaf Temp: NA
PPH dropped to 780
Reduced lighting hours to better control heat issues. Dropped from 20/4 to 16 hours on and 8 off.
Tough day. Tent temps averaged to 88f and water temp averaged around 76f and even went up to 80f at one point.
Just kept rotating frozen two liters all day. It takes longer to freeze a bottle than it does to use it reservoir, so there is some delay.
Added 20ml of Orca in morning - PPM dropped to 760 after top off.
Left tent doors open.
PH went up from 5.5 to 5.7
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June 09 (Day 87)
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Tent: 84F-88F (Day) / 80F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 49% (Night)
Water Temp: 68F-70F
PH: 5.7/5.4
PPM: 830/800
Leaf Temp: NA
PH holding at 5.7
PPM went up to 830 overnight - water level has a noticeable drop.
Added 18ml of Orca in 1.5L of RO water
Add 15ml Z9
Add 20ml Overdrive
PH dropped to 5.4 by end of day.
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June 10 (Day 88)
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Tent: 84F-88F (Day) / 74F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 49% (Night)
Water Temp: 70F-75F
PH: 5.4/5.1
PPM: 850/830/780
Leaf Temp: NA
PH dropping. Dropped to 5.3 in morning
PPM went up to 830 overnight - water level has a noticeable drop.
Added 20ml of Orca in 1.5L of RO water - PPM dropped from 850 to 830
Add 15ml Z9 in 1L RO water - PPM dropped from 830 to 820
Added 2L plain RO water. - Ppm dropped to 780
PH dropped to 5.1 by end of day.
Clipped test bud one off MQ4 week ago. Dried in 3 days at 50% humidity in closet. Pulled when spongey, trimmed and tossed in jar with boveda pack. Burped for the week several times a day. Tested... and its dynamite. I could chop MQ4 tit now with no regrets. While the smell and flavor isn’t quite there yet without more cure, it surely sticks to side of jar, dense nuts, frosty AF. I smoked on it all day to test. The head change is really nice, heavy at times.
I may do a water change tomorrow just to give MQ3 a bit more time to curl in the pistils - maybe run until Sunday when my schedule frees up to enjoy the chop process. Since the ph is on the drop, I’ll need to decide.
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June 11 (Day 89)
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Tent: 86-88F (Day) / 78F (Night)
Rh: 48% (Day) / 49% (Night)
Water Temp: 78F
PH: 5.5
PPM: 800
Leaf Temp: NA
Water change:
10Gal RO water
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80ml rhino
100ml of Sensi Bloom A+B
20ml of Overdrive
Mixed well in flexitank, then drained and added new solution to system.
Final PPM: 800
Final PH: 5.4
Temp: 67F
Added 20ml of Orca later in day.
Added 20ml of Z9
Fans on full maximum like last several days. I think I’d add more passive intakes to this tent on the next round if I expect to grow into summer months - which wasn’t planned originally.
Rotated frozen water bottles all day.
Lights are still 16 hours on and 8 off to reduce heat all week.
Note: I didn't necessarily flush but I didn't add any more additives or nutrients while away so I've set the nutrient values in the diary to null.
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June 12 (Day 90)
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Away - Camping.
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June 13 (Day 91)
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Away - Camping.
After camping, they survived the summer heatwave and look pretty good. The stench in the tent is not like your typical Northern Lights or White Widow. It's straight-up funk that hits you in the back of your throat. I can't really pinpoint any specific scents but it's a very rich and pungent odor for sure.
I’m 100% confident the roots are probably degrading with rot after the warm temps. The only problem I had while away is was the AC fills into a 5gallon bucket and it couldn’t keep up with demand about an hour before I got home. After a quick cleanup, I took a closer look and I’m happy with trichomes on both plants.
This was supposed to be a 65-75 day fast finisher. Today is day 91. I’m satisfied.
I consumed a test bud on weekend that went under a 3 day dry. White ash, no harshness, and punchy in regards to the effects. Chopping them tomorrow.
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June 14 (Day 92) HARVEST
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Grow Summary: Grown in 4x4 tent - but I only used 2x4 because of heater and dehumidification. Each plant had a dedicated light, MQ3 used the HLG 300 V2 Rspec and MQ4 used the CMH 315. It's not an accurate comparison of lights because both plants were sharing the HLG during veg. The plants were grown in hydroponics using a custom two-site PA hydroponics clone RDWC system with Advanced Nutrients and Orca for beneficials.
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Harvest
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I carefully chopped each plant individually. I kept plants separate and branches were cut where it made sense due to trellis and ability to easily hang on the dry lines. The smell of this flower on the plant was straight-up heavy, pungent funk. Trichomes are slightly amber, mostly cloudy and I’m overall happy with the trichome development.
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Drying
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Branches were hung to dry on burlap twine in a tent in complete darkness, branches upside down, with humidity dialed in at 65% for 24hr, 64% for the second 24hr. Then 63% for the third day. I then dialed down the RH each day by 1% until I hit 58% RH and hold. Exhaust and intake were on the lowest setting during drying. I pulled the branches to trim as they were ready but the average was about 7-8 day dry.
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Trimming
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I'll admit, I was in trim jail for several nights. I trimmed each stem as it was ready. I like to dry trim when buds were spongy like lightly stale marshmallows (although they were as sticky as melted marshmallows). I should note that MQ4 were ready first, around day 5 because they were smaller buds. MQ3 small buds were ready on day 6/7 and MQ3 big colas were ready around day 8/9. I was happy with the slow dry. All leaves were trimmed, including most sugar. I kept stems intact where it made sense to preserve the buds/colas. I like to trim tight for a quality product. I want buds, not leaves. The largest trimmed colas were the length of my forearm.
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Curing
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My small-town Ontario local stores were out of the 1L mason jars so I had to start with lower grade jars used for pasta and bulk goods - they have plastic threads on the lid.
I added a mini hygrometer to each jar. The RH averaged 68-72% when trimmed flowers went in jars.
I started by burping several times a day for the first week. Rolling jars wasn't working too well because the buds are so sticky. Sometimes, I had to gently remove the contents and re-pack loosely to avoid any chance of mold. Once the jar reaches 64%, I acquired 1L mason jars and loosely transferred flower to proper mason jars with a 62% two-way Boveda pack.
I burped the jars daily for the next two weeks until hits 62% and holds the hygrometer - then it stays sealed and just rolled daily.
The large colas stayed in the tall pasta jars to preserve their integrity.
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Final Yields
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Wet Product:
MQ3: 85.82oz
MQ4: 95.27oz
Total Wet Product Yield: 181.09oz (11.3 lbs)
Flower Product:
**Measured 20 days after harvest at 62% RH in jar.
** Test branch not included in weight
MQ3: 277g (mainlined) [Left in photo]
MQ4: 179g (LST) [Right in photo]
Finished Product Yield: 456g (16.28oz)
Trim Product:
**Measured 20 days after harvest
MQ3: 80g
MQ4: 55g
Total Trim Weight: 135g = 4.82oz
Total Yield:
Flower: 456g (16.28oz)
Trim: 135g (4.82oz)
Total Yield Weight: 591g (21.11oz)
Yield per Watt:
591g / 615w = 0.96g/watt
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Product Test
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On day 30 of cure, I tested the flower and passed some to a few friends for their input.
Feedback was positive. Sticky, trichome-covered, dense, fire! The buds stick to the sides of the jars. Mostly dense buds - not airy. Smoke is smooth, no cough. White ash. The 60/40 (sativa/indica) is a blend that is on point. I can see this being a daily choice for me. It has a nice kick for an uplifting focus session. And long-lasting! Upwards of 2.5 hour noticeable head/body change.
In regards to flavor and smell, it's not fully there yet. It doesn’t taste or smell like hay, but the flavors/scents are still muted. There are indeed creamy, sweet, sugary undertones in the scent that it is giving off. I’ll expect more flavour on day 60 of cure. I’m a heavy user for many years and only purchase AAAA craft outside of my own harvests. With bias, I’m going to say this particular harvest after cure is as good as anything in my jars from craft suppliers.
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Regrets
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Not topping MQ4. MQ4 was a lot of work on the defoliation weeks 4-6 and it produced less yield. MQ4 threw a pistil on day 23 so mainlining this pheno probably wasn’t an option, but I could have at least topped it once on day 18ish. Also wished I had added dedicated lights around week four. Oh! And I probably should have hooked up my top-off bucket to keep the water level the same but life got busy and I kept putting it off because I wanted to build a new stand for it.
BlendingPH Perfect Coco grow and bloom on week 6. I won't do that again. After research, bloom has enough nitrogen and calmag for the stretch.
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Next Run Mods
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I’m going to try the Microbial Mass product in combination with Orca (which is seems to be more of a Myco Inoculant). I also may try adding GH RapidStart as well for more root growth. I was overall happy with Advanced Coco blend for RWDC. I went with Coco product because CoCo mostly like hydro and from research, the AN Coco line just has added Calmag to it. I didn’t really see any issues with the AN Coco line and it surely produced even though I pushed the nutrients a bit hard and got some toxicity in early flower.
I also had an issue with the roots in the front of the buckets where the roots seemed to get a bit mushy and starting to rot. I may put a riser/elevator in the bottom of the bucket to allow water to flow under the roots. While the flow in my two-bucket RDWC system is adequate, I may upgrade the pump from a 250gph to a 400gph for better flow to combat that issue with roots in front of the bucket. I’ll be running 4 plants next run in the fall. Either (2) two-site systems in parallel with different strains -or- a 4 site single system with all same strain; undecided.
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Final Thoughts
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I’m super satisfied with Night Owl genetics in my RDWC setup. I also feel a dedicated light for each plant really helped put the improve the yield, nearly 1gram per watt. I feel if MQ4 was even just topped, not even mainlined, instead of LST technique, this grow would have exceeded 1gram per watt. Added the CMH about 10-14 days earlier would have likely improved yield as well.
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The End
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Thanks for checking out my diary! I typically journal in my notebook but I put some time and effort into documenting my grow on this platform in hopes it will help a new or experienced grower with their DWC journey. Any questions or suggestions are welcomed.
Happy growing!