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SeedlockHolmes SeedlockHolmes
3 years ago
Photos added but more coming *UPDATE* 3 VEG - 25th day of grow: WHAT ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY LADIES?! They are growing crazy xb. Adding photos today 29th April to compare to two days ago. I have to adjust LST ties daily to keep it leveled. -Doing a flush with PH 6 water today to keep it clean. The 7L pot roots are growing through the fabric. Someone already left this as a grow question: https://growdiaries.com/grower/hl2jwillsteel -Thought regulating PH would be more of a pain in the ass but using the PH - powder by GHE is so easy. After doing 3-4 feeds it's automatic to select the right amount to make it's PH 5,8-6. Takes me not more than 3-5min to measure and regulate PH. - If you like growing things you can't be a slothful person. It's amazing what a little constant effort can do and how easy it is to maintain. I hear some almighty people talking about what's best and ideal in terms of grow philosophies and methods when they haven't tried half of it. That's just INERTIA. It's always harder to think of cleaning instead of cleaning or thinking of walking instead of walking. WEEK 3 VEG - 24th day of grow: I think they have entered pre-flowering as they are stretching. Noticeable from night to day. Some parts of the plants grew 2-3 cm overnight. WEEK 3 VEG - 23rd day of grow: Feeds: - I keep the feeding nutes every watering and watering just enough for 20% runoff. Still haven't used the EC meter and for now no problems. They bursted growth between week 3 and 4 (2 and 3 Vegetative) so I started training. The plants are also consuming more water but it happens they don't dry faster. I notice to reach run off I have to use more water than previous week but after I saturate the medium it stays wet almost the same time as previous weeks. Loving coco. - Got a little trouble with n3 and n4 as I allowed, by mistake, PH to drop a bit too much but they bounced back good after a flush. Just to be safe I kept the doses a little lower on those. Also these plants seem to be different pheno form other 4. I'll add more photos of these later. - Overall raised the PH more to 6 instead of 5.8 as they could be reaching pre-flowering. - I'll be feeding the Bloom Boster by Terra Aquatica by end of week. Also added Bactobloom from Agrobacterias. General Notes: -Been saving energy by turning on the ventilation 30 min and off the next 30 min. Also not using exhaust but leaving fan on during night ours so I can sleep. Also been leaving the window open to lower temps to 18ยบC. Looking for the purple. - Using Sinol Pre Gel - something like ONA Gel - on the oulet of the tent's exhaust just to test before it smells...WORTH. - "Building" the elevated saucers for the pots so that I don't have to move the plants to get rid of runoff as they grow. Leaving photos when done. - The Silicate by Terra Aquatica really making a difference on the strength of the stems. All you got to do is to drop less than a tsp on top of the substrate at the plants base and we are good to go. Keeping this one.
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SeedlockHolmes
SeedlockHolmesstarted grow question 3 years ago
Hi, Trying to tune in feedings and watering in a 100%Coco grow "without" an EC meter (I have and it's my safety net for this trial) I left a note on how I'm doing it on the description of 1st week of the only diary I have. Posting some pictures soon. Give me your insights please
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 3 years ago
Ok I grow in coco often. I dunno where you got your information on how, but this is how. Coco is a high irrigation inert substrate. Basically hydro in a bag or potter. So it always stays wet. Tons of run off. 5.8 ph in and 5.8 ph out of bottom in run off in vegging. Anything about a 6.2 the roots are locked out in. Dropping coco ph will require lots of water. It is ok you can not over water in coco unless you dump a straight stream in 24/7. It holds air like perlite protecting roots from over water. You also look to be feeding really heavy for a auto AR 2 weeks. They should be literally just getting a taste of nutrition at day 7 to 10. Then slowly increase. My first feed is about 4 drops of each of my 3 part and cal mag at 1 ml to liter the whole grow. If you got a decent cal mag you won't need more. Every feed though. Coco absorbs cal mag. I feed every other morning after I flush coco and get a ph reading. Then adjust if needed. Then I put a gallon on nutrition in. Which I use 3 gallon fabric. In coco they don't need anymore, but roots will fill them nicely. Coco is not soil don't treat it as such. You will encounter major issue, and lose a lot of the grows potential. I feed every other and splash just enough ph water on them to keep them wet between feedings. In heavy bulking in flowering I like to add bloom booster to splash. Hopefully this helps.
SeedlockHolmes
SeedlockHolmesstarted grow question 3 years ago
Hi Growers, I've done lst and hst on autos before but not always the same nice results and I wonder what tips you might have or what markers I might look for in the plant to know if it's on point for training. How to identify the peak of vigor before it happens in veg?
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hey there Seedlock , autos' stems "thicken up" quite quickly and it can be a bit difficult to train them and especially difficult for the training to pay off. You want to start as early as possible, something like 10 days , dont forget an anchor. if you leave it too long the bud sites get all stunted , that's the thing. you can tell by the appearance of 5 pointed leafs, try to do all that beforehand. Buy yourself some time by removing the leafs as they split or even beforehand.
SeedlockHolmes
SeedlockHolmesstarted grow question 3 years ago
My N4 on the Underground Pleasures diary is a bit strange. Can you notice from the pics? It is a bit droopy because it's night time for them but the problem is the clawing and has a paler green than the others. I flushed it with PHd water and keeping nutes by half the strength.
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hey there Seedlock, you had a bit of root problems , you can tell from the droopy leafs and other symptoms. It's basically a problem from overwatering because of the top cover that you have there. Basically if there is not easy drying so mold and other issues can happen. so if you follow a much stricter wet dry cycle the problem should fix itself based on your feeding schedule that you already have. just start again with bacteria and fluvic acid, appart from this little thing , you're really doing a good job. Hope this helps ! ๐Ÿš€
SeedlockHolmes
SeedlockHolmesstarted grow question 3 years ago
Hi all, I'm wondering...I'm using flora tri pack plus fulvic acid, bloom booster, bennies and gonna finish with Ripen. Should I add the candy anywhere along the way or not needed? If possible check my diary before to understand better where I'm at in this one. Thanks in advance
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spyder
spyderanswered grow question 3 years ago
personally I'd say you shouldn't need it,, with whats being used...should be getting all it needs from those..
SeedlockHolmes
SeedlockHolmesstarted grow question 3 years ago
Hi All, Another question about feedings: I've used the Silicate from T. A. (GHE) along side beneficial microbes on the start of vegetative. I've dropped the dust of silicate with the dust of microbes on the top soil. Should I do it now in flowering too or too late for that.
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 3 years ago
silicate doesnt really make a difference when you're already feeding calmag, but the beneficial bacteria always works though, it usually does help , you can easily add them to benefit during flower. hope this helps ! ๐Ÿš€
SeedlockHolmes
SeedlockHolmesstarted grow question 3 years ago
Cal mag def? Photo of new growth affected:
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Hashy
Hashyanswered grow question 3 years ago
Looks like magnesium to me.
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@SeedlockHolmes, sorry if i wasnt clear growmie, it's a root zone issue (more) commonly found when folks overwater. In your case it's caused by exactly what you just said. So you have to fix the root zone. In coco, the only way you can do that is by removing the problem roots. Right now you can do this by using the fluvic acid. Just increase a bit the fluvic for a few waterings, reduce the rest of the stuff just a touch also so it doesnt burn. The fluvic acid will break down the problem roots . Another product you can use in addition to the fluvic to prevent this problem is humic acid. usually in your case just one or two doses of humic & fluvic or just humic acid will do the trick. Right now your problem is taking hold but it's not as severe as it can get, maybe the plant will muscle through, maybe it needs a bit of help. Trying to use more beneficials is also quite a good idea if you're having this kind of problem a bit more often something like trichoderma harzianum and bacilus subtilis / thuriengiencis ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ‘Š ๐Ÿš€
SeedlockHolmes
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@CRiSPrGrow, Hi friend, Thank so much for answering! ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ‘Œ Currently overwatering is a bit impossible (also because using 100%coco and I never leave runoff in the plates) but it might have been possible in the beginning like week 1 or 2 when the plant was smaller. Also in the start I had PH a bit lower so I had to flush it early in it's cycle to correct the PH on the substrate. Might have had some deficiencies because of that too causing the paler green and the curling down leaves - they were folding at the veins. What would be your second guess other than overwatering? That N4 seems to be catching up with all the others. The roots on all plants are almost visible, that's how developed they are, and they are going through the fabric pots. ๐Ÿ’ช I'll keep watching it the next days to see if it's good now before I close the grow question and select the answer.
GanjaReaper
GanjaReaperweek 6
Nice plants so far @SeedLockHolmes I would advice you use softer ties for LTS, much safer Use like the rubber ones. Good luck growing and looking forward to see more :)
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@GanjaReaper, Thx, I've tought of that but don't know why the retailers near me don't sell those xD. Aliexpress will have it I guess xD
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Nice colors mate :)
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Cute sweet cat and fragrant buds ๐Ÿ˜