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Prilyfe13 Prilyfe13
2 years ago
February 28, 2023 Skywalker OG Day 38 Height: 25" DLI: 42 Wedding Glue Day 31 Height: 7" DLI: 25 So far this week, the focus will be on Wedding Glue. Her height is still a bit of a concern. However, she hasn't started flowering yet so maybe. Also, with no pre flower means more opportunity to grow. She is still super healthy though. Lush, green and sturdy. Skywalker OG is also looking fantastic! She nearly doubled in size last week. She's almost in full swing flower. Another day or two. She's filling out and has beautiful big fan leaves. The top cola looks like it's setting up to be massive. Still not doing any training unless I have to. Grow System Environment: Temp: 71.8° RH: 53.9% VPD: 1.20 kPa March 1, 2023 I had to make some light height changes and had to put the Wedding Glue on a box to keep the DLI on point. Skywalker OG was starting to push her top away from the light. Fixed immediately. So today I'm looking at a beautiful flowering Skywalker OG. She is still stretching, but starting to slow down a bit. Wedding Glue is still short. But after discussing her with the FastBuds Team, we decided she has to be an indica-dominant phenotype. She hasn't stretched at all, but the side branches are all pushing up to the top of the canopy. So she may level her own canopy without any training. I will definitely have to defoliate. She also just started showing her sex. So I expect some sort of stretch to start any day. Let's hope for a successful stretch. Light Intensity: Skywalker OG: DLI: 48 Wedding Glue: DLI: 26 Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.2° RH: 55.8% VPD: 1.17 kPa March 2, 2023 Skywalker OG is still stretching. She looks great! I accidentally snapped a large fan leaf off today. Oops. Wedding Glue grew about an inch last night. Still super short, but starting to grow. The nice part is that almost all of the branches are at the top of the canopy. Light Intensity: Skywalker OG: DLI 48 Wedding Glue: DLI 26 Grow System Environment: Temp: 73.1° RH: 55.6% VPD: 1.21 kPa March 3, 2023 Today, we are looking at more stretch from Skywalker. She is also getting really thirsty. Taking in an easy liter a day. Wedding Glue is still short, but green as can be. She isn't drinking much yet. But she is still in veg mode. She did however start showing her sex a tiny bit. Based on the answers from my stretching issue, the main focus was light height. The only problem with that is the light is already far enough away with a DLI of 25. Perfect for her age and should help her stretch. So thank you all for helping out. I do have a couple of comments for those of you who are curious. Skywalker OG is a 75% Indica. So the answer I chose was the most sensible one. Less is more. I figure if my setup is completely dialed in, then the plant is just a bit slower than Skywalker. Per the advice, I'll leave her alone and let her do her thing. After speaking with FastBuds, the only training I am going to do is mild defoliation. I'll probably only clip the main fan leaves. They cover the most canopy. Light Intensity: Skywalker OG: DLI: 48 Wedding Glue: DLI: 25 Grow System Environment: Temp: 73.1° RH: 55.2% VPD: 1.22 kPa Update: I decided since Skywalker OG is in full flower now, to defoliate the main fan leaves and 2 branches off the lowest node. I stuck them in root riot plugs and put them in the gemination system to see if they clone. Haha. It most likely won't work, but why not give it a shot? Maybe I'll get a tiny little cola that would have otherwise been larf. March 4, 2023 Both ladies are looking great! Wedding Glue is starting to grow up a bit more. She is certainly lush and full, but not quite in the pre-flower stage. Just barely. Skywalker OG is looking great! Her bud production is fantastic and her stretch apparently isn't complete yet. I'll be starting her on Tiger Bloom in 2 days. Her DLI is pretty high though. However, the majority of the plant is around 45, but the top is closer to 65. Not sure what to do about that, I can lower the intensity down to 60% or raise the light higher. I'll see how she's looking in a couple of days. Maybe it's perfectly fine. Grow System Environment: Temp: 71.6° RH: 55.3% VPD: 1.15 kPa Update: Skywalker OG got a full defoliation today. She is just ending her stretch and I really wanted to get rid of a bunch of problem leaves. Wedding Glue is showing more of her sex and pistils are starting to get longer at the base of the top branches. Currently, she has a total of 8 nodes with a top. The branches are almost all level with the canopy. Taking out the main fan leaves should do the trick and open up the canopy nicely. Maybe tomorrow for that. I'll see how she grows during her rest period. March 5, 2023 Skywalker OG took to her defoliation perfectly. All done. I took off the 2 lowest bud sites today as well. Everything looks great with her. Wedding Glue is so bushy and squat. So she got a light defoliation today. Just the main fan leaves and 2 that were touching the container rim. Also took off the lowest node. Still not much room to get in there, but the branches are all exposed now. Now, about these clones. They are seriously still alive and standing up. I have some nursery pots I can use with them to see what happens. Highly entertaining. Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.8° RH: 54.5% VPD: 1.22 kPa March 6, 2023 Took a couple more leaves off of Skywalker OG today. Just the ones directly covering bud sites. She's doing fantastic! Thirsty, happy and really nice bud formations. So Wedding Glue filled right back in overnight from her defoliation. I had to take a couple more leaves off of her today. There was moisture getting trapped between them. No big deal. She recoverd super fast last night, so I'm definitely not worried. She also has a perfect naturally level canopy. The branches are even pointing out to the sides. She has also filled up the zone she is in. Now she just needs to grow up. Stretch hasn't really started yet, but I'm pretty sure this was the perfect time to defoliate. Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.8° RH: 54.9% VPD: 1.21 kPa
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Grow Questions
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Anyone have any advice on what mix ratio I should use with Fox Farm Happy Frog and Ocean Forest with Autoflowers? I've only ever used living soil. I also have Advanced Nutrients PH perfect base nutrients and Lotus Nutrients if needed. Tiger Bloom too. Thanks!
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Setup. Substrates
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greenAF
greenAFanswered grow question 2 years ago
I have heard plenty of ppl doing a 50/50 blend, i used all HF for my two grows so far, was planing doing a 50/50 for next...
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Does anyone have a suggested insight for grow light height? AC Infinity IONBOARD 240w LED. 100% AC Infinity Grow Tent 3x3x6 Autoflower Perpetual Harvest: 4 Week Cycle Plants: 2 Flowering and 2 Veg. Schedule: 18/6. Temp: Day 76° Night 67° Average 74.3° RH: Average 52% Thanks
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Setup. Lighting
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Grow4Releaf
Grow4Releafanswered grow question 2 years ago
Best to get a light meter. Photone or tentbuddy. Not sure what works on what phone but look into a meter for sure . Tentbuddy gives u outlines for veg and flower along with a VPD Calculator. It's hard to just say "lift it 24in above" the light meter will get u in the best range.
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Why is my Wedding Glue Auto so short? She's healthy as can be. The issue here is that she is in day 30 with zero signs of upward growth and only 5.5" tall. Can I fix this somehow? Huge leaves though. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Look at the diary to see.
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Plant. Too short
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 2 years ago
She is growing slowly.. But, I can see she's only around pushing up her 5 or so set of nodes. She will get bigger. She's just slow going atm.. had the same thing with my lemon pie and took her ages to flip. She'll put on most of her height during pre flower. Idk her traits but she looks mainly indica with her big fat leafs. Indicas grow much lower and have more girt. Sativas grow higher that have less girt. But, sometimes plants especially autos are unpredictable. Wouldnt worry about it to much. Good growing
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
After much research, I couldn't find anything on how to properly handle a really short plant. Does anyone have a thought about this? Or how to induce extra stretch? This is for documentation and research for this particular grow situation. Please see week 5 entries. Thanks all!
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Plant. Too short
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 2 years ago
Just don’t. Not with your set up. It will stretch upon initiation of flower. It’s an auto, those ruderalis genetics are like that
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Looking for suggestions and opinions on "light defoliation". What percentage of leaves are removed during a light defoliation? This is for my short bushy Wedding Glue. Should I just remove the biggest fan leaves and call it a day? Thanks all!
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 2 years ago
No need for defol right now. You’re at a critical point you don’t want to hinder anything. You have a great even canopy. Let her be.
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Looking for popular opinion. My Skywalker OG Autoflower is a bit leafy right now. Nothing crazy see pics. Should I trim some or leave her alone?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 2 years ago
I'd say leave her be my guy. You need those leaves for photosynthesis. To make those nice beautiful flowers! Besides she doesn't really have an abundance of leaves from what I can see. I hope this helps.
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
I've always wondered this and never asked. Should all cannabis plants go through senescence? I only ask because I've only ever had 1 plant that went through it. Am I harvesting too early? Or does it even matter? These are autoflower grows.
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Other. Other
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Growstick
Growstickanswered grow question 2 years ago
If you're nailing the nutrition, don't do a pre-harvest flush, and the genetics don't support it, then there's a good chance you won't see senescence and there's nothing wrong with that. As long as you're happy with the trichomes on your grow, then no one can you tell it's the wrong time to harvest. There's a lot of debate about "flushing" and what it can or can't do for your plant (including a lot of recent research on this). Many top professional farms don't flush at all and as a result they see little to no senescence in their crop. That said, I always flush - probably due to habit and/or bro-science - and I do always see a "fade" as a result. I've no way or telling you if this actually improved the smoke or quality though. Latest research suggests that it doesn't really help, but that probably won't stop me doing it every harvest! 😂
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
I normally don't ask more than one question a week, but I believe I'm at a critical point with my wedding glue. She hasn't grown at all in the last 2 days at 14.5". I haven't defoliated yet because of stretch, but I think she's done. Should I defoliate or wait a few more days?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 2 years ago
Yeah bud, I'd say it's definitely a good time to defoliate that lady. Shes quite the bush.
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Another question?! Anyway, what the hell is this browning? I think it's light burn. But why is it lower too? PH? Magnesium? Nitrogen toxicity? Par: 1300 PPFD Fox Farm tiger bloom 7 ml/gal. Fish Shit 3 ml/gal. See diary for environmental conditions. Thanks for the help. Again.
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Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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Growstick
Growstickanswered grow question 2 years ago
That is helpful @Prilyfe13. I think we can definitely narrow it down to two things - a lack of Calcium (which matches your description of brown dots progressively getting worse and becoming more blocky), and possible light burn. If the issue is only affecting the very top of the plant nearest the light, then I believe you may have hit the nail on the head with light burn. Looking at your photo dated 19th March, the issue wasn't present in it's current form then, but I can see the sides of the leaves starting to curl up. This is THE classic light burn symptom. It begins on the sides of the leaves (rather than the tips, like nutrient burn) and then progresses inwards. But, you've obviously described a classic calcium deficiency as well, as I said... so perhaps it's six of one and half-dozen of the other! When it comes to living soil, I am certainly no expert, but my understanding is that you don't generally need to add too much in the way of nutrients as this is mostly in the soil already. Hopefully someone with more experience than me in this field will be able to help you... That said, if you don't get any more expert advice, I would probably err on the side of caution and raise/dim the lights (as you have done) and then maybe incorporate some Cal-Mag into the next few feeds, just to be sure it's getting enough. I don't think I've ever seen calcium or magnesium toxicity myself, so if you're using the small recommended doses, I can't see that it would cause any harm even if it doesn't need it. RE: Fish shit - I don't think this is the cause. So long as you're only using the recommended dosages, it should be fine. RE: an equipment list - don't even get us started or it will never end lol. All you technically need is air, water, soil and the sun... that doesn't explain why my spare room looks like the inside of Area 51's weapons testing facility. 😂 PH and TDS/EC meters are great, but I managed to grow successfully for years without them - particularly growing in soil which is much more forgiving. Its the same with basically every growing accessory I own. The main thing, to me, is managing the growing environment: keeping humidity high in veg and low in flower, keeping temps in the ideal range in the day and at night, etc. Those are the hardest things to do as you might be fighting against building itself, weather and geography etc, which are not battles that can be easily won. In future, if you want to keep your plants smaller and spread out the canopy more to avoid light burn and increase the PPFD or what would otherwise be lower branches, I would recommend that you start practicing LST or SCROG'ing, but that's more a technique than an accessory - other than the plant ties you'll need to make LST'ing easy. 😁 Good luck!
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Week 10 question for Wedding Glue. I know there is a lot of controversy over trimming autoflowers. Let's say it's semi safe. She's super bushy again. Should I do another defoliation? OR wait another few days? I'm worried about timing. I have very little left. Thanks all!
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Natrona
Natronaanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hi, I follow @LegacyMarketFarm here and on you tube. He indicated there should be final defoliation 3rd week after flowers start. This forces energy to all remaining bud sites. I did this with my plants to keep down any mold issues since I couldn't control humidity. .I will say, however, there are many different thoughts on the 3rd defoliation. Happy growing and have fun 👍
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
I ordered an auto feed base kit from AC Infinity. It comes with built in water level indicators. Does anyone know where I can get a wireless probe to replace the standard indicator? I can check the levels remotely. Like a low high level indicator or a float? Thanks!
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Feeding. Automatic systems
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question 2 years ago
check yard irrigation brands? orbit, rainbird, dig, or maybe an amazon search to find possibilities, even if not bought from there. there are definitely options out there, i do not know if they all function on the same protocol (plug n play accross brands? standardizations?)
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
So I have a bottom feed wick system. Works great, but now my plant is dry on the bottom and seems to have slowed down to a trickle of water uptake. What does this mean? The soil is also drying out pretty quickly as well. See Diary for further details. What do I do? Thanks!
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Feeding. Automatic systems
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
If this was my grow, I would be watering from the top since she's not taking it up from the wicking and is drying out.... the last thing you want is for your entire plant to turn crispy. Water until there's some runoff and then wait to see if the runoff is soaked back up into the pot - if it is, give more water until it stops soaking it back up and then throw away the excess... Good luck!
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
What do I do with this overly leafy plant? I'm pretty sure the foliage caused very airy buds and tops. What should I do here? Major defoliation before 48 hours of dark? Leave it, cut the branches off when harvested and run a dry trim or with this should I run wet trim? Thanks!
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Leaves. Too many
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massivetids
massivetidsanswered grow question 2 years ago
This plant is looking beautiful! I would not recommend to defoliate this late in the growing phase. Just make sure that there will be enough moving air around this plant to prevent fungals. The only advice that I can give to you for this plant is to cut down the nutrients a bit. You are giving too much. 75% from what you are giving now is more then enough till harvest.
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Good luck with your grow 💪
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Happy growing 🌱
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Lungboiweek 5
Good luck with the grow bud!! Both girls are looking lovely, can't wait to see how they turn out🙏
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@Lungboi, "bud" hahaha. I see whatcha did there.
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@Lungboi, SAME! HAHAHA Thanks!
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Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
UnkleSkunk
UnkleSkunkweek 5
complimenti per il diario vorrei riuscire a scrivere cosi tante informazioni come fai tu ..ma sono pigro 😅
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@Prilyfe13,invece io solo sulle piante mi ricordo tutto :P
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@UnkleSkunk, Thanks! I have a memory issue, so details details. Lol
mcflow
mcflowweek 7
Looks great! Good luck growing🍀
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Lovely 💚
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Seems like there coming along good my friend 👍Happy Growing