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JT Jupetory 40"x40"x72"
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Room Type
Topping
weeks 4
Defoliation
weeks 5-12
LST
weeks 8
Perlite
Grow medium
Coco Coir
Grow medium
19 L
Pot Size
3.79 L
Watering
Grow Conditions
Week 11
Flowering
55.88
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inch
Height
12 hrs
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11+ conditions after
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resimax resimax
2 years ago
Day 70/Day 71: Wow, 70 days huh? I was expecting about 85-90 for her, but looking at her, I think she might be closer to 90-100. Still though, way over the hump now! This will be my first indoor harvest ever, and I'm pretty excited, even if she is going to have an absolutely tiny yield, she is frosty and beautiful looking already, only starting to fatten up just yesterday. Edit later the same day: Actually, I had to go back and check my logs, because I started her on a Friday. That means Thursday (yesterday) would have been the last day of her 10th week, or day 70, making TODAY day 71. Rather than going back and editing everything to be like my other diaries, today will be for Day 70 and 71. She is looking healthy as usual today. Her leaves are always looking happy, much more so than the other two plants keeping her company. Lastly, thank you everyone for the likes! I reached 1000 today. I guess my diaries aren't as horrible as I thought? I'm not very good at writing... Edit, again later the same day. I might have killed her, or at least a major part of her. Help, @LegacyMarketFarm @1882Bean @Sour_D @Roberts @Ju_Bps @Hydro_Hiebs if you can please. While moving the plant I accidentally knocked one of its 2 top main stems (was topped once), splitting it down an inch or so...not sure if I killed the branch, the whole plant, or if my hack job will help her repair herself. Should I harvest this 1 branch now, let it try to repair, or what? Thanks...so disappointing :( And yes, there was a snap. Picture 1: see it split down the middle...extends to bottom of repair job...pretty far. Picture 2, the entire branch/cola. Removed a few large fan leaves today that were blocking buds from bulking up. Day 72: Lots of growth in the last couple of days -- last night I had to do another light defoliation to give the top sugar leaves and buds the light they need. I also see considerable size and color differences in the buds over the last 2 days and especially the last 24 hours. I uploaded a few images to try to capture the light and color of the environment as best as I could, though it is still a work in progress tweaking with the settings. It's looking like she's a hairy one...those pistils...wow. Day 73: I really love this plant. I have never had such ease growing a plant before, indoor or outdoor, cannabis or not. She's continuing to bulk up those buds, with tinges of orange really shining through now. I expect her to be ready in no less than 12 days from now, but that's a minimum. I'd guess closer to 20. I pinched a sugar leaf to give it a smell for the first time today, and wow, definitely quite pleasant, but nothing like what I was expecting. It has a very sweet fruit smell; some citrus of some sort. It doesn't have any hint of cheese to it at all, yet anyway. I can definitely tell that after ripening and curing she is going to smell amazing. I am a big fan of cheeses but that's not really why I'm growing her. It was recommended to me for a beginner indoor strain, and I really cannot disagree with that at all. Day 74: She's looking excellent like always. Fertigated her and onto the next diary update... Day 77: Shortly before bed I very bravely and carefully removed her bandage from the mishap on Day 71. Everything was healed much better than I thought it would be, considering the branch was for the most part "hanging by a thread". Cannabis is such a resilient species, and this cultivar especially just will not die given my many absolute beginner mistakes. She does have a nasty looking black scar going down her stem, but the entire branches foliage is looking great a week later, with no signs of interveinal chlorosis or other early signals. She actually looks as happy as ever, and never even flinched at the whole situation. I must say, that she was able to repair that practically severed limb, and not complain about my hack job of a repair, I am quite impressed. The pipe cleaner repair job was done because it was really the only thing I could reach with one hand while the other held the plant together so it didn't fall apart.
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Grow Questions
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question 2 years ago
I really messed up my first grow. I dropped some JF22H (not feminized) in the substrate of one of the Sweet Cheese pots, as can be seen in the image. Additionally, there has been an extra one growing along with the other JF22H in their own pot. What should I do? Kill or let grow?
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Chucky324
Chucky324answered grow question 2 years ago
Hello. Interesting problem. The seed that are regular seeds will need to be sexed (looking to see what sex they are) but that only happens after the 5 week of growth. This is what I would do; The roots of these plants are only as long as the stock is tall at this point - I would dig up the regular seeds and put them in smaller pots so they can be sexed and put your fem seeds into the big fabric pots you have there. If your careful not to break the roots, the plants will recover. I like to use liquid seaweed for root stress. Once the regular seeds have been sexed you decide what you want to do. That should give you time to decide which way you want to go with your plants. Chuck.
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question 2 years ago
I have a huge problem and I have no idea what is causing it or what I should do. Please read the latest week's description for what I have been dealing with all week.
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Well, interesting! I'm assuming you've grown in coco before and know that it must be kept moist at all times, yes? And if the seedlings were lying flat on the coco, it was probably because they weren't getting the water they needed... and knowing how quickly the roots grow and how long they get, they're probably now down at the bottom of that 5 gallon pot and happy because they're in moisture... But that being said, the fabric itself should not be wet (damp is fine, wet is not). I would construct a rack of some sort to keep the pot slightly off the ground so you can give it good waterings/feedings with runoff but so they are not sitting in water all the time. Good drainage is a must! As for the 5 gallon pots - when I grew in soil (I only grow in DWC now), I would start all my seeds in the pots they were going to finish in since all I grow are autoflowers... and the 5 gallon pots were never a problem. If you're growing photos and you feel they ARE a problem (the pots), then by all means, transplant them into a smaller pot and go from there... but the Sweet Cheese sounds like it might be an autoflower (?) and they don't like to be transplanted so I'd leave her alone. Just keep your coco moist and give her good nutes... I wouldn't give just the Big Bloom, I'd also be giving some Grow Big, particularly for the stage they're in - but watch it... I've used FF nutes before and always had a problem with the Grow Big causing nitrogen toxicities and it drove me mad... so go lightly with it at first... you can always increase the dose if needed but it's easier to treat a deficiency rather than a toxicity. Good luck!
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question 2 years ago
Hi all. Very first grow here, and so many mistakes were made along the way that resulted in stunted growth. I was told photos show preflowers before the 12/12 switch, so is this correct, and can any of my photographs in week 5 be identified as male yet? Thank you!
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 2 years ago
If you take photos to about 8-10 weeks you’ll usually see female stigmas on the females.. very small and not obvious but there nonetheless. This is just a sign of sexual maturity and that they’re more or less ready to flip.. it’s not really preflower.. just an identifying factor. Your sweet cheese should be female cuz I believe sweet seeds only does feminized seeds. Not sure about the other ones you gave tho
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question 2 years ago
Can anyone identify the cause of this issue? Note that this is occurring on only a single LEAFLET of a single leaf of a single plant. No signs of eggs and it is very slowly spreading. Took 5 weeks to get this far and starting to spread to leaflet next to it with some small spots.
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Leaves. Other
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Well, it's got to be an insect of some kind as a nutrient issue or environmental issue wouldn't cause this kind of damage. I'd get some BT and spray that particular area - top and bottom of leaves - just before lights out. If it IS a leaf-chewing bug, it will take one bite, decide to have lunch elsewhere and go off and die... and BT is organic so no worries there... Good luck - that's just weird!! :-D
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question 2 years ago
Extremely oncerned about PPFD readings and my light's specs. If you are familiar with Photone and DLI for weeks of cannabis, please send me a Chat message. Getting like 100x difference than what I expected throughout this whole grow. Thanks!
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Setup. Lighting
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 2 years ago
Tbh Pal.. There really is a lot to it. Just syick with the basics for now.. There's so much info on DLI and it's different for every local and environmental conditions, RH temp.co2 and lots lots more. Get back the basics under your wing 1st.. Once your light has a ppfd of 1000uml. You should be able to get as decent bud if you do things right. As you have fast version. And she mainly young and early into the flip. May I suggest you take all leafs of the nodes, (but just leaving 2 on top of each node for drawing in energy. Heres a link that will show you how to get long colas. A longer version of what I explained: https://www.growweedeasy.com/nebulas-flowering-stage-defoliation-tutorial If you want to increase your growing time. As with my fems I use a far red 730nm after lights out and it changes the photochrome (the time it takes a fems to sleep. From 2 hrs to 5mins) meaning you get 13.hrs of sunlight and 19.4hrs of darkness + the 5-10mins it takes to put them to sleep after the far red goes out. Read this will explain it better and increase your DLI by 10-20% which might not sound like a lot. But with the defoliation I just gave you link to will all play a part in your DLI. But these are environmental conditions to improved your DLI. Any fat red 730nm.. here's a lot more on what I takes about here that will increase the time your plant spends under light. Mars hydro do a good far red + a uv that you can use together or apart. It really speeds up the time in which fems take to flip as some times it can be 7-10 takes meir seen pistils i seen mine after day 3 and she looks much further ahead. Hope this helps. If you need to ask anything about. Feel free to DM me. Enjoy your grow.
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question 2 years ago
When should I expect noticeable flowers to start forming after switching to 12/12? This strain is a photoperiodic fast-flowering strain of 7-8 weeks in bloom. It's been about 2 now, so just curious if it is typical to not see anything yet, and how long is too long. Thanks!
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Buds. Other
Other. General questions
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 2 years ago
So usually after 14 days you’d see some action but I’m thinking cuz you flipped only 30ish days into Veg could be the delay. The plant will not initiate flower until It has reached a certain sexual maturity basically - even if it’s under 12/12 that whole time. Usually it will be around day 30-45 in my experience that its mature enough to initiate flower. Hope that made sense. Interesting thing is when you have a mother plant that’s 6 months old - clones from it will trigger so quick because of the age of the plant. It’s basically the “trigger” time that’s delayed a bit cuz it’s so young. But you should be seeing signs very soon or something’s up
resimax
resimaxstarted grow question 2 years ago
How do you get proper drainage? Using them in this grow with coco/perlite and another with soil, and unless I raise them on a rack the bottom stays wet because they sit in the runoff pan. A proper pot has a raised bottom with holes below. Maybe buy a few dish drying racks? Ideas?
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Other. General questions
Setup. Other
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resimax
resimaxanswered grow question 2 years ago
@gottagrowsometime Rags? I wrote racks lol. I will just use some old fridge racks on a couple bricks or something. Thanks.
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resimax
resimaxcommentedweek 12 years ago
@GrowingGrannie Yes, very interesting, and no, this is my first grow. I do have Happy Frog myco/humic acid soil that I am starting a separate veg cycle with in solo cups under a 4ft CFL, and those plants (same strain) seem much happier. And no, there are no autos...all photos. Thanks for the tips though. I have since propped them up with a few stacks of those tiny drinking fountain plastic cups under the pots with the tent door open and large box fan blowing (not directly) into the tent in the hopes I can evaporate the water quicker without it pooling on the bottom. The plan was to give them their first micro dose of Grow Big today, but I think I would rather give it 24 hours in this new airflow configuration before I add more moisture to the mix, because the plants are not telling me to feed or water them yet (due to probably what you suspected, because the taproot is happy with the water at the bottom). Thank you very much...this is my very first grow and I wanted to use coir because 1) less bugs 2) no nutes in substrate...i wanted to learn through trial and error the nutes needed through the different periods of growth for these 2 particular strains for a while. I plan on sticking with just these until I zone in on what works good for them, and I'm sure I can apply that knowledge with some adjustments to future strains.
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGranniecommented2 years ago
@@resimax, I think your plan here is a very good one! As you go forward, just understand that growing in coco is much different than growing in soil so the two cannot be treated the same way... It does sound to me like you have at least grown SOMETHING in the past - that you're not a newbie gardener - and this is all to the good. Future reference for this silly site - there is a way to talk directly to other growers in a chat format ... there's a little paper airplane in the bottom right hand corner of your screen... (if it is green, it means you've got a message from someone). If you click on it, you can search for a grower and send them a message OR you can click on the grower's name wherever it appears and that will take you to their profile... from there, there's a "chat" button in the top right hand portion of the screen ... Good luck... I think you're off to a great start!
resimax
resimaxcommentedweek 122 years ago
@Sour_D, there's the damage. Can't believe it.
Sour_D
Sour_Dcommented2 years ago
@@resimax, amazing how resilient these plants are, looks like it'll be ok. 👊
resimax
resimaxcommentedweek 112 years ago
@LegacyMarketFarm @Grow4Releaf @Sour_D @Roberts @Ju_Bps @Hydro_Hiebs I destroyed her. Need advice please :(
Hydro_Hiebs
Hydro_Hiebscommented2 years ago
@@resimax, what happened?
resimax
resimaxcommentedweek 62 years ago
I really want this grow to be over. Too much went wrong in my first grow. My startup costs were too high and I could only afford 1 light and 1 tent. I want to setup a rotation of autoflowers so I don't have to wait so long between harvests. Unfortunately, I do not have any autoflower seeds. I have a small collection I am willing to trade for any autos. If anyone in the US is interested, send me a direct chat message and we can talk :) Thanks a lot. I am poor and would have liked a second light/tent, but that isn't going to be able to happen for quite a long time. Gotta make the wife happy and all.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommented2 years ago
@@resimax, I have a TON of photoperiods I can send you some for sure. Let me see if I can get you some freebie autoflowers to get your practice on but I got you covered for photoperiods. If you are in Canada, I got you covered for lights too. XD
Anonymous_2022
Anonymous_2022commentedweek 02 years ago
Good luck with your grow 💪
Natrona
Natronacommentedweek 62 years ago
Hi Resinus, I'm following @LegacyMarketFarm here and on you tube. He has excellent tutorials that have helped me so much.
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommentedweek 122 years ago
Happy growing, i am interested haw F1 perform over regular Photoperiod , investigating for next grow
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommented2 years ago
@@resimax, Tnx for info!
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@WhiteEdge, thank you much! I wouldn't take this as a good example. she was mistreated as my first indoor grow. that said, she will put up with anything without a flinch. good strain to grow without any fuss.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommentedweek 62 years ago
Honestly. Looking at this diary, There is a lot you did good here. Every single one of us as a grower will make mistakes each crop. The important part is to learn from it and apply that knowledge in the next harvest. There are so many variables when growing cannabis that nobody can ever be a perfect grower or have a 100% perfect crop. We hope to attain that one day but it is a never ending. journey, Your temp's are looking good for the most part, Your plants look fairly healthy. I have seen a lot worse for first time diaries. In terms of your lights, Do you have any light pulleys like sun grip light pulleys ? Or even string you can use to lower the lights down closer to the plants a bit ? You can get PAR app's for your phone and read the PAR your plants receive from your lights fairly accurately with them. If you get the lights close enough even 100W LED's will do work, It is just about getting them within range to deliver their PAR. The large gaps between nodes & lower count of nodes tells me their lacking light intensity first and foremost. I think that is something to focus on that will yield great results for a minor change. Anything you need help with just shoot me a DM man.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommented2 years ago
@@resimax, I would say they are perked up a bit for sure but I think they will need some more time with the proper conditions in the tent to really begin to show noticeable growth. It is still an improvement and they for sure look happier.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommented2 years ago
@@@resimax, Can you send me the manufacturers recommendations ? What PAR is it suggesting to give them at that height ? This is the best tool for calculating your plants DLI, Daily light integral. https://www.cannabislighting.info/?week=3&duration=18&ppfd=840&step=1&embed=false
Hydro_Hiebs
Hydro_Hiebscommentedweek 112 years ago
She's a beast she will get past this. After everything she's been through. She's not backing out now 👍🏻
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@Hydro_Hiebs, haha, thanks for the encouragement. She has been through more stress than any plant I have ever grown. If any plant would do it, it's definitely her. I will watch this branch for leaf curl and monitor its health for a possible early branch harvest. Thanks!
BBhykiem1
BBhykiem1commentedweek 102 years ago
Looking good
BBhykiem1
BBhykiem1commented2 years ago
@@resimax,hey that's okay, mine was 20 gr dry I believe, be proud you made it this far, alot of people don't, your first time smoking your own stuff is going to be awesome, I remember thinking, wow I grew this?! Like I really did this? Brings it to a entire new level. your almost there keep it up
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@BBhykiem1, thanks! It'll be a tiny harvest, but my first, and I'm excited at how she looks so far :)
Tom_Jay
Tom_Jaycommentedweek 72 years ago
Happy growing 😇
Tom_Jay
Tom_Jaycommented2 years ago
@@resimax, 😁👍🏻
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@Tom_Jay, thanks, I'm having a lot of fun for sure! :)
mcflow
mcflowcommentedweek 112 years ago
Looking good!
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@mcflow, thank you, bud!
Hydro_Hiebs
Hydro_Hiebscommentedweek 102 years ago
She's looking good! 😁💨
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@Hydro_Hiebs, thank you! my first baby girl and already looking frosty with a while to go yet 😍
PersonalSmok3s
PersonalSmok3scommentedweek 72 years ago
Plants are looking lush man, doing a good job 🌱💚
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@PersonalSmok3s, thank you so much!
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDudecommentedweek 72 years ago
Hey bud, love your grow. It's really nice to see someone else at the beginning of their journey, but really into it, like I am. :) Don't despair about this schedule, sure it is a fast flower, but the plant knows, and you can choose when to cut it. 7-8 weeks is not set in stone. This is a photoperiod plant and should therefore be quite resilient. If you want to see a plant that has no right to be doing what it is, take a look at "Karen" in my diaries. She was starved and under weak light for 3 weeks after I solved the problems she recovered and exploded... and she's an auto with a supposedly "fixed" schedule; nothing is fixed when it comes to life.
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@UnorthadoxDude, that is quite interesting, although being an autoflowering cultivar doesn't necessarily mean that trait isn't recessive and could very well produce photoperiodic offspring once in a while, in the same way a feminized seed is not guaranteed to be a female. Like you said, nothing is fixed in life, not even an autoflowering mother producing 100% autoflowering dominant seeds.
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedscommentedweek 02 years ago
Thank you very much for sharing a new diary with one of our strains. 😊 We hope you enjoy it. 😋 Sweet smokes, - Apolo
resimax
resimaxcommented2 years ago
@Sweet_Seeds, Thank for the kind words as well! I have never seen a seed sprout with so much vigor before. In about 24 hours 2/2 seeds were fully cracked with radicles (white tails) protruding and ready to be potted, and once done, they stood up several inches tall overnight with the lights off. Amazing genetics, and I heard it only gets better from here!
DEVS_GENETICS
DEVS_GENETICScommentedweek 112 years ago
Frosty!
Deckerno
Deckernocommentedweek 72 years ago
I just watched you first grow, and that's so interesting and complete 💪🏼 I'm really happy to read you ! I wish you a good luck for all 🤗
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommentedweek 72 years ago
Keep it up its beginning to sound like you are slowly figuring things out !
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommentedweek 72 years ago
Not a bad looking plant at all. You are getting it !