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Med_in_Tropic Med_in_Tropic
2 years ago
Two healthy Golosa plants are finally growing at the pace where they should have been doing. The key is not to feed them at all. Only earth worm casting in in small 7-lites pot is enough for Golosa. And they do not like to be handle. No matter how gentle, they slow down after transplant. Golosa plants are compact and in general are column type that refuse to branch after the first round of early topping. I then her again late last week. This round, I sprayed them with brassinolide combined with BAP to promote side branching. The branches are developing well. I need to hardened the branches a bit before I can take clone to see how difficult they are to clone. Golosa is straight column short plant and sea of green growing style would be good. There is also big swing in different phenotype. Cloning is important for this strain. There is some small sign of mite. So, I whip up my anti bug microbes again. And spray them. Sick and small Golosa seemed to be recovering and start growing again after a month in ICU. To make things worse, mite feast on sick plants. And it further weaken them. I am not interested in these plants. They will miss the primary cool and dry season. But since I am winding down my main growing season, there is some free space. So, I am keeping them. Again, Golosa plants do better when I don’t feed them or stress them. I am still attempt to breed the plant that I think is polyploid. And I have been spraying White Critical Clone with STS follows by colloidal silver once a day for the past two weeks. And one good thing about spraying silver is that there is not mite on this clone whatsoever. As for getting pollen, seemed like small male flowers are forming. There is no round flowers showing yet. Perhaps I should have let the clone grown a little before spraying. The intended female plant is polyploid treated Golosa. She looks ready with her side branches starting. Normally, male flowers develop a couple of weeks before female. I think it is better to pollinate when female flower are three weeks old. Older male with younger girl, Again, I am waiting to see male flower cleary developing on White Critical clone before I start to put polyploid treated Golosa into flower. I spent my Christmas at a beach. And had the chance to pulled up some sea purslane (sesuvium portulacastrum). It usually works as companion plant to cannabis and helps keep cannabis roots healthy. However, sea purselane grows much slower than cannabis. And I think it is a good idea to keep mature batches going for transplant. They do need light and heavy feeding before they are big enough to contribute. In the past, when I am short of sea purselane, flowering type purselane will be better than none. Happy Newyear my dear gardening comrade. May all will be healthy and free in 2022.
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Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 2 years ago
Would polyploid weed cutting take root and clone as usual? I treated my Golods plant with colchicine. They maybe triploid already. So, I think I have s plant that is either tetraploid or hexaploid. Would these clone at all? Do I need to take extra cuttings?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
First generation plants that have been treated with colchicine are unsafe to smoke. The plant will be no more potent than the original. Clones should be as straight forward as with normal plants. It is only safe to smoke polyploid plants that have been grown from seeds produced by polyploid parents. Polyploidism only affects size/growth and vigor of the plant, but not THC production, sadly. If it did create super resinous plants, they would have been on the market for decades already.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropicstarted grow question 2 years ago
What would be a good fertilizing scheme for making robust seeds?
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Sunstonedgrows
Sunstonedgrowsanswered grow question 2 years ago
You'll want to fertilize close to week 2 or 3 of flower maybe a bit later. As for fertilizer regimen you do need a good amount of phosphorus, but potassium, nitrogen and your micronutrients are very important. Personally I recommend doing a ratio of 2/3 bloom and 1/3veg nutes. Personally I am using Dr. Earth dry amendments, and the mix of 2 scoops of flower and 1 scoop of veg works great for me.
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Shooey
Shooeyweek 1
My mind is blown 💥
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
😀😀😀😀😀 @Shooey, thanks mate. Hope the result will be useful.
GYOweed
GYOweedweek 1
Can u tell if your roots swelled up?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
👍 good point. thanks @GYOweed, i’ll look at next container chang. I better wait until root fill out a little and see.
homerjgangia
homerjgangiaweek 0
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbweek 0
Happy growing my friend! Nice reading your diary. Say hello if you ever visit my profile🌱 Peace & love L.S.T
HighRoller909
HighRoller909week 0
bery interesting good luck man.hope it is safe to use that polyploid solution
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowers
@Med_in_Tropic, 😂😂😂 defo keep us posted on that although could use N2O? have a giggle while you work... 👊👊👊🙏
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@HighRoller909, just did the colchicine dip. No extra fingers on my hands yet. But it is still early.
Shooey
Shooeyweek 0
Incredible detail Med, nothing is left to chance! I’m impressed with delicious seeds 👍
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Hi @Shooey, thanks. I would love the taste and smell of SBR. But i was going for resistance. And there s one thing about chance factor. Its my fumbling hands 😀😀😀🙏😀😀
Grey_Wolf
Grey_Wolfweek 0
Back in the day some guys over here in Australia were experimenting with colchicine to induce polyploidism they apparently had some good results with the second generation seeds they made from the crosses I have a bottle of the colchicine tablets for gout and been thinking of experimenting one day Good luck mate 👍 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304423818307908
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Hi @Grey_Wolf, i started on this. It took me 50 tablets for 15 cc solution. Concentration was at 0.2%. And tablets don’t dissolve well. Lab researchers have this automatic stirrer. May be i need to order lab grade colchicine? And yeah, second cross will get you triploid plants that grow better than tetraploids. And i was thinking about your feminized pollen for the next steps.
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 0
Wish you best of luck and happy growing 👊😎
sailormoonflowers
sailormoonflowersweek 0
Hi Med, good luck buddy. going to be very interesting.... the polyploid saga!! SMF 🙏 😎 🙏
sativaman
sativamanweek 9
On a real quick look, T3 looked like a polyploid. This phenotype would be awesome to work with in an indoor setup: they should grow some huge colas and stay compact. Nice project. About the FFT7, are you trying to revert it without reveg her?
sativaman
sativaman
@Med_in_Tropic, thanks. Not easy to find a good male sometimes..
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@sativaman, Golosa has a big range of phenotype. O don’t recommend it. You will need to send rt out the pheno’s and clone a few rounds to make it worth the cost of seeds.
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Hi @sativaman, when it is this late, it takes too much work to reveg. She is unlikely to survive. And she won’t do “rodelization “ either. This is my 10tg FFT7 clone. But since i had not pulled her. Since i won’t be using this spot. A few extra puff of silver her way might get me some sack. Less chunky but more potent than White Critical with similar smell.
GYOweed
GYOweedweek 0
Those will be monsters
GYOweed
GYOweed
@Med_in_Tropic, nice you used colcoochi? How much bap u use? 15ppm or less for seeds?
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@GYOweed, i hope i get an Audrey II.
sativaman
sativamanweek 23
An other nice cannadventure that comes to the end! Bravo for all the work you've done with this project! mmmm...!!! sticky buds !!!!
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
🙏🙏🙏@sativaman,
Shooey
Shooeyweek 18
Always interesting to read your updates mate. The golosa looks brilliant with all that frost at the moment mate! I remember reading about kratom last time you included it in your post. Last week I learned about “betel nut”. I had never heard of this until I was watching the news and I saw a street sign in Papua New Guinea saying “no chewing betel nut”. It reminded me of kratom, and I start to wonder why we never hear of these things much here in AUS, despite having the same climate and conditions as most of the Asian areas they are popular in. Maybe aussies are lazy?? We found weed, then we stopped looking 🤣
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
Hi @Shooey, thanks mate. Beetle nut is a nasty way of consuming nicotine. It is red. So this is much worse than chewing tobacco. Actually a nice sort of palm to prevent soil erosion near a water ditch. Kratom is a construction worker thing. It grows on trees. So, it is very cheap. Thus its not hip. Buck hoe operators, asphalt pavers have kratom habit so they can brave the heat while working. Kratom is also use to rehab opoid addicts. It blocks the same neurob path that make opoids addictive with much lower effects. Seeds germinate well one fliwer costs two-dollar. And a flower will give you a hundred or so seedlings but these grow very slowly during the first year. And each is a tree.
Shooey
Shooeyweek 17
Great news about new legislation! So is it for personal use? How many plants are you allowed to have now?? I really wish we would move on this here in AUS, it's time really. Whip snake is awesome!! He even looks friendly what a beauty
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@Shooey, as it is, no limit for home use as long as you don’t sell it. We are waiting for the grace period before the bill became a law. No limit allows me to clone. This particular snake is friendly. We leave each other to our own business. My concern is more about my dogs would hurt him. As it is, these fur balls never look up.
GYOweed
GYOweedweek 3
Wow
Med_in_Tropic
Med_in_Tropic
@GYOweed, this one feeds lightly. Will take a while to recover.
GYOweed
GYOweedweek 15
Nice clustering keep the trichome production up!
Shooey
Shooeyweek 11
Happy new year med Hope you had a great holiday mate 🍻
sativaman
sativamanweek 11
Happy new year to you and all your plants!!
DogDoctorOfficial
DogDoctorOfficialweek 2
💚💚💚Nice 💪💪💪 happy Halloweed and keep it up 💚💚 💚 growers love 💚💚💚
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 0
Everything is better with a beg of weed👻 Good luck happy growing😍