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Juschiln420 Juschiln420
2 years ago
They are still not too happy with me... Not liking the nutrient strength I choose again.. So after 24hrs of just ph water and 1/4 strength hydroguard. No change I thought they would appreciate just water and a root stimulate. But no change in root or plant mass. Looking like they are very stunted from nutrient burn. So moving forward I went with same strength as the 1st feeding that they liked. But I did it in a hurry before work and realized after the fact that I put that same amount I put before but didn't account for lowering the water level to 3.5 gal from 4gal. So end up being slightly stronger then before. I did add 0.5ml of hydroguard to each bucket. Also added 0.5 of bud candy to each bucket. But hoping they work with me fingers crossed. 4/12/2023 5.8/72Β°F/221(Left rear) 5.8/72Β°F/227(Middle front) 5.8/72Β°F/214(right rear) No sign of transitioning to flower yet. 4/14/23 Colorado Cookies recovered and jumped like a inch looking alot better! Overall Height 3.5" And I noticed that there was some growth in the root zone. But noticed there is something going on with the upper leafs. Runtz Seems to be recovering but still a little rough. Overall Height 2" But I did notice the roots mass did not change and they still appear to have the brown tint and seems to have gotten slightly worse toward the bottom of 6"net basket. I believe that's contributing to the slow recovery. Still looking alot better tho. Banana Purple Punch seems to have bearly changed at all. There's very slight growth in center. No change to root mass at all. Overall Height 1.5" Found some very helpful information on measuring EC instead of ppm and how to monitor EC and Ph. So will be doing this moving forward. I'm going to redo Banana's bucket to exactly what I gave the 1st time she was happy but this time accounting for the .5 gal change in water level. I'm also looking into if I can use the hydroguard at full strength on nutrient burned autos since its not a nutrient for the plant. But I need to fight the brown roots in runtz tonight. See if I can't get all three happy! And save this grow to a more acceptable outcome. Stats 4/14/2023 6.25Ph/72Β°F/222ppm(runtz) 6.33Ph/72Β°F/218ppm(banana) 6.28Ph/72Β°F/215ppm Cookies I added 1ml total hydroguard to all and added .05 total calmag to all and ph to 5.8 4/15 I changed the water on all buckets. raised the water level back to 4 gal on Banana since it has the smallest root mass. And put full strength hydroguard and full strength rapid start in all buckets amd ph to 5.8 and left it for 24 hrs. I made a floral spray of armor si at 0.33ml to full spray bottle. Wet em down good. Twice today. 4/16 I noticed Banana's leaf tips began to droup a little. So lowered water back to 3.5 gal and mixed the nutrients for 3 gal to be safe and leave ppm for cal mag and bud candy without nutrient burn. Added 0.5 cal mag and 0.5 bud candy. I trimmed all the burned leaf tips off, so I can see if and when it burns again. And since it was the best my test has looked yet I took a video and some pictures. But still need to figure out whats going on with Colorado cookies. Has spotty yellowing. Thought maybe light burn. So checked and raised like a inch or so. But there leafs below that are almost fully yellow. Like nutrient deficiency. Trying to read her but not getting it yet. gavw them a spray of armor si. 4/17 ph to 5.8 bucket stats. Sprayed with armor si 6.1/74Β°F/200ppm/425uscm/0.85EC(Runtz) 6.3/72Β°F/207ppm/440uscm/0.88EC(Banana) 6.0/74Β°F/210ppm/446uscm/0.89EC(cookies) Thinking about LST cookies and pull top down. But want to address the yellowing 1st. 4/18 I changed the water in buckets to just water with 50ml hydrogen peroxide 3% to 3.5 gal water and left it for 3 hrs. During this 3 hrs I turned both fans off and made a foliar spray with 0.30 ml gh flora trio and 0.25 cal mag and sprayed them down and turned the light off for 3 hrs. So after the 3 hrs peroxide treatment. I changed water out with fresh water and did my nutrient differently. I got the EC of my tap water whixh was between 0.19 and 0.23 between the buckets. Then I added cal mag to 0.5EC And added nutrients base and additions to a EC of 1.0. Then I added 4ml hydroguard to 3.5gal. And ph to 5.8 Banana 0.19EC 3.5ml cal mag 3ml GH Flora Trio 1.5ml Bud Candy 1.5ml Rapid Start 0.25ml GH Flora Macro 4ml Hydroguard 7.4ph 242ppm 517uscm 1.0 EC Cookies 0.23 EC 3.1ml cal mag 3.1ml GH Flora Trio 1.5ml Bud Candy 1.5ml Rapid Start 0.40ml GH Flora Macro 0.42ml GH Flora Gro 0.25ml GH Bloom 4ml Hydroguard Ph 7.3 235ppm 500uscm 1.0EC Runtz 0.22EC 3.2ml Cal mag 3ml GH Flora Trio 1.5ml Bud Candy 1.5ml Rapid Start 0.25ml GH Flora Macro 0.40ml GH Flora Gro 0.25ml GH Flora Bloom 4ml Hydroguard 7.4ph 235ppm 500uscm Ph all to 5.8 That was last night at 11:30pm This morning at 5:20am stats 4/19/2023 5.9/74Β°F/238ppm/506uscm/1.0 EC(Runtz) 5.9/73Β°F/232ppm/493uscm/0.98 EC(Banana) 6.0/74Β°F/232ppm/493uscm/0.98EC(Cookies) Ph To 5.8
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Grow Questions
Juschiln420
Juschiln420started grow question 2 years ago
What causes foam in a hydrobucket? Read maybe too much air in buckets. Turned down air pump. no change. How to combat? Using OMRI CERTIFIED ORGANIC nutrients just started grow, moving week old seedlings to Hydrobuckets and 24hrs after mixing fresh nutrients got foam in buckets
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Juschiln420
Juschiln420answered grow question 2 years ago
Contacted Advanced Nutrients about if foam in a bucket is normal from their Nutrients and got this from them "With organics in hydro you may need to change the reservoir more frequently, the foam itself isn't going to harm the plants and is a byproduct of running organics in such a bubbly system with an air stone and such. In general, organics are not as reservoir friendly over time as mineral based nutrients, this is due to the biological activity and lack of preservatives. It is doable however as long as your are prepared for the challenge. Some tips for longevity are inline filters and air bleed valves, etc." Reached out to Hydrobuckets to see what they thought. If they have experience with this and advice. And got this in response from them "Some products will cause the solution to foam a little bit. Hmm. It must be to do with the nutrients. I’m sure it’s fine. You could inquire with Advanced and see what they think. I will sometimes get foam with a Chitosal product but never with base nutrients I run as many bubble as possible so that shouldn’t be the issue Hmm. I’ve always wanted to grow organically in DWC but have never found a product that works."
Juschiln420
Juschiln420started grow question 2 years ago
Can anyone help me in the right direction on what the plant is telling me she needs. I'm getting yellowing on lower leafs and spotty yellowing on upper leafs. I thought maybe light burn for spotty yellowing and raised light a few inched with no change. I appreciate the help!
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 2 years ago
Are you running a cal mag? You need one. Your nutrition is extremely light. I am curious to what the roots look like? Are they slimy. Does the Reservoir stink bad? What is your ph doing in 24 hours? Going up or down? I do dwc. Hit me up in dm so I don't miss your message.
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Juschiln420
Juschiln420week 2
So I went thru all my nutrient bottles from the whole line of OG Organics and set pictures of all the bottles and what they looked like. And got a totally different response then I did the 1st time. Now I didn't send pictures the 1st time and I did the second time which included the 2 with what I thought was stuff growing in the nutrient bottles. So anyhow this is the response I got from Advanced Nutrients about if it was normal for the nutrients to look like it did. And of I should send them back for a exchange if they were questionable. This was in response to pictures of 2 nutrient bottles with what looked like stuff growing in it. "The product looks good, the tiny stringy bits are due to the lack of preservatives in organic products, however should not cause any problems whatsoever." This was in response to a pictures of the inside of lid and top of seal with hole in middle and stuff leaked out hole slightly "not a problem here,Β  the bottles have a vent in the cap to allow for expansion/contraction,Β  it looks like this bottle was upsidedown at some point." This was in response to a picture of the base nutrient bottles having build up on sides at opening "100% fine, just give it a good (emphasis on shaking hard) shake, looks normal." This was in response to another picture of build up on in side of bottle. "100% fine,Β  as always with the organics, shake hard" This was in response to build up inside bottle "Looks good" This was in response to stuff on seal and inside bottle. "100% fine,Β  this is a product that definitely needs to be shaken hard" So I guess the brown foam was not from nutrients being bad. Just wanted to add the response from manufacturer. I'll include pictures i sent to them
Juschiln420
Juschiln420week 4
On colorado cookies I'm getting slight yellowing on the exterior edge of the leafs. What causes that. Would a Humidifier right next to it with mon ph tap water in It cause this? Its the only one that has it.
DeepWaterGrower
DeepWaterGrowerweek 1
Good luck mate! 🌱
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@DeepWaterGrower, Thanks Man!
resimax
resimaxweek 1
Good luck and happy growing!
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@@resimax, Appreciate It Bro!
DWCpaqy
DWCpaqyweek 14
Do you have 2500 ppm in your water? If so you need to change it and take 1/3 of the nutrients. Max 1500, but in your stage is should be around 1000 ppm. Nice grow πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘Œ
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@DWCpaqy, Well, I've been adding feeding every week. So my EC is alot higher then 5.0 and the plants are happy. So until I figure out how to keep them happy and not add a full feeding every week and not change resivor every feeding. Then I'm stay to course. I did refresh resivors just to get EC back under 5.0. But I always add at the bottom of my grow updates a link to my excel file that I keep track of my ppm, ec, water temps, how much was drank in 24hr,. Check it out. But I've been up to 12 EC and plantsvare happy and no the solution in the bucket is not mud lol. I have to add 2L or close to it every day. I'm trying to figure out without changing bucket water but twice a grow how to not have ec higher then 5.0 and not have a unhappy plant. here is the most current copy here: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AmTQ-7u9iyH6kDFcBT1QhRk7ttv4
DWCpaqy
DWCpaqy
@Juschiln420, I have the same problem now. New fresh water 220 pmm with nutrient 950 ppm waited 2 days 1500 ppm and added 5 liter water and now is 1800 ppm. And I think is salt from the nutrients, going to flush to see if it's the problem.
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@DWCpaqy, So I've been adding full feed every week. And only opting to change resivor water 2 times a grow. Once at switch from veg to flower and once when flushing. So at 800ppm a feeding it goes over 1500ppm in 2 feedings. So of I don't add more nutrients even tho the ppm is at 2000ppm the plant will have deficiencies. So how does one not add more nutrients but high ppm but not have a plant with deficiencies? That's what I don't understand.
yan402
yan402week 20
Enjoy your harvest πŸ‘Œβ€οΈ by the way TA and GHE are the same, it's a rebranding of names.
yan402
yan402
@Juschiln420,πŸ™β€οΈ
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@yan402,Thanks man!!!!! And thanks for letting me know!
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 20
Nice buds growmie :) We really appreciate you sharing your grow experience and hope that you enjoyed our Banana Purple Punch Auto. Have a good one
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@Fast_Buds, Thanks For The Great Strain!!! Much Appreciated!!! I already bought more seeds to try this one again in future!!!! Appreciated you have a good one!
DutchPassion_Official
DutchPassion_Officialweek 2
GL πŸ’ͺ and have fun growing mate! 😎
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@DutchPassion_Official, Thanks, I'm Really looking forward to completing my 1st grow with such great strains! I Appreciate You!
DeepWaterGrower
DeepWaterGrowerweek 2
Hey man, good idea to change nutrients line to mineral. I love dwc!
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@DeepWaterGrower, Thanks man! My goal is to figure out what I missed and master organic dwc. Trying to figure out if it was from bad nutrients and stuff growing in them. Or if I overlooked something else. But I'm definitely staying with DWC for sure! But I will be going to organic DWC. I'm a medical user and after surfing around to different dispensary I found that I perfer organic flower. Mainly because I was tired of getting stuff from synthetic grown dispensaries and it would look good smell, and smell good but taste like a jar of chemicals. And when I went to a organic place never happened. So I go to a organic dispensary and want to grow organically in hydroponics. I know its mainly uncharted territory. But I don't care. I don't mind the unbeaten path because it makes for a spectacular journey.
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 1
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@love_2_grow, Thanks Mann!
Tweezer
Tweezerweek 20
Nice garden brother, enjoy your harvest!
SmokieMcPot
SmokieMcPotweek 2
Can't go wrong with a 40+ yr old formula. Currently using the same, and will prob always use it. Everything's in there a plant needs to thrive (macro/micros). You CAN sweeten it with additionals, but ya dont need 12 add ons just to make a full system. Goodluck with your grow
DoughHead
DoughHeadweek 0
Tried helping ya out with some likes as well, almost doubled them for ya lol. Good luck on your next run!
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@@DoughHead, Right!!! I was thinking same thing!!! πŸ€˜πŸ€˜πŸ€™
DoughHead
DoughHead
@Juschiln420, good luck growmie, I really hope it pays off for ya with fire product. Mixing DWC "known for huge yields but lacking terps and flavor" AND Organics "known for all the terps" Will undoubtedly be awesomeness Goodluck!
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@@@DoughHead, WOW, Well I Appreciate Ya Bro!!! Thanks man, I got a 100% organic line to try out and I got another line that has organic additives !! So big things coming !!! Dwc organics!
Lungboi
Lungboiweek 4
Happy growing bud! You might be right about your plants being a little stunted but don't worry just keep doing your best to figure them our individually, I had all of my girls stunted like yours through the first couple of weeks due to some mistakes from my side and missing some key things like Hydroguard, but now she's looking much better and has grown much bigger than I had dared hope when she wasn't doing well! I have a diary on one of my girls if you want to check it out for some encouragement! Best of luck, and I'll be keeping an eye on your diary!
Lungboi
Lungboi
@Juschiln420, What's up man! I was just wondering if you check your EC and PH values daily? And if so, how are they looking? Are PH stable or rising or falling and same question for your EC?
Lungboi
Lungboi
@Juschiln420, Of course man, and I bet they'll make the come back if you keep working on them!
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@Lungboi, Thanks Man! I will definitely check yours out man! Fingers crossed mine make a come back too! I'm soo looking forward to a come back!!! Appreciate ya!
nerdz
nerdzweek 14
Hey man. 2500(5.0EC) is absolutely psycho for DWC. You should be at max 1200 and that's at peak week around week 5 flower. In addition, you're on autoflowers which don't need as much food as photos either, so you need to take that into account. Rule of thumb is hydroponics feed is ~70-75% of the recommended top feeding strength, and sometimes they have a chart specific to hydroponics. I really don't think many nutrients will recommend even close to 2500ppm even for top feeding/drain to waste, that's a wild number. Also you can take a look at all my journals. I use autopots which is similar to DWC, as far as feed strength goes. I usually cap max at 1150(2.3EC) with photoperiods and with autos I usually capped at 900-950ppm and usually got 1.5 to almost 2 pounds dry from 4 autos. Less is more sometimes. If I were you I'd mix the ratios from your nutrients like usual, then dilute it down to 900ppm @ ~6ph. Maybe 800, since they are past peak week. Good luck man..if you got any questions feel free.
nerdz
nerdz
@Juschiln420, Ah okay! I was like whoa that water must look like mud! Good to hear and excuse the long winded rant, just looking out. Good luck, following
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@nerdz, Hello. I think I filled it out wrong. I put the current ppm not the ppm each feeding. I'm at 800ppm a feeding. But I appreciate you pointing ting that out. Because I agree if I was feeding at 3500 a feeding that would be insane. But I'm just adding to the bucket each feeding, instead of dumping every week and running fresh water each feeding. I appreciate all help and advice. Thanks again
Saint
Saintweek 12
Have fun growing ! I got my very first DWC running right now too. Be sure to check πŸ˜‹
Saint
Saint
@Juschiln420, Appreciate your attention Brother πŸ™πŸ’šπŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ€œπŸ€› Sure you did ! Every next grow is always better β™₯️ Never Stop growing Magic πŸ†
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@Saint, Thanks man. I think I got them turned around pretty decently. And man your dwc grow is looking amazing!
DoughHead
DoughHeadweek 20
Hopefully you didn't ruin it and can have more then one bud to try lol. Fingers crossed you can save it!
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@@DoughHead, Thanks man!! I really hope it's saveable too!!!
DWCpaqy
DWCpaqyweek 11
Love your setup! Can you control temperature in buckets?
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@DWCpaqy, Thanks man! I wanted to get a legit setup. I like it! And no not yet but ordered a device to track the bucket temps waiting for it to come it. But I did double up on the foam insulation i put around the buckets.
highdro_wfh
highdro_wfhweek 10
Thanks for all you've done in the diary. Gives me some help as a first time grower with a similar setup!
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@highdro_wfh, Hello, Heck yeah bro! Glad to help! I try and keep as much data as I can. So if something goes horribly wrong I can go back with photos and a good record to figure out the mistakes. I'll check out your diary. If u have questions hit me up on Instagram messenger. Happy Growing Buddy!
thesparebr
thesparebrweek 3
Nice looking plants! You went all out on the first one, so bravo. I just stared DWC too and am really liking it so far. Keeping an eye on your diary.
Juschiln420
Juschiln420
@thesparebr, Hell yeah bro! I'm just getting started. Yeah I dabbled in growing like 8 to 10 years ago and did a few diy hydroponic and lighting setups in a closet. And I wanted to get a actual tent and a legit grow light and see what i could do. I know I'm going to make a few mistakes. I did a ebb and flow before. So 1st time dwc But looking forward to getting the hang of it and growing my own dank dense nugs!