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Med_in_Tropic Med_in_Tropic
3 years ago
Flowering week 5, no fascination on treated plant. I am disappointed. On the other hand, this plant stinks to high heaven. Ttrichome is oozing with oil. Buds are fattening up quickly. However, there had been hot rain this week. Humidity runs into 90+% in the nigh. And I think I would give her only one or two more weeks to go and harvest her early. Flower this sticky is unlikely to survive mold in this hot and humid climate. Mite does not bother her so much. I don’t think they can even walk through the sticky buds. The soil was “no till” old soil from previous grow. And it shrunk a little. So I added some earth worm casting and a bit of guano on the top. A couple of days later, Golosa showed tip burns. She does not take fertilizers too well. The most important thing about Golsosa with polyploid treatment is the strong stench. It is skunky and peppery. The untreated plant smell strong but not as badly as the treated plant. Only one plant should be grown at a time as it makes the neighborhood block smell bad. Normal Golosa is doing okay. The flower is dense but not as crazy as the polyploid version. The Golosa clone took root easily enough. Three out of four survived. And the one that did not was from my rough handling that snapped and folded the twig. Poor thing. I am keeping two clones. These clones will be my mother plants. And the clones were put in with companion plants. One is with flowering purslane from old grow. And another is with newly planted sea purslane twigs. Clones are still weak with mite attack. I am only monitoring the mite and won’t do anything unless I I think mite would kill the plants. I think avoiding bug control measures will let natural predators do their things. Breeding project was terminated. After six weeks, male flowers are not blooming. Roots looks dead. Oh well. I have two plants that almost died from over feeding. Recovered plants are doing okay. I took some more cuttings from a recovered version that was also treated with colchicine. After a week, none of cutting survived. Seemed that polyploid treatment make Golosa more difficult to clone. Outside of the house, a cheeky whip snake visited my fence. Bugs swam my fence light early in the evening. Lizards and gecko feast on the bugs. And snake came for the lizards. Thailand had removed cannabis off illegal drug list. In general, home grown weed for own use is okay. Yeah. So, my plants can send out advertising smell and I won’t have to worry about getting shake down from the cops. However, there will be more red tape, tax, and fee for cannabis business.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 3 years ago
Would polyploid weed cutting take root and clone as usual? I treated my Golods plant with colchicine. They maybe triploid already. So, I think I have s plant that is either tetraploid or hexaploid. Would these clone at all? Do I need to take extra cuttings?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 3 years ago
First generation plants that have been treated with colchicine are unsafe to smoke. The plant will be no more potent than the original. Clones should be as straight forward as with normal plants. It is only safe to smoke polyploid plants that have been grown from seeds produced by polyploid parents. Polyploidism only affects size/growth and vigor of the plant, but not THC production, sadly. If it did create super resinous plants, they would have been on the market for decades already.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 3 years ago
What would be a good fertilizing scheme for making robust seeds?
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Feeding. Chemical composition
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Sunstonedgrows
Sunstonedgrowsanswered grow question 3 years ago
You'll want to fertilize close to week 2 or 3 of flower maybe a bit later. As for fertilizer regimen you do need a good amount of phosphorus, but potassium, nitrogen and your micronutrients are very important. Personally I recommend doing a ratio of 2/3 bloom and 1/3veg nutes. Personally I am using Dr. Earth dry amendments, and the mix of 2 scoops of flower and 1 scoop of veg works great for me.
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Shooey
Shooeyweek 1
My mind is blown 💥
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
😀😀😀😀😀 @Shooey, thanks mate. Hope the result will be useful.
GYOweed
GYOweedweek 1
Can u tell if your roots swelled up?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
👍 good point. thanks @GYOweed, i’ll look at next container chang. I better wait until root fill out a little and see.
homerjgangia
homerjgangiaweek 0
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbweek 0
Happy growing my friend! Nice reading your diary. Say hello if you ever visit my profile🌱 Peace & love L.S.T
HighRoller909
HighRoller909week 0
bery interesting good luck man.hope it is safe to use that polyploid solution
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowers
@Med_in_Tropic, 😂😂😂 defo keep us posted on that although could use N2O? have a giggle while you work... 👊👊👊🙏
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@HighRoller909, just did the colchicine dip. No extra fingers on my hands yet. But it is still early.
Shooey
Shooeyweek 0
Incredible detail Med, nothing is left to chance! I’m impressed with delicious seeds 👍
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Hi @Shooey, thanks. I would love the taste and smell of SBR. But i was going for resistance. And there s one thing about chance factor. Its my fumbling hands 😀😀😀🙏😀😀
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfweek 0
Back in the day some guys over here in Australia were experimenting with colchicine to induce polyploidism they apparently had some good results with the second generation seeds they made from the crosses I have a bottle of the colchicine tablets for gout and been thinking of experimenting one day Good luck mate 👍 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304423818307908
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Hi @Grey_Wolf, i started on this. It took me 50 tablets for 15 cc solution. Concentration was at 0.2%. And tablets don’t dissolve well. Lab researchers have this automatic stirrer. May be i need to order lab grade colchicine? And yeah, second cross will get you triploid plants that grow better than tetraploids. And i was thinking about your feminized pollen for the next steps.
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 0
Wish you best of luck and happy growing 👊😎
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowersweek 0
Hi Med, good luck buddy. going to be very interesting.... the polyploid saga!! SMF 🙏 😎 🙏
sativaman
sativamanweek 9
On a real quick look, T3 looked like a polyploid. This phenotype would be awesome to work with in an indoor setup: they should grow some huge colas and stay compact. Nice project. About the FFT7, are you trying to revert it without reveg her?
sativaman
sativaman
@Med_in_Tropic, thanks. Not easy to find a good male sometimes..
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@sativaman, Golosa has a big range of phenotype. O don’t recommend it. You will need to send rt out the pheno’s and clone a few rounds to make it worth the cost of seeds.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Hi @sativaman, when it is this late, it takes too much work to reveg. She is unlikely to survive. And she won’t do “rodelization “ either. This is my 10tg FFT7 clone. But since i had not pulled her. Since i won’t be using this spot. A few extra puff of silver her way might get me some sack. Less chunky but more potent than White Critical with similar smell.
GYOweed
GYOweedweek 0
Those will be monsters
GYOweed
GYOweed
@Med_in_Tropic, nice you used colcoochi? How much bap u use? 15ppm or less for seeds?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@GYOweed, i hope i get an Audrey II.
sativaman
sativamanweek 23
An other nice cannadventure that comes to the end! Bravo for all the work you've done with this project! mmmm...!!! sticky buds !!!!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
🙏🙏🙏@sativaman,
Shooey
Shooeyweek 18
Always interesting to read your updates mate. The golosa looks brilliant with all that frost at the moment mate! I remember reading about kratom last time you included it in your post. Last week I learned about “betel nut”. I had never heard of this until I was watching the news and I saw a street sign in Papua New Guinea saying “no chewing betel nut”. It reminded me of kratom, and I start to wonder why we never hear of these things much here in AUS, despite having the same climate and conditions as most of the Asian areas they are popular in. Maybe aussies are lazy?? We found weed, then we stopped looking 🤣
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Hi @Shooey, thanks mate. Beetle nut is a nasty way of consuming nicotine. It is red. So this is much worse than chewing tobacco. Actually a nice sort of palm to prevent soil erosion near a water ditch. Kratom is a construction worker thing. It grows on trees. So, it is very cheap. Thus its not hip. Buck hoe operators, asphalt pavers have kratom habit so they can brave the heat while working. Kratom is also use to rehab opoid addicts. It blocks the same neurob path that make opoids addictive with much lower effects. Seeds germinate well one fliwer costs two-dollar. And a flower will give you a hundred or so seedlings but these grow very slowly during the first year. And each is a tree.
Shooey
Shooeyweek 17
Great news about new legislation! So is it for personal use? How many plants are you allowed to have now?? I really wish we would move on this here in AUS, it's time really. Whip snake is awesome!! He even looks friendly what a beauty
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@Shooey, as it is, no limit for home use as long as you don’t sell it. We are waiting for the grace period before the bill became a law. No limit allows me to clone. This particular snake is friendly. We leave each other to our own business. My concern is more about my dogs would hurt him. As it is, these fur balls never look up.
GYOweed
GYOweedweek 3
Wow
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@GYOweed, this one feeds lightly. Will take a while to recover.
GYOweed
GYOweedweek 15
Nice clustering keep the trichome production up!
Shooey
Shooeyweek 11
Happy new year med Hope you had a great holiday mate 🍻
sativaman
sativamanweek 11
Happy new year to you and all your plants!!
DogDoctorOfficial
DogDoctorOfficialweek 2
💚💚💚Nice 💪💪💪 happy Halloweed and keep it up 💚💚 💚 growers love 💚💚💚
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 0
Everything is better with a beg of weed👻 Good luck happy growing😍