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Med_in_Tropic Med_in_Tropic
3 years ago
Phytotoxicity means fertilizer burn. I transplant 5 healthy babies to ½ gallon pot. Change soil to “dirty” old soil with earth worm casting and chopped coconut husk. Added a bit of granular humic acid to reduce pH. Then I doused the seedling with manure tea prepared for mature plants. Leaves started to burn withing the hour. They will survive. This will set me back a couple of weeks. Lesson is that I should push them a little at a time. Big push is not love. Colchicine treated Golosa. Colchicine treated plant number T1 hardly has any root during re-pot. And over fertilizing almost killed her. Top tip was burned off. Oh well, this is like topping by fertilizer. She is resting and recovering in shade outdoor. Treated plant number T2 has full root. She is too healthy and looks the same as untreated. She was also burned but will easily survive. May be polyploid treatment did not work on her The smallest plant, T3, is the healthiest plant this week. She was too small for re-potting and was spared from fertilizing. So she recovered from colchicine treatment. She still has some growing to catch up to. Untreated Golosa, Phenotypes are more pronounced. Dark green leaf also have wider leaves and is shorted than light green leaves phenotype. They were all burned badly. But will survive. I need to smoke to ease my pain.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 3 years ago
Would polyploid weed cutting take root and clone as usual? I treated my Golods plant with colchicine. They maybe triploid already. So, I think I have s plant that is either tetraploid or hexaploid. Would these clone at all? Do I need to take extra cuttings?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 3 years ago
First generation plants that have been treated with colchicine are unsafe to smoke. The plant will be no more potent than the original. Clones should be as straight forward as with normal plants. It is only safe to smoke polyploid plants that have been grown from seeds produced by polyploid parents. Polyploidism only affects size/growth and vigor of the plant, but not THC production, sadly. If it did create super resinous plants, they would have been on the market for decades already.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 3 years ago
What would be a good fertilizing scheme for making robust seeds?
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Sunstonedgrows
Sunstonedgrowsanswered grow question 3 years ago
You'll want to fertilize close to week 2 or 3 of flower maybe a bit later. As for fertilizer regimen you do need a good amount of phosphorus, but potassium, nitrogen and your micronutrients are very important. Personally I recommend doing a ratio of 2/3 bloom and 1/3veg nutes. Personally I am using Dr. Earth dry amendments, and the mix of 2 scoops of flower and 1 scoop of veg works great for me.
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Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 13 years ago
My mind is blown 💥
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
😀😀😀😀😀 @Shooey, thanks mate. Hope the result will be useful.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 13 years ago
Can u tell if your roots swelled up?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
👍 good point. thanks @GYOweed, i’ll look at next container chang. I better wait until root fill out a little and see.
homerjgangia
homerjgangiacommentedweek 03 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbcommentedweek 03 years ago
Happy growing my friend! Nice reading your diary. Say hello if you ever visit my profile🌱 Peace & love L.S.T
HighRoller909
HighRoller909commentedweek 03 years ago
bery interesting good luck man.hope it is safe to use that polyploid solution
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowerscommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, 😂😂😂 defo keep us posted on that although could use N2O? have a giggle while you work... 👊👊👊🙏
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@HighRoller909, just did the colchicine dip. No extra fingers on my hands yet. But it is still early.
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 03 years ago
Incredible detail Med, nothing is left to chance! I’m impressed with delicious seeds 👍
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Shooey, thanks. I would love the taste and smell of SBR. But i was going for resistance. And there s one thing about chance factor. Its my fumbling hands 😀😀😀🙏😀😀
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfcommentedweek 03 years ago
Back in the day some guys over here in Australia were experimenting with colchicine to induce polyploidism they apparently had some good results with the second generation seeds they made from the crosses I have a bottle of the colchicine tablets for gout and been thinking of experimenting one day Good luck mate 👍 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304423818307908
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Grey_Wolf, i started on this. It took me 50 tablets for 15 cc solution. Concentration was at 0.2%. And tablets don’t dissolve well. Lab researchers have this automatic stirrer. May be i need to order lab grade colchicine? And yeah, second cross will get you triploid plants that grow better than tetraploids. And i was thinking about your feminized pollen for the next steps.
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commentedweek 03 years ago
Wish you best of luck and happy growing 👊😎
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowerscommentedweek 03 years ago
Hi Med, good luck buddy. going to be very interesting.... the polyploid saga!! SMF 🙏 😎 🙏
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 93 years ago
On a real quick look, T3 looked like a polyploid. This phenotype would be awesome to work with in an indoor setup: they should grow some huge colas and stay compact. Nice project. About the FFT7, are you trying to revert it without reveg her?
sativaman
sativamancommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, thanks. Not easy to find a good male sometimes..
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@sativaman, Golosa has a big range of phenotype. O don’t recommend it. You will need to send rt out the pheno’s and clone a few rounds to make it worth the cost of seeds.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @sativaman, when it is this late, it takes too much work to reveg. She is unlikely to survive. And she won’t do “rodelization “ either. This is my 10tg FFT7 clone. But since i had not pulled her. Since i won’t be using this spot. A few extra puff of silver her way might get me some sack. Less chunky but more potent than White Critical with similar smell.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 03 years ago
Those will be monsters
GYOweed
GYOweedcommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, nice you used colcoochi? How much bap u use? 15ppm or less for seeds?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@GYOweed, i hope i get an Audrey II.
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 233 years ago
An other nice cannadventure that comes to the end! Bravo for all the work you've done with this project! mmmm...!!! sticky buds !!!!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
🙏🙏🙏@sativaman,
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 183 years ago
Always interesting to read your updates mate. The golosa looks brilliant with all that frost at the moment mate! I remember reading about kratom last time you included it in your post. Last week I learned about “betel nut”. I had never heard of this until I was watching the news and I saw a street sign in Papua New Guinea saying “no chewing betel nut”. It reminded me of kratom, and I start to wonder why we never hear of these things much here in AUS, despite having the same climate and conditions as most of the Asian areas they are popular in. Maybe aussies are lazy?? We found weed, then we stopped looking 🤣
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Shooey, thanks mate. Beetle nut is a nasty way of consuming nicotine. It is red. So this is much worse than chewing tobacco. Actually a nice sort of palm to prevent soil erosion near a water ditch. Kratom is a construction worker thing. It grows on trees. So, it is very cheap. Thus its not hip. Buck hoe operators, asphalt pavers have kratom habit so they can brave the heat while working. Kratom is also use to rehab opoid addicts. It blocks the same neurob path that make opoids addictive with much lower effects. Seeds germinate well one fliwer costs two-dollar. And a flower will give you a hundred or so seedlings but these grow very slowly during the first year. And each is a tree.
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 173 years ago
Great news about new legislation! So is it for personal use? How many plants are you allowed to have now?? I really wish we would move on this here in AUS, it's time really. Whip snake is awesome!! He even looks friendly what a beauty
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@Shooey, as it is, no limit for home use as long as you don’t sell it. We are waiting for the grace period before the bill became a law. No limit allows me to clone. This particular snake is friendly. We leave each other to our own business. My concern is more about my dogs would hurt him. As it is, these fur balls never look up.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 33 years ago
Wow
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@GYOweed, this one feeds lightly. Will take a while to recover.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 153 years ago
Nice clustering keep the trichome production up!
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 113 years ago
Happy new year med Hope you had a great holiday mate 🍻
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 113 years ago
Happy new year to you and all your plants!!
DogDoctorOfficial
DogDoctorOfficialcommentedweek 23 years ago
💚💚💚Nice 💪💪💪 happy Halloweed and keep it up 💚💚 💚 growers love 💚💚💚
Godesskat
Godesskatcommentedweek 03 years ago
Everything is better with a beg of weed👻 Good luck happy growing😍