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Topping
weeks Technique
Defoliation
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Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Blue Dream Auto
Humboldt Seed Organization
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Strong
Other than the fact that this plant went 20 weeks, I am really happy with this strain. It smells great, handled topping and training well, and it produced awesome lower and side buds. This is by far the densest plant I've harvested, and she looks absolutely beautiful. I've been convinced by growing this strain to dedicate this tent specifically to photoperiod plants. I really enjoyed being able to train this plant -- even if it went longer than I'd have preferred. Great smell, supposed to be the best strain of 2018, and I'm looking forward to trying it after a good cure!
The Outcome
Week 19
Harvest
What's on the scales?
84
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.03
mยฒ
ftยฒ
Grow Room size
0.34
g / watt
2800
g / mยฒ
84
g / plant
33.33
plant / mยฒ
8333.33
watt / mยฒ
Tastes like
Flowery
Sweet
Tropical
Nutrients
Always nice to have for when nutrient temps are hard to control!
I barely used this. My RO water needed a few drops when I'm not running any nutrients.
Love the Connoisseur lineup. Iโ€™m definitely seeing increased yields compared to Grow, Bloom, Micro. Doesn't keep it pH'd perfectly, but it does seem to limit swings as long as there is a decent PPM level.
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Chi_Town_White_Boy Chi_Town_White_Boy
5 years ago
Finally!! Harvested this lady at almost exactly 20 weeks. While she went longer than I expected, her yield looks amazing! Hoping to surpass 100g with this because she smells awesome! Looking forward to many nights of blue dreams! ๐ŸŒฒWill update dry weight and smoke report over next few weeks. THANKS to all who gave input on this grow! ๐Ÿ™ SMOKE UPDATE: This strain is by far my favorite! It was actually smokeable right after it finished drying -- I always try them to see how they are. This was the first strain that I grew that I actually felt happy smoking right out of the drying tent. Of course, with a couple weeks worth of curing, the buds got harder and more dense. The nugs break up great, and they have this white look to them overall. Very asthetically pleasing and has a very strong smell. The easiest note of flavor/aroma to pick out is the blueberry, but it's hard to really describe it overall. Great taste, great smell. The high is quite a kick -- I smoke a lot, and many of the strains I have grown don't give you a kick right when you light it up. Sometimes I find myself feeling the high when I walk away after 10 minutes. But with this strain, I literally feel a head rush on my first toke. It's hard to finish sometimes! Love this strain; will definitely be growing it again next cycle. I might even grow an entire tent of this strain! It's that good! A+ ๐Ÿ‘Œ
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Grow Questions
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boystarted grow question 6 years ago
Iโ€™m on day 41 and the pistils havenโ€™t really appeared fully. Theyโ€™re green and not white, and growing a lot of new foliage. It seems like itโ€™s still vegging. Do I have a photoperiod? Should I give it another week? Isolate it and switch to 12/12? It healthy...but what gives?
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Stick
Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi @Chi_Town_White_Boy! Well I don't think you have a photoperiod if pistils appeared under 18/6 schedule. I think you have a monster, and you slowed it down each time you worked on it (topping, defoliation, LST). You must know that breeder's schedule are always optimistic, you can easily add 2 to 4 weeks in a non-perfect environment. Judging by the impressive growth since last week, I think she started to stretch, meaning that pre-flowering has begun. Patience is the key, keep up giving her good care and much love, you'll be rewarded soon with a monster full of flowers ๐Ÿ˜Ž I'll be around, keep us up-to-date and happy growing ๐Ÿ‘Š
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boystarted grow question 6 years ago
I ordered another grow tent today so that I can put this one on a 14-hour light schedule. It's just taking way to long and isn't forming substantial budlets yet. Anyone think this is a bad/good idea? Pistils are visible, but not much else.
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DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedanswered grow question 6 years ago
I do think itโ€™s a good idea. I have an auto I started at the beginning of April indoors. She never flipped to flower, so I put her outside in the middle of the summer. Once the daylight hours started getting less than 14 per day, she started flowering. Sheโ€™s looking beautiful now. Hoping to harvest in 3-4 weeks now. You should be able to achieve similar results with a second tent. Good luck ๐Ÿ‘
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boystarted grow question 5 years ago
What is this white stuff on some of my leaves? I had very minor pH fluctuations. It got a little warm -- about 83 degrees F for a day or two. Water temps got up to 75 for an hour or so. Light is pretty close. Any ideas what this is?
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Stickanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hi @Chi_Town_White_Boy! I think you just named it: pH fluctuations, getting worst very quickly because of hot roots and maybe light stress (your new lighting setup could be involved). You can tuck the most affected leaves to increase light & air penetration (they won't recover) and double check that your pH-pen is calibrated, while trying to maintain decent temperatures in the air / in the solution. The spots should not spread as long as your pH is fine. Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and happy growing ๐Ÿ‘Š
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Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boyweek 16
The seed for this said it was an auto, but I had to put it in 12/12 to flower -- seeming to indicate that it's a photoperiod. The odd thing is that it doesn't seem to be able to handle nutrients at high levels like photoperiods normally do. Even at 550ppm max this plant got a little tip burn (very minor). It's strange to me because if it was truly a photoperiod, I wouldn't have expected it to drink so lightly on nutrients. Is this some sort of auto/photo hybrid? Maybe I screwed it up by topping?
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, love the way you're talken about that auto, pretty happy i don't have to live through that ... gonna be killer smoke though !
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@CRiSPrGrow, I just doubled the light wattage. I haven't started checking trykes yet just because all of the pistils are white. There's literally like 2 orange hairs on the topmost buds and that's it. I think it's got a long ways to go still...spent too long in veg.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, maybes up the light see if you can get weight going on her, she s got a faire few weeks inner ? have you started checken trykes or not yet?
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DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedweek 11
I do think itโ€™s a good idea. I have an auto I started at the beginning of April indoors. She never flipped to flower, so I put her outside in the middle of the summer. Once the daylight hours started getting less than 14 per day, she started flowering. Sheโ€™s looking beautiful now. Hoping to harvest in 3-4 weeks now. You should be able to achieve similar results with a second tent. Good luck ๐Ÿ‘
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeed
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, I'd recommend trying 12/12, just to be safe. I'm not sure what causes autos not to flip to flower automatically. Maybe it was actually a photoperiod seed that accidentally got mixed up at the breeder. Or maybe that seed just didn't get enough of the ruderalis traits for some reason. Who knows. But I would anticipate flowering to take about 8 weeks. Good luck!
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@DudeGrowsWeed, I moved her to her own tent. I have the timer set to 14 hours on. Should I go less? 13 or 12 maybe? I've never done photoperiod plants, so I'm not entirely sure what's recommended here. Also, how long should I anticipate the flowering period being? 4-8 weeks?
JemGreen
JemGreenweek 1
I also grow in DWC (bubbleponics, to be specific) and am looking over to autos, but would like to top and defoliate them if possible, so I'll be watching closely to see how it goes for you. All the best.
JemGreen
JemGreen
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, thank you so much for the thorough feedback, I seriously appreciate it. I think I am going to switch over to growing a single auto plant that I top and LST in the two grow boxes I have (the second one's still being made at the moment). That'll only end up being next year, but I'm keen for the switch. I topped my current plants in week 2 and 3, so I should be good there. Any suggestions for defoliation tips and intensity for my future auto grows?
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@JemGreen, I've definitely had success topping autos. I do notice that it tends to push them to the 11-12 week range for harvest, but I'm not having any problems with yield. I will also add that, using the same system, nutrient schedule, and setup, I am getting way more yield on the autos that I top than I am with the ones I do not. At least double the yield. I grew Critical Auto recently (did not have a diary for that one - though it is visible clearly in the tent photos from my Northern Lights diary) , and I topped it a LOT just as an experiment. The breeder said it is a "petite" yield -- and it seemed like it was going to be that way. My Northern Lights (which I topped only once or twice) was getting really, really bulky. However, when I ended up harvesting them, my Critical blew the Northern out of the water. I even had multiple tops on one primary stalk, and all of those turned out to be the biggest yielding stalks. I also harvested a Big Bang a couple weeks ago, which was not topped, and it had a very low yield. I'm interested to see how my 60-Day Lemon does, and expect to be harvesting that in 2-3 weeks. That one has not been topped, but has the full light of my tent right now because it is the only one beyond 4 weeks old. In regards to defoliation, I lollipop all of my plants. Like usual, I get better development on the top buds. My 60-Day Lemon is really showing this right now -- all of the side buds are gaining significant mass. The only thing about topping and defoliating autos, as you probably already know, is the timing. I am topping my autos as soon as I can reasonably access the main stalk without damaging the two bud sides that I'm hoping will take over. That tends to be during week 3 for me (top feeding speeds up the process significantly!). I will top through week 5, or 6 in extreme cases, but never after that. Again, I will say that this seems to push the harvest back a week or two, as mine are never done by week 9. But, my yields are about 4oz with autos I top. Less then 2oz with autos I do not top. I always do LST, unless I have no room left in my tent. Would love to hear others experiences with topping and defoliating.
TOTEM
TOTEMweek 19
Congrats for your harvest bro! Nice one! Canโ€™t wait to read your smoke report ๐Ÿ˜‰
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Thank you thank you @TOTEM! 20 weeks of my life....I feel like I could possibly be a responsible parent now ๐Ÿ˜‚ I'll have to smoke and think about it ๐Ÿ˜ฑ I actually am glad I had this plant go so long because it let me kind of experience the photoperiod grow. I was never really interested in it because of the length they take to get to harvest, but now I realize that having a few extra weeks in veg means you have a few extra weeks to get her shaped properly for light penetration. That extra time gives you an option to top and have a good recovery. I ordered some Critical Jack photoperiods from Dinafem. I had to buy this 2nd tent just for this Blue Dream -- I didn't want to drop my autoflowers to 12 hours a day. Anyway -- now I've got a 2nd tent and I want to do autos in one and photos in the other. Thanks for checking out my grow! I'll definitely have some updates over the next few weeks!
Eauderay
Eauderayweek 17
Hello Chi! Maybe take a pic without LEDs and flash on? You got an auto photoperiod hybrid! Annoying if you wanted a quick harvest, but on the other hand, you will get a lot more buds! I think she still has 3/4 weeks flowering and swelling left.
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boyweek 16
I'm seeing some weird white growth on the edges of a handful of larger leaves. I can't tell what this is. It doesn't really look powdery at all, like mold. It almost looks like its hardening or something. Almost like nutrient burn on the sides -- but it happened overnight. My temps did get up to 75 degrees F last night, and when I got home I dropped it down with some ice buckets. Is this from temp fluctuation/extreme temps?
Stick
Stick
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, yes I think so ๐Ÿ˜ฆ
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boyweek 17
Hey @Eauderay! Thanks for your comment and ideas. I agree with you that it's got at least 3-4 weeks left. Mostly all the pistils are still white...but it is starting to bud up decently (finally). I've got some 6500k lightbulbs at home....I'll pop them in the tent to get it pure white and then take some pics. It's hard to tell if there's still any issues. I've had the pH on spot for the past couple of weeks...but there appears to be some of the bleaching still. It doesn't appear to be light related -- the leaves are almost out perfectly flat with no clawing or bending downwards. There is no tacoing from heat. I really think this was pH or reservoir temps from a few weeks back. Plant seems to be growing just fine, it's just not as pretty as it was a few weeks ago. Again, I appreciate your input!
Reaper
Reaperweek 15
lol that thing is huge how do u prepare the water before adding everything ? in what order? my tap is 8.7ph, when i drop it to 5.5, the water gets cloudy in 24h pleaz help
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@Reaper, I definitely rinse the hell out of my hydroton. It seems to leech into the water anyway. I haven't tried cooking them; not sure if that's necessary. The jump immediately after new water is definitely going to be because of evaporation. Evap it for 2 hours with an airstone and that should help. The initial few days of each week you'll see more fluctuation anyway -- as nutrients are used up there will be a drift.
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@Reaper ๐Ÿ‘Š ๐Ÿ‘†
Reaper
Reaper
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, thanks for the info the only thing else is the clay pelets (hydroton) i rinse and coock them then i put them in 5.5 water but again that water goes to 7.5 in few hours lol. maybe i have to evaporate it too . so frustrating i fisted my pussy
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 6
what's the controller on your tent bro?
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@CRiSPrGrow, the display is made by Nextion. There are plenty of samples of coding and itโ€™s pretty customizable - touch screen letโ€™s you make different information screens. Regarding the pH meters, I know there are two kinds - one that can stay submerged and one that canโ€™t. The submerged type is more pricey. The only thing I could think of to reduce to price would be to setup a big, shared reservoir system. I never did that because I like growing various strains, but if you only had one batch to monitor then itโ€™d be easier and cheaper to maintain, I think.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, very nice i like that display man , thinking about doing this, crazy about the PH sensors' price, any way to get that down? i tried my own sensors, but the "in soil EC" measurement is a bit tenuous.
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@CRiSPrGrow, I made a little tent controller for myself. I used a plastic box that they sell at the hardware store for like electrical connections and stuff. Inside there's an Arduino that just monitors the sensors I attached. I have a sensor that tells me the tent's overall humidity and temperature. Then I have a sensor in each bucket to monitor the temps. I got too lazy to add pH and stuff, but it's been super helpful knowing when the temps in my reservoirs go above 68. Now that it's winter in Chicago though, I'm having a hard time getting my tent up to 70 degrees F! But, I have LEDs in the box that go red or green depending on if I'm within my specs. It's helpful just as an indicator if I have to do something or not. I can glance from 30ft away and know if everything's all good ๐Ÿ‘ Arduinos are only like $15, and sensors are like 5 for $10. You can buy pH meters and stuff, too, but they're like $50 a piece.
BudStinkWeed
BudStinkWeedweek 5
Nice grow! I was curious on starting DWC soon, but ended up working with soil for now. Do you need a dripper for this? If not how do you keep the hydroton on the surface from getting too dry? Also how often do you change your water?
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@BudStinkWeed, my RO is around 8.0. My guess is that we're filtering out most of the acidic stuff so it's probably just getting very basic. I try to shoot for 6.0-6.3 during veg, and 5.6-5.9 during bloom. I'm still adjusting this though. Also, I use Advanced Nutrients, so if there is a high PPM solution, I would have to fight against the nutrients to get the pH where I want. So I only pH when I have a low PPM solution, otherwise the Advanced Nutrient "perfect pH" is kind of useless. In that sense, I don't usually modify the pH during feedings. When the nutrients start to be used by the plant, the pH starts to fluctuate. Thats when I really need to watch the pH. Too low of a nutrient solution and the pH seems to drop and become very acidic. Most othertimes, the pH tends to drift up to a base. Regarding water changes and nutrients, I tend to do that if needed. So, 2 weeks max I make sure I regularly clean my buckets and swap/clean out my air stones. I usually give nutrients once a week, but will add a bit more if necessary 3-4 days in. This lets me give a lighter load of nutrients and see if the plant is taking them or not. So about week 5 or 6 when my nutrient level is near its peak, I'll put about 550ppm of nutrients in initially, but when it drops down to about 100ppm, I push it back up to about 350ppm. That way my plants always have nutrients, my pH is somewhat regulated by the AN lineup, and I'm also not dumping 900ppm on it all at once. If I can get away without cleaning the bucket, I usually just pump out all of the water in my bucket and put a new week's worth of nutrients in. Again, anything more than 2 weeks is probably pushing it. But if I'm doing a second week with nearly the same nutrient lineup, then I try to save myself some time. Glad to give my thoughts!
BudStinkWeed
BudStinkWeed
Yeah that is true. My RO PH is very high for some reason, using Ispring filters for high alkaline so I have to modify the PH for now sadly. What PH are you running with for veg/flower? And when adding nutrients how exactly do you modify the PH? (Do you keep it the same when adding nutrients or allow it to be raised by adding nutrients.) Also with added nutrients how often do you change the water?Sorry for so many questions! Really appriciate the help!
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@BudStinkWeed, hey dude! Thanks for checking my grow! I love DWC! You don't need a dripper necessarily to go DWC. Any sort of top feed, however, does speed up the first 3 weeks significantly. I bought a $10 aquarium pump and some 1/4" water line from the hardware store (like you use for a refrigerator). I drilled really tiny holes in the 1/4" water line and then drilled holes around my net pot to run the water line through (picture: see week 3, day 17 root photo to see 1/4" tubing wrapped). Really crude, really simple, really cheap. Then I have a timer that I turn the power on the pump(s) for 5 minutes every 2 hours. That was the hardest part about the top feed without using a legit drip system -- finding out how long to pump and how often. My plants were droopy for a bit until I got it down. In regards to hydroton being dry, that doesn't seem to affect anything. Once the roots grow through the net pot and hit the water, you are set. The bubbles from air stones are delivering humidity and oxygen to the roots -- and I would guess keeping the internal humidity of the buckets really high. The roots in the net pot that are too far from the water are probably getting moisture from the lower roots. I'm not sure -- but you don't really have to keep the roots wet near the surface. They seem to do that themselves with internal transport. After about week 3, the roots don't need top feed and almost seem to not like it. It's like they're getting too much water. I change my water once every 1-2 weeks. If I'm in a veg state for a few weeks, I may let it go for 2 weeks. I will just pump the water out and pump new nutrients in. Just keep your eye on any growth on air stones or other algae (and definitely use hydroguard, hygrozyme, or some bacteria management). I clean my air stones and my buckets at least every 2 weeks. Buckets I spray hot water on everything and then use microfiber rags to dry them (I read that microfiber can grab 99% of bacteria -- not sure how true that is). For air stones, I boil them in plain water for about 5-10 minutes and then I blow air through them. I will admit that DWC can be a bit of maintenance. If you notice, I try to get all my plants started around the same day. This cycle all of my plants popped on a Tuesday, so I have consolidated all of my routine maintenance to Tuesday nights or Wednesday afternoons. I love DWC. It's definitely a challenge. Prepare to struggle a bit to figure out PPMs and any other issues, just like any other medium. But once you dial it in, you can get some really great control and results. I have 100% control over my water temps, water pH, water nutrient PPM, etc. If you've done soil for a bit, DWC is a bit different but I think worth it. I seem to be getting massive yields even when I screw up! Let me know if you have any more questions. Always glad to help -- and hear other ideas! Please give your two cents if some of my info isn't sitting well with you! Love the community!
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 18
we've been waiting for this for a while now ! ๐Ÿ™Œ
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, do you always talk about your colas like that ? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ and gimme back my emoji haha
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@CRiSPrGrow, haha! Some of us more than others! From the side theyโ€™re starting to look like rockets to Russia! ๐Ÿš€
bobo420
bobo420week 12
That's a nice bush ;)
bobo420
bobo420
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, she's shaping up to be a very lovely lady, good job!
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@bobo420, that's a little forward isn't it!? jk hahaha ๐Ÿ™€ I'm stoked about this plant! Looking really good in its own tent. I'm hoping to learn a few things with this!
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 12
dude lol how does that even happen
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrow
@@Chi_Town_White_Boy, seen this once before on this site, the dude didn t catch it for time, he did like 5 months... his only comment about the strain was "was not an auto so i can't really comment"... mr. diplomat like you haha idk
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@CRiSPrGrow, no idea! Either I got a non-auto seed or all of my topping and pruning screwed up the genetics somehow. I'm leaning towards the former.... We'll see how she does in her own tent over the next week or two. As much as I really didn't need another tent (1 is big, 2 is HUGE) - when this girl comes down, I can now do some testing with SCROG or other methods. Hell, even just having the ability to do photoperiod plants is pretty cool! I got a lot to learn...feels like I'm starting new!
nix_nix
nix_nixweek 6
how do you add 4 ml / l A + b and get 400-500 tds / ppm?) I use osmosis water but when I add 2 ml / l I get 500 ppm
nix_nix
nix_nix
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@nix_nix, Good catch! I should probably be more accurate with my nutrients. I basically follow the recommended portions -- so I'm more or less providing the Advanced Nutrient's schedule. What I mean to say is that I use double for Bloom/Grow than I use for everything else. Typically, I use 3 gallons of water for my nutrient mix. That's usually more than enough to cover my 7.5" line I use as a reference for top water level (once roots have reached it, of course). So, here's what I do for a 3 gallon mix: 20ml of grow/bloom. 10ml of everything else. That's total for 3 gallons of RO water. Depending on what week you're on -- some weeks in AN's schedule include more nutrients than others, which will naturally increase the PPMs. Generally, though, this 20ml base and 10ml everything else (per 3 gal) gets me around 650ppm. I usually will add a bit more RO water to it and mix it up to get it down to the level I want. So it'll take another quarter - to - half gallon to get me down to about 550ppm. On the other side, if I'm changing two plants at the same time -- let's say they're in the veg state together (AN schedule doesn't change much during veg), then I might add two gallons to that 3 gallon mix and bring it down to something like 300ppm, which is usually good for plants that are 2-4 weeks old. So, you're right -- I should be more transparent about my data so that others can learn from my mistakes. Hope this clears that up. I maintain AN's proportions, but then water it down. You can cut the 20/10 ml in half to 10/5 ml and get around 300-400ppm, too. Play around with the numbers, but 600ppm is usually pretty hot for most autoflower strains. My goal here is to reduce the amount of wasted expensive nutrients. Great questions!
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 2
stop with the nutrients. it's still in seedling stage. just keep water at 5.8 ph. do this for at least 1.5 weeks more. then introduce nutes at 1/3rd amounts. you will thank me.
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@BeefWellingtons,I havenโ€™t given any nutrients in a few days. Iโ€™m curious to try your suggestion. How long do you wait for nutes? What about yellowing? What do you use during this time - Hydroguard and cal/mag?
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@BeefWellingtons, I'm using RO water and having it with no nutrients or supplements for 3 weeks seems a bit extreme, considering these plants are only supposed to live 9-12 weeks. I do avoid nutrients for the first few days and then add a little bit towards the end of each week. I'm still adjusting my nutrient schedule, but I feel a lot more comfortable measuring PPM than guesstimating 1/4, 1/3, or 1/2 -- like I see everywhere (even on nutrient labels). It seems like the first week should be ~75, the second around ~150, and the third ~300ppm. Keep in mind that my tap water is 150ppm out of the faucet. Some bottled water I tested is 250ppm! So under ~75 is, in my opinion, a bit too low of nutrients unless you're letting the plant grow its first set of true leaves. After the second start of true leaves appears, however, I think 75ppm is the lowest you'd want. Another thing I've found is that even if I start a reservoir at 50ppm, with Hydroguard, top feeding, and likely some effect by the air stone oxygenation, the PPM tends to slowly climb. If you add any pH Up or pH Down, that increases the PPMs too. So my logic here is this: do you want 150ppm from Hydroguard, hydroton runoff, and pH Up/Down products? Or do you want 150ppm of actual nutrients intended for the plant? It's definitely a trade off situation, and a balancing act to keep pH in range. I have found that Advanced Nutrients will maintain the pH as long as they are above a certain PPM (at least in my RO water -- which measures about 12ppm). As of now, the plant is about 9 days old, is growing its 3rd node, and has roots appearing on each side of the net pot. I'm going to maintain a low PPM (probably around 150-175) over the next few days and will likely creep it up by next week's start. I'm going to follow your grows and appreciate the exchange of ideas!
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 19
what a trip it's been man what a trip it's been, great effort ๐Ÿ™Œ
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@CRiSPrGrow, so glad to see her drying finally ๐ŸŒฒ๐Ÿง Thank you for all of your input with this grow! I learned so much from my troubles! ๐Ÿ™
iMeus
iMeusweek 19
Man I thought those buds were thick as hell then I saw that root mass!! Holy roots lol :) Much love man, can't wait to see more of your handy work ๐Ÿ‘
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@iMeus, thank you brother! ๐Ÿ™ Youโ€™re right - I cant say the root mass is due to the 20 weeks because this strain grew a massive root system pretty early on. Certainly bigger than my other plants, I think. I wonder if itโ€™s photoperiod/auto or strain-specific? Iโ€™m going to do another photo as soon as this is done drying. Weโ€™ll see how those roots develop!
TOTEM
TOTEMweek 16
And then they call it Ph Perfect ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿป๐Ÿคฃ
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@TOTEM, yeah Iโ€™m not too thrilled about this leaf discoloration ๐Ÿคฌ
Stick
Stickweek 16
Hi @@Chi_Town_White_Boy! I think you just named it: pH fluctuations, getting worst very quickly because of hot roots and maybe light stress (your new lighting setup could be involved). You can tuck the most affected leaves to increase light & air penetration (they won't recover) and double check that your pH-pen is calibrated, while trying to maintain decent temperatures in the air / in the solution. The spots should not spread as long as your pH is fine. Hope this will help, keep us up-to-date and happy growing ๐Ÿ‘Š
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Thanks so much @Stick! This popped up overnight and didnโ€™t look like powdery mold - so I was scratching my head! My new light comes today - so Iโ€™m glad that if this happened, it happened now before I swapped lights and placed the blame incorrectly! Iโ€™ll double check pH and will recalibrate my pens. I think this is probably a result of 75+ degree water. It was probably there for 2-3 hours during the day and again during night/morning. The tent temp is too hot from overworking dehumidifier (Chicago weather is all over the place right now). Thanks for confirming my thoughts on this! I appreciate it! ๐Ÿ™๐ŸŒฑ
SeedLover
SeedLoverweek 15
Talking about care... Well done !! She looks amazing!
Chi_Town_White_Boy
Chi_Town_White_Boy
@@SeedLover, thanks brother! I had a bit extra time to train than I planned ๐Ÿ˜ฃ