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Med_in_Tropic Med_in_Tropic
3 years ago
Golosa normal dried by hanging in my garage. Dry weight was at 120 grams. Comparing to polyploid treated, I got more weight out of this plant. The gain was probable from extra four weeks in total growing time. I am happy with 120 grams yield from 12 hours natural sun light set up. Buds dried in an unfamiliar fashion. The fat juicy buds shriveled up but still sticky wet. I think Golosa has Sativa leaning bud structure but produce large amounts of wet sticky trichome. A good goal for Cannabis breeding. The wet buds are sticky but easily burned. Smoke was smooth right out of drying. Taste was sweet. And there was only a small bit of spiciness. The polyploid Golosa was full of peppery caugh. Warning, Golosa is to be smoke just before going to bed. Effect hit fast and hit hard. Whacking dizzying with THCV impact. After stumbling to bed there was not much time to enjoy the euphoria. Normal Golosa bud is more potent than polyploid Golosa. I went into deep slumber and woke up late on the next day. I have remaining two plants. They are doing fine in bad weather. Temperature went up to 38 degree Celsius (100 degree American). The week was wet with a tropical cyclone storm. After 7 weeks in flower, recovered plants developed respectable trichome. I think I am letting the treated plant go to 9 weeks of flowering. The untreated plant will go for 10 flowering weeks. This past week, the plants showed high sensitivity to fertilizing again. I gave them another dose of bat guano, molasses, and epsum salt, and amino-seaweed stuff. Epsum salt was for potassium. And it is additional to my normal fertilizer schedule. Then a couple of days later, Golosa show burn spots on leaves. This strain has high sensitivity to nutes. Remaining treated plants showed sign of mite attacked. I think it is more of phenotype issue than polyploid characteristic. Remaining untreated plant has darker green leaves. I think it is more of phenotype issue than polyploid characteristic. Summarizing my first dabbling into making polyploid: One out of four plant showed clear differences in characteristics. Polyploid plant is more peppery smell. Potency was strong but not as strong as normal Golosa. Polyploid roots was not strong. And cloning was difficult. Polyploid plants was shorter. I don’t like firs generation of polyploid plant. It could be a useful tool for breeding “triploid” plants to reduce hermaphrodite tendency and make shorter plants.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 3 years ago
Would polyploid weed cutting take root and clone as usual? I treated my Golods plant with colchicine. They maybe triploid already. So, I think I have s plant that is either tetraploid or hexaploid. Would these clone at all? Do I need to take extra cuttings?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 3 years ago
First generation plants that have been treated with colchicine are unsafe to smoke. The plant will be no more potent than the original. Clones should be as straight forward as with normal plants. It is only safe to smoke polyploid plants that have been grown from seeds produced by polyploid parents. Polyploidism only affects size/growth and vigor of the plant, but not THC production, sadly. If it did create super resinous plants, they would have been on the market for decades already.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 3 years ago
What would be a good fertilizing scheme for making robust seeds?
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Sunstonedgrows
Sunstonedgrowsanswered grow question 3 years ago
You'll want to fertilize close to week 2 or 3 of flower maybe a bit later. As for fertilizer regimen you do need a good amount of phosphorus, but potassium, nitrogen and your micronutrients are very important. Personally I recommend doing a ratio of 2/3 bloom and 1/3veg nutes. Personally I am using Dr. Earth dry amendments, and the mix of 2 scoops of flower and 1 scoop of veg works great for me.
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Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 13 years ago
My mind is blown 💥
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
😀😀😀😀😀 @Shooey, thanks mate. Hope the result will be useful.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 13 years ago
Can u tell if your roots swelled up?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
👍 good point. thanks @GYOweed, i’ll look at next container chang. I better wait until root fill out a little and see.
homerjgangia
homerjgangiacommentedweek 03 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbcommentedweek 03 years ago
Happy growing my friend! Nice reading your diary. Say hello if you ever visit my profile🌱 Peace & love L.S.T
HighRoller909
HighRoller909commentedweek 03 years ago
bery interesting good luck man.hope it is safe to use that polyploid solution
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowerscommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, 😂😂😂 defo keep us posted on that although could use N2O? have a giggle while you work... 👊👊👊🙏
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@HighRoller909, just did the colchicine dip. No extra fingers on my hands yet. But it is still early.
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 03 years ago
Incredible detail Med, nothing is left to chance! I’m impressed with delicious seeds 👍
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Shooey, thanks. I would love the taste and smell of SBR. But i was going for resistance. And there s one thing about chance factor. Its my fumbling hands 😀😀😀🙏😀😀
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfcommentedweek 03 years ago
Back in the day some guys over here in Australia were experimenting with colchicine to induce polyploidism they apparently had some good results with the second generation seeds they made from the crosses I have a bottle of the colchicine tablets for gout and been thinking of experimenting one day Good luck mate 👍 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304423818307908
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Grey_Wolf, i started on this. It took me 50 tablets for 15 cc solution. Concentration was at 0.2%. And tablets don’t dissolve well. Lab researchers have this automatic stirrer. May be i need to order lab grade colchicine? And yeah, second cross will get you triploid plants that grow better than tetraploids. And i was thinking about your feminized pollen for the next steps.
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commentedweek 03 years ago
Wish you best of luck and happy growing 👊😎
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowerscommentedweek 03 years ago
Hi Med, good luck buddy. going to be very interesting.... the polyploid saga!! SMF 🙏 😎 🙏
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 93 years ago
On a real quick look, T3 looked like a polyploid. This phenotype would be awesome to work with in an indoor setup: they should grow some huge colas and stay compact. Nice project. About the FFT7, are you trying to revert it without reveg her?
sativaman
sativamancommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, thanks. Not easy to find a good male sometimes..
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@sativaman, Golosa has a big range of phenotype. O don’t recommend it. You will need to send rt out the pheno’s and clone a few rounds to make it worth the cost of seeds.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @sativaman, when it is this late, it takes too much work to reveg. She is unlikely to survive. And she won’t do “rodelization “ either. This is my 10tg FFT7 clone. But since i had not pulled her. Since i won’t be using this spot. A few extra puff of silver her way might get me some sack. Less chunky but more potent than White Critical with similar smell.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 03 years ago
Those will be monsters
GYOweed
GYOweedcommented3 years ago
@Med_in_Tropic, nice you used colcoochi? How much bap u use? 15ppm or less for seeds?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@GYOweed, i hope i get an Audrey II.
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 233 years ago
An other nice cannadventure that comes to the end! Bravo for all the work you've done with this project! mmmm...!!! sticky buds !!!!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
🙏🙏🙏@sativaman,
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 183 years ago
Always interesting to read your updates mate. The golosa looks brilliant with all that frost at the moment mate! I remember reading about kratom last time you included it in your post. Last week I learned about “betel nut”. I had never heard of this until I was watching the news and I saw a street sign in Papua New Guinea saying “no chewing betel nut”. It reminded me of kratom, and I start to wonder why we never hear of these things much here in AUS, despite having the same climate and conditions as most of the Asian areas they are popular in. Maybe aussies are lazy?? We found weed, then we stopped looking 🤣
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
Hi @Shooey, thanks mate. Beetle nut is a nasty way of consuming nicotine. It is red. So this is much worse than chewing tobacco. Actually a nice sort of palm to prevent soil erosion near a water ditch. Kratom is a construction worker thing. It grows on trees. So, it is very cheap. Thus its not hip. Buck hoe operators, asphalt pavers have kratom habit so they can brave the heat while working. Kratom is also use to rehab opoid addicts. It blocks the same neurob path that make opoids addictive with much lower effects. Seeds germinate well one fliwer costs two-dollar. And a flower will give you a hundred or so seedlings but these grow very slowly during the first year. And each is a tree.
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 173 years ago
Great news about new legislation! So is it for personal use? How many plants are you allowed to have now?? I really wish we would move on this here in AUS, it's time really. Whip snake is awesome!! He even looks friendly what a beauty
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@Shooey, as it is, no limit for home use as long as you don’t sell it. We are waiting for the grace period before the bill became a law. No limit allows me to clone. This particular snake is friendly. We leave each other to our own business. My concern is more about my dogs would hurt him. As it is, these fur balls never look up.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 33 years ago
Wow
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago
@GYOweed, this one feeds lightly. Will take a while to recover.
GYOweed
GYOweedcommentedweek 153 years ago
Nice clustering keep the trichome production up!
Shooey
Shooeycommentedweek 113 years ago
Happy new year med Hope you had a great holiday mate 🍻
sativaman
sativamancommentedweek 113 years ago
Happy new year to you and all your plants!!
DogDoctorOfficial
DogDoctorOfficialcommentedweek 23 years ago
💚💚💚Nice 💪💪💪 happy Halloweed and keep it up 💚💚 💚 growers love 💚💚💚
Godesskat
Godesskatcommentedweek 03 years ago
Everything is better with a beg of weed👻 Good luck happy growing😍