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LeFreshinsoft
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Topping
weeks 4
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weeks 5-12
LST
weeks 8
Perlite
Grow medium
Coco Coir
Grow medium
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Week 6
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33.02
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12 hrs
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resimax resimax
a year ago
Day 35: So after killing one plant last week, and evaluating the status of the one Sweet Cheese I have left, I have decided that the best course of action would be to force it into flower now, as it is showing signs of sexual maturity, and did not take too well to being topped (no new growth in over a week, and the two new tops are about the same size as when the cut was made). Also, the rough seedling phase made its stability and root system not the greatest. I don't want to risk it any longer, as just flowering and putting on all the weight is going to be a risk in itself. @GrowingGrannie and @1882Bean provided me with a ton of advice that led me to come to this conclusion on my own. Thank you both! Day 36: First day after a 12-hour sleep. The light currently sits 18 inches above the Sweet Cheese. Day 37: Sweet Cheese got her first bloom feeding with 2 tsp FF GB, 1 tsp FF TB. I also added 4tsp Epsom salt too, to try to strengthen up their cell walls a bit and help macro nute uptake. The undergrowth seems to be starting to fill out today, after a couple weeks of stunted growth. I was told "Fast Version" strains sometimes don't take too kindly to being topped, which could explain things. But, this is just anecdotal evidence to me right now. I haven't seen any studies or had other experiences myself to compare it with. Sweet Cheese's two new tops have also started to grow after a long period of stunted growth. Day 38: I uploaded a few photos today. I have been staring at this plant every hour or two for nearly 6 weeks now, so maybe you can notice a change in growth from the shot 2 days ago :) Day 39: Sweet Cheese is looking healthy and seems to be loving it centered directly under the light. She's definitely growing again now. After inspecting her substrate, I would normally be feeding her today. I think the extra humidity I have been providing her has helped her to feed faster, and she could use some more food now. But, I am going to wait until tomorrow. I am worried about her root system, and I want to give them a chance to dry out, and creep around looking for more moisture. Additionally, the last few waterings I have only watered around the perimeter for the same reasons. Day 40: Sweet Cheese was fed today with 1/2 tsp FF GB, 2 tsp FF TB. No visible pistils yet, but looking extremely close. Defoliated some large fan leaves off of Sweet Cheese today to allow more light to reach the canopy. Day 41: Some of Sweet Cheese's large neighbors have finally moved out of the tent. I set it on top of a box so that the capopy now sits at a more acceptable distance from the light. It was off by a few inches than what I wanted before, due to the tent sharing with another grow. As of today, there is only a single other small plant in my tent. Sweet Cheese should feel less crowded now, and has more than an inch or two to grow as was beforehand.
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Grow Questions
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question a year ago
I really messed up my first grow. I dropped some JF22H (not feminized) in the substrate of one of the Sweet Cheese pots, as can be seen in the image. Additionally, there has been an extra one growing along with the other JF22H in their own pot. What should I do? Kill or let grow?
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Chucky324
Chucky324answered grow question a year ago
Hello. Interesting problem. The seed that are regular seeds will need to be sexed (looking to see what sex they are) but that only happens after the 5 week of growth. This is what I would do; The roots of these plants are only as long as the stock is tall at this point - I would dig up the regular seeds and put them in smaller pots so they can be sexed and put your fem seeds into the big fabric pots you have there. If your careful not to break the roots, the plants will recover. I like to use liquid seaweed for root stress. Once the regular seeds have been sexed you decide what you want to do. That should give you time to decide which way you want to go with your plants. Chuck.
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question a year ago
I have a huge problem and I have no idea what is causing it or what I should do. Please read the latest week's description for what I have been dealing with all week.
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question a year ago
Well, interesting! I'm assuming you've grown in coco before and know that it must be kept moist at all times, yes? And if the seedlings were lying flat on the coco, it was probably because they weren't getting the water they needed... and knowing how quickly the roots grow and how long they get, they're probably now down at the bottom of that 5 gallon pot and happy because they're in moisture... But that being said, the fabric itself should not be wet (damp is fine, wet is not). I would construct a rack of some sort to keep the pot slightly off the ground so you can give it good waterings/feedings with runoff but so they are not sitting in water all the time. Good drainage is a must! As for the 5 gallon pots - when I grew in soil (I only grow in DWC now), I would start all my seeds in the pots they were going to finish in since all I grow are autoflowers... and the 5 gallon pots were never a problem. If you're growing photos and you feel they ARE a problem (the pots), then by all means, transplant them into a smaller pot and go from there... but the Sweet Cheese sounds like it might be an autoflower (?) and they don't like to be transplanted so I'd leave her alone. Just keep your coco moist and give her good nutes... I wouldn't give just the Big Bloom, I'd also be giving some Grow Big, particularly for the stage they're in - but watch it... I've used FF nutes before and always had a problem with the Grow Big causing nitrogen toxicities and it drove me mad... so go lightly with it at first... you can always increase the dose if needed but it's easier to treat a deficiency rather than a toxicity. Good luck!
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question a year ago
Hi all. Very first grow here, and so many mistakes were made along the way that resulted in stunted growth. I was told photos show preflowers before the 12/12 switch, so is this correct, and can any of my photographs in week 5 be identified as male yet? Thank you!
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question a year ago
If you take photos to about 8-10 weeks youโ€™ll usually see female stigmas on the females.. very small and not obvious but there nonetheless. This is just a sign of sexual maturity and that theyโ€™re more or less ready to flip.. itโ€™s not really preflower.. just an identifying factor. Your sweet cheese should be female cuz I believe sweet seeds only does feminized seeds. Not sure about the other ones you gave tho
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question a year ago
Can anyone identify the cause of this issue? Note that this is occurring on only a single LEAFLET of a single leaf of a single plant. No signs of eggs and it is very slowly spreading. Took 5 weeks to get this far and starting to spread to leaflet next to it with some small spots.
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question a year ago
Well, it's got to be an insect of some kind as a nutrient issue or environmental issue wouldn't cause this kind of damage. I'd get some BT and spray that particular area - top and bottom of leaves - just before lights out. If it IS a leaf-chewing bug, it will take one bite, decide to have lunch elsewhere and go off and die... and BT is organic so no worries there... Good luck - that's just weird!! :-D
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question a year ago
Extremely oncerned about PPFD readings and my light's specs. If you are familiar with Photone and DLI for weeks of cannabis, please send me a Chat message. Getting like 100x difference than what I expected throughout this whole grow. Thanks!
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question a year ago
Tbh Pal.. There really is a lot to it. Just syick with the basics for now.. There's so much info on DLI and it's different for every local and environmental conditions, RH temp.co2 and lots lots more. Get back the basics under your wing 1st.. Once your light has a ppfd of 1000uml. You should be able to get as decent bud if you do things right. As you have fast version. And she mainly young and early into the flip. May I suggest you take all leafs of the nodes, (but just leaving 2 on top of each node for drawing in energy. Heres a link that will show you how to get long colas. A longer version of what I explained: https://www.growweedeasy.com/nebulas-flowering-stage-defoliation-tutorial If you want to increase your growing time. As with my fems I use a far red 730nm after lights out and it changes the photochrome (the time it takes a fems to sleep. From 2 hrs to 5mins) meaning you get 13.hrs of sunlight and 19.4hrs of darkness + the 5-10mins it takes to put them to sleep after the far red goes out. Read this will explain it better and increase your DLI by 10-20% which might not sound like a lot. But with the defoliation I just gave you link to will all play a part in your DLI. But these are environmental conditions to improved your DLI. Any fat red 730nm.. here's a lot more on what I takes about here that will increase the time your plant spends under light. Mars hydro do a good far red + a uv that you can use together or apart. It really speeds up the time in which fems take to flip as some times it can be 7-10 takes meir seen pistils i seen mine after day 3 and she looks much further ahead. Hope this helps. If you need to ask anything about. Feel free to DM me. Enjoy your grow.
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question a year ago
When should I expect noticeable flowers to start forming after switching to 12/12? This strain is a photoperiodic fast-flowering strain of 7-8 weeks in bloom. It's been about 2 now, so just curious if it is typical to not see anything yet, and how long is too long. Thanks!
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question a year ago
So usually after 14 days youโ€™d see some action but Iโ€™m thinking cuz you flipped only 30ish days into Veg could be the delay. The plant will not initiate flower until It has reached a certain sexual maturity basically - even if itโ€™s under 12/12 that whole time. Usually it will be around day 30-45 in my experience that its mature enough to initiate flower. Hope that made sense. Interesting thing is when you have a mother plant thatโ€™s 6 months old - clones from it will trigger so quick because of the age of the plant. Itโ€™s basically the โ€œtriggerโ€ time thatโ€™s delayed a bit cuz itโ€™s so young. But you should be seeing signs very soon or somethingโ€™s up
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question a year ago
How do you get proper drainage? Using them in this grow with coco/perlite and another with soil, and unless I raise them on a rack the bottom stays wet because they sit in the runoff pan. A proper pot has a raised bottom with holes below. Maybe buy a few dish drying racks? Ideas?
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resimax
resimaxanswered grow question a year ago
@gottagrowsometime Rags? I wrote racks lol. I will just use some old fridge racks on a couple bricks or something. Thanks.
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resimax
resimaxweek 1
@GrowingGrannie Yes, very interesting, and no, this is my first grow. I do have Happy Frog myco/humic acid soil that I am starting a separate veg cycle with in solo cups under a 4ft CFL, and those plants (same strain) seem much happier. And no, there are no autos...all photos. Thanks for the tips though. I have since propped them up with a few stacks of those tiny drinking fountain plastic cups under the pots with the tent door open and large box fan blowing (not directly) into the tent in the hopes I can evaporate the water quicker without it pooling on the bottom. The plan was to give them their first micro dose of Grow Big today, but I think I would rather give it 24 hours in this new airflow configuration before I add more moisture to the mix, because the plants are not telling me to feed or water them yet (due to probably what you suspected, because the taproot is happy with the water at the bottom). Thank you very much...this is my very first grow and I wanted to use coir because 1) less bugs 2) no nutes in substrate...i wanted to learn through trial and error the nutes needed through the different periods of growth for these 2 particular strains for a while. I plan on sticking with just these until I zone in on what works good for them, and I'm sure I can apply that knowledge with some adjustments to future strains.
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannie
@@resimax, I think your plan here is a very good one! As you go forward, just understand that growing in coco is much different than growing in soil so the two cannot be treated the same way... It does sound to me like you have at least grown SOMETHING in the past - that you're not a newbie gardener - and this is all to the good. Future reference for this silly site - there is a way to talk directly to other growers in a chat format ... there's a little paper airplane in the bottom right hand corner of your screen... (if it is green, it means you've got a message from someone). If you click on it, you can search for a grower and send them a message OR you can click on the grower's name wherever it appears and that will take you to their profile... from there, there's a "chat" button in the top right hand portion of the screen ... Good luck... I think you're off to a great start!
resimax
resimaxweek 12
@Sour_D, there's the damage. Can't believe it.
Sour_D
Sour_D
@@resimax, amazing how resilient these plants are, looks like it'll be ok. ๐Ÿ‘Š
resimax
resimaxweek 11
@LegacyMarketFarm @Grow4Releaf @Sour_D @Roberts @Ju_Bps @Hydro_Hiebs I destroyed her. Need advice please :(
Hydro_Hiebs
Hydro_Hiebs
@@resimax, what happened?
resimax
resimaxweek 6
I really want this grow to be over. Too much went wrong in my first grow. My startup costs were too high and I could only afford 1 light and 1 tent. I want to setup a rotation of autoflowers so I don't have to wait so long between harvests. Unfortunately, I do not have any autoflower seeds. I have a small collection I am willing to trade for any autos. If anyone in the US is interested, send me a direct chat message and we can talk :) Thanks a lot. I am poor and would have liked a second light/tent, but that isn't going to be able to happen for quite a long time. Gotta make the wife happy and all.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarm
@@resimax, I have a TON of photoperiods I can send you some for sure. Let me see if I can get you some freebie autoflowers to get your practice on but I got you covered for photoperiods. If you are in Canada, I got you covered for lights too. XD
Anonymous_2022
Anonymous_2022week 0
Good luck with your grow ๐Ÿ’ช
Natrona
Natronaweek 6
Hi Resinus, I'm following @LegacyMarketFarm here and on you tube. He has excellent tutorials that have helped me so much.
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 12
Happy growing, i am interested haw F1 perform over regular Photoperiod , investigating for next grow
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdge
@@resimax, Tnx for info!
resimax
resimax
@WhiteEdge, thank you much! I wouldn't take this as a good example. she was mistreated as my first indoor grow. that said, she will put up with anything without a flinch. good strain to grow without any fuss.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmweek 6
Honestly. Looking at this diary, There is a lot you did good here. Every single one of us as a grower will make mistakes each crop. The important part is to learn from it and apply that knowledge in the next harvest. There are so many variables when growing cannabis that nobody can ever be a perfect grower or have a 100% perfect crop. We hope to attain that one day but it is a never ending. journey, Your temp's are looking good for the most part, Your plants look fairly healthy. I have seen a lot worse for first time diaries. In terms of your lights, Do you have any light pulleys like sun grip light pulleys ? Or even string you can use to lower the lights down closer to the plants a bit ? You can get PAR app's for your phone and read the PAR your plants receive from your lights fairly accurately with them. If you get the lights close enough even 100W LED's will do work, It is just about getting them within range to deliver their PAR. The large gaps between nodes & lower count of nodes tells me their lacking light intensity first and foremost. I think that is something to focus on that will yield great results for a minor change. Anything you need help with just shoot me a DM man.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarm
@@resimax, I would say they are perked up a bit for sure but I think they will need some more time with the proper conditions in the tent to really begin to show noticeable growth. It is still an improvement and they for sure look happier.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarm
@@@resimax, Can you send me the manufacturers recommendations ? What PAR is it suggesting to give them at that height ? This is the best tool for calculating your plants DLI, Daily light integral. https://www.cannabislighting.info/?week=3&duration=18&ppfd=840&step=1&embed=false
Hydro_Hiebs
Hydro_Hiebsweek 11
She's a beast she will get past this. After everything she's been through. She's not backing out now ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
resimax
resimax
@Hydro_Hiebs, haha, thanks for the encouragement. She has been through more stress than any plant I have ever grown. If any plant would do it, it's definitely her. I will watch this branch for leaf curl and monitor its health for a possible early branch harvest. Thanks!
BBhykiem1
BBhykiem1week 10
Looking good
BBhykiem1
BBhykiem1
@@resimax,hey that's okay, mine was 20 gr dry I believe, be proud you made it this far, alot of people don't, your first time smoking your own stuff is going to be awesome, I remember thinking, wow I grew this?! Like I really did this? Brings it to a entire new level. your almost there keep it up
resimax
resimax
@BBhykiem1, thanks! It'll be a tiny harvest, but my first, and I'm excited at how she looks so far :)
Tom_Jay
Tom_Jayweek 7
Happy growing ๐Ÿ˜‡
Tom_Jay
Tom_Jay
@@resimax, ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
resimax
resimax
@Tom_Jay, thanks, I'm having a lot of fun for sure! :)
mcflow
mcflowweek 11
Looking good!
resimax
resimax
@mcflow, thank you, bud!
Hydro_Hiebs
Hydro_Hiebsweek 10
She's looking good! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’จ
resimax
resimax
@Hydro_Hiebs, thank you! my first baby girl and already looking frosty with a while to go yet ๐Ÿ˜
PersonalSmok3s
PersonalSmok3sweek 7
Plants are looking lush man, doing a good job ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ’š
resimax
resimax
@PersonalSmok3s, thank you so much!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudeweek 7
Hey bud, love your grow. It's really nice to see someone else at the beginning of their journey, but really into it, like I am. :) Don't despair about this schedule, sure it is a fast flower, but the plant knows, and you can choose when to cut it. 7-8 weeks is not set in stone. This is a photoperiod plant and should therefore be quite resilient. If you want to see a plant that has no right to be doing what it is, take a look at "Karen" in my diaries. She was starved and under weak light for 3 weeks after I solved the problems she recovered and exploded... and she's an auto with a supposedly "fixed" schedule; nothing is fixed when it comes to life.
resimax
resimax
@UnorthadoxDude, that is quite interesting, although being an autoflowering cultivar doesn't necessarily mean that trait isn't recessive and could very well produce photoperiodic offspring once in a while, in the same way a feminized seed is not guaranteed to be a female. Like you said, nothing is fixed in life, not even an autoflowering mother producing 100% autoflowering dominant seeds.
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedsweek 0
Thank you very much for sharing a new diary with one of our strains. ๐Ÿ˜Š We hope you enjoy it. ๐Ÿ˜‹ Sweet smokes, - Apolo
resimax
resimax
@Sweet_Seeds, Thank for the kind words as well! I have never seen a seed sprout with so much vigor before. In about 24 hours 2/2 seeds were fully cracked with radicles (white tails) protruding and ready to be potted, and once done, they stood up several inches tall overnight with the lights off. Amazing genetics, and I heard it only gets better from here!
DEVS_GENETICS
DEVS_GENETICSweek 11
Frosty!
Deckerno
Deckernoweek 7
I just watched you first grow, and that's so interesting and complete ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿผ I'm really happy to read you ! I wish you a good luck for all ๐Ÿค—
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmweek 7
Keep it up its beginning to sound like you are slowly figuring things out !
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmweek 7
Not a bad looking plant at all. You are getting it !