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OkieJim OkieJim
6 years ago
This week was a walk in the park. Just feed them a gallon a day of solution and they are happy. I have noticed they like that I have stopped tucking and training. They are stretching but not as fast as I would like to see. I think the trellis is useless. No trimming at all this week and they are happy with that too. Seems like they stop stretching if I trim anything. So I am probably going to remove the trellis and let them do their thing. I definalely let them Veg way too long. So now they are bushy little munsters and I dont think there is anything I can do about that now. They are definately showing off their Indica Phenotypes right now. Hope to see a little more of the sativa characteristics soon. Like to see some daytime meds but either way I am stoked they are flowering and smell great when I open the box. Stoked with how they have turned out, but I will not let them beg that long again. Lol. 12/24 Edit... Stretching for all they are worth. Almost tall enough to lollipop. Just not sure if that is the righ move. Flowers are forming nicely. I count 72 flowers . That is too many for my grow space!!!! Any advice??? Edit 12/26 So it is getting so late into flower that I was nervous of waiting too long. Maybe already have but here goes. They look Great IMHO. Gonna keep an eye on them really close. Hopefully everything is gonna be fine. They are voracious as it is anyway.... 🀯😨😳
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Grow Questions
OkieJim
OkieJimstarted grow question 6 years ago
Per defol, is it true the less budsites you leave after defoliation,(cutting smaller budsites and stems), the bigger and better your buds get and increased harvest weight? It seems like reverse to me...
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CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
hey man yes, basically for defoliation people over do it on the leaves which leaves the plant with less tools to absorb the light energy for photosynthesis. bad leaf defoliation can hurt yield, increase time to harvest, that sort of thing.... however pruning the flower nodes especially the little flower nodes that are located down the branch that will stay small, the so called popcorn bud, if you remove them early enough in flower , then this will force the plant to send the energy to the upper flower sites and these will get fatter, actually improving the yield. I hope this helps my friend ! i will follow and see how it works out for you ! πŸš€
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OkieJim
OkieJimweek 5
Update. They have slowed down a little. Probably seeing the effects of if the defoilation I did. Little worried, but I'm sure they will be fine. Just a nervous dad here. Lol. I was seeing massive growth but seems to have slowed alot. Still grew a little, just expected to see her new branches grow out some. But no, she is popping out nodes like none other. Already has 2.5 nodes brushing out fighting to see who can be the shortest. Lol. Like really close. Idk. I hear that you want right mode spacing but damn, seems like they are just dwarfs. Seriously like maybe 1/8 of an inch between nodes. Anyone else?
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Mrs_Larimar, Yes you are right. I just get so over impatient when I see them grow so fast. I will wait until next week before clipping anything else. Just focus on training for now. And I dont think I will let my manifold fo 3 nodes on each side. If she continues to show growth like she does now I will be over run. I only have 4x3x 8 total and with light restrictions I can probly let them get as high as 5 feet safely and that is with my light all the way up. Thank you for your direction. Have a great one!!!!
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@OkieJim,Thats nice but think about letting her rest after you cuttings
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Mrs_Larimar, it worked!!! You were right. My babies are now 8 inches tall and grew 3 inches since raising the light !!! At this rate you are hitting the nail on the head. I already removed the second nodes on one of them and she is doing great. Like really great. It seems to have helped her make room new growth. This evening I will take the second nodes from the other plant and wait 2 days and top the ends of my manifold. So excited. Hell might just cut the 4th set of nodes and top the 8th. That would give me 12 main colas on each plant since they are portraying such strong Indica traits. Especially for such a Sativa dominate strain. Wow. Thank you so much for your help.
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OkieJim
OkieJimweek 18
Lol. Yup. Already got some Moby Dick Critical Purple and some BlackBerry Cush popping. Lol.
OkieJim
OkieJimweek 14
Soooo, looking at the structure of these girls. It looks to me like Raelynn is going to keep her Indica dominate traits and Raeline is going to go for the taller Sativa dominant traits of their phenotype. That is pretty exciting! Opened the box this morning and Raelynn is still the same height where Raeline decided she wants to be almost 4 inches closer to the light!!!! Raelynn has way bigger buds than Raeline's, but Raeline is still stretching. Guess we will have to just kick back and watch to see where this goes. Lol.
OkieJim
OkieJimweek 13
So these gals are stretching out finally and I have way more budsites than I anticipated. I think I need to lollypopthese girls now they have some height. Probably wait until Saturday. Drinking up a gallon and a half now. I need to get more nutes. Just popped the top on my last 3 quarts of the flora trio. Will get them this week after Christmas. Does anyone have experience with jungle trimming this late in flower???? Merry Christmas!!!! πŸŽ…
OkieJim
OkieJimweek 9
I have 16 budsites. One plant has a mutation and grew a double site! So there are 9 on that one. The other I had an accident with a yardstick while checking ph levels and it smooth chopped off one of the mains at the stall! Sad day. LST has helped some but not alot up to now. When they start stretching I hope to be able to tame some of this wildness. Should be able to as long as I stay on top of it... Thanks man for the warm comments.... getting excited....
OkieJim
OkieJimweek 8
So changed our flush water for medium strength nutes last night and they are doing great. Looks like they liked the flush. I believe I am going to start changing their reservoir every 3ish days moving forward for a few weeks and see how they like that. Their stalks now measure 1.25 inches in diameter. Looks crazy because of how short they are. I have a few pistols showing themselves on both of these girls. Awesome. Things are happening...
OkieJim
OkieJimweek 3
Super excited about my update coming on Saturday!!! All my babies look great. And are growing good and pretty much evenly. Sooooo excited.
OkieJim
OkieJimweek 1
Let the madness begin. The new babies are down. Lights out for awhile.
Quexos
Quexosweek 13
My friend, you are battling a losing cause. The plants WILL take over. You will obey!😱 I suppose as long as the main bud sites, and their stalks, are exposed to the light, you don't have to worry about all that foliage. Maybe leaving it alone is best. You are getting a little more stretch. That is good. It's a shame your plant is so damn healthy!πŸ˜„
Quexos
Quexos
@OkieJim, Ideally you are supposed to lollipop them, but there has been too much growth. Luckily they will stop producing leaves in the next few weeks. Maybe then you can slowly contain that amazing jungle.
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Quexos, Thank you for the kind words. That is just it. If they didnt seem so healthy I would try something different. I KNOW THERE IS A JUNGLE IN THERE just scare 3d to do anything about it in case I do see some stretch and so forth. I will wait another week and see what they do. Then I will decide what direction to go. Want to lollipop them but I feel like that is the wrong way to go. IDK....
growdoctordc
growdoctordcweek 14
@Quexos wrote β€œ...the herb that I am growing is better than some of the stuff I buy locally...” πŸ‘ πŸ’¨ πŸ’¨
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 1
Setup is Looking very good and well prepared. just the best whishes to your grow
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 1
Ok, I wanted to say one more thing...I think you should only grow 2 plants in there at most. And my last piece of advice, get those nutrients and when you do get some hydroguard for your basin to help battle pythium. Ok, done with the rant.
BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 1
Ok, a couple of things; 1. Cover the empty pots with tin foil, as they tend to allow dead foliage and light into the basin. 2. Make sure you have about 1 cm of space under your netpots, so bubbles break and splash up under them. 3. Keep an eye on your ph and try to obtain 5.8 ph every day. 4. Don't give them nutes til you see 3rd set of leaves. 4. Go easy on the the nutes at 1/4 strength at first. Good luck with your grow, ask questions if you need help. Update: I guess don't use tin foil cause it can burn the plants, cover with something less reflective, but that still blocks out the light.
Quexos
Quexosweek 1
Take a look at the Maxlite PhotonMax. It comes in a 600w and a 1200w. Yours might be the 600w. It looks pretty similar. There is a PDF file on their website.
Quexos
Quexos
@OkieJim, Sorry, but i really don't have much knowledge when it comes to hydroponics. I'm an old guy. In the stone(d) age, we grew in soil. I used to buy Super Soil back in the day!
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Quexos,hey I got roots growin out the top of my rapid rooters. Do u think I should employ the paper plates to cover them? Didnt expect the roots to grow so fast...!!!!
OkieJim
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OkieJim
OkieJimweek 21
Thanks man. My bad... that was supposed to say 238 grams man. Sorry for the confusion ..Yeah i got my license to Grow in Oklahoma and I am going for it. Lots of research and lots of work. And not to mention lots of cash. Blessed man here bro. I will upload more budshots tomorrow when I let them breathe. Peace man... i plan on starting a diary with my big grow. Hopefully I can get close to 180 plants down. But I only have 30 HPS lights and a few others. Hoping to flower 6 under each light in a grid. Wish me luck.... I really appriciate all of your guidance and support brother. Its been an awesome road.... if your ever in Oklahoma.... just sayin.... lol
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Mrs_Larimar, yes ma'am, I decided to vo for it. I mean why not. Its worth a shot I thing. Read what I said to Quexos. I will tag both of you in my mew diary next week...
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@OkieJim, wow you are Brave!!! but i would do it too. Waiting to be legal. congratulation
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Mrs_Larimar, look at my new flower room. Pretty exciting. Sooooo much work.
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Quexos
Quexosweek 6
LoL, you whacked them up good in that last/first photo! There was no way your were going to hurt them though. Those plants are far to healthy. You are going to top them one more time for the manifold then flip to flower? Are you supposed to let them grow out a few nodes then cut them back like the main topping?
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Quexos,this article has been my guide along with members here to letting me grow my own medicine. Good stuff..
Quexos
Quexos
@OkieJim, Thanks for the info. I'll check out the article.
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Quexos, see link below Supposed to say Sirius Fourside. Dumb autocorrect. Lol https://www.growweedeasy.com/high-yield-bubbleponics-technique
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OkieJim
OkieJimweek 16
Flushing. Knew I need to do it, just been too busy doing other stuff to consider how to flush them. Probably gonna wait till they start fading yellow. Or my trics?
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Mrs_Larimar, I tried it. I put some in a bottle of vodka to see what it does for flavor. Interested.... I will let you k bnmn ow how it turns out tomorrow. Thanks for the idea!!
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@OkieJim, This time you got alot of leaves, I am not throwing the leaves away. They have Healthy-benefits. i put them into freezer for storage, and if i want to do some smoothies i put them into the blender. I also made "Green -gin", and infused redwine with " raw" green leaves. Its not quite psyhoactive but you have all the " goodies" and benefits out of the plant without a big high. You can stack up the benefits that way
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Mrs_Larimar, definately! And thanks for stopping by. I thing I wanna run in the 20% area. Nervous and excited at the same time.
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GreenRN
GreenRNweek 8
They look good! Is hydro a lot of work? I've thought about trying hydro at some point.
OkieJim
OkieJim
@@grzesiek, that's how we all learn to be the best growers we can be from advice from friends and experience.
grzesiek
grzesiek
@OkieJim,welcome my friend..............................im just sharing what i know so far.........................
OkieJim
OkieJim
@@grzesiek, yeah they are starting to drink more now I think you are right. That way I can flush them every 3rd change or so. Thanks man.
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BeefWellingtons
BeefWellingtonsweek 11
Ph keeps dropping cause they are drinking up. It means you are doing stuff right, even though its frustrating to keep on that ph level.
OkieJim
OkieJim
@DinafemSeeds, thank you for dropping by. That is what I am hoping for. I am starting to look at the trichromes now. Little harder to hold my hand steady enough to take a good pic with this microscope, but I will learn. Lol. I have seen a drastic change since I changed lights for sure. These babies are amazing. I put them through some heavy trials and they came through like champs!!!
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@OkieJim, With that extra light that will take your grow to another level πŸ‘ Considering this is your first grow your doing fantastic with our Moby dick πŸ‘Š Going of the pictures I would say another 21 days remaining. Would you agree my friend? All the best ✌️ Mark..
OkieJim
OkieJim
@DinafemSeeds, Yes I see that now. I just invested in a quad quantum board setup. Gonna be pushing close to 1000w. I keep looking back and seeing what I am going to do differently. Just got my Purple Moby Dick deeds today.cant wait to start my next grow. I am going to run 8 plants in my new build. Thank you Mark!!! Super excited
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Quexos
Quexosweek 16
The girls are looking great! Are you starting to check trichomes yet? They still have several weeks left, but you might as well get into the habit of checking them periodically. That way you will get the experience of looking for them and gauging whether they are getting close to harvest. It will also give you some ideas as to when to stop feeding, and when to start flushing.
OkieJim
OkieJim
@DinafemSeeds, awesome. I just updated these girls. I will probably stop feeding them in a couple days now. Got a little amber showing and they smell dank as dank can be!!! Gonna start flushing soon. Thanks for stopping by man!!!
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeeds
@OkieJim, They look fantastic mate and you can see they are really starting to pack on that weight πŸ‘Š By the look of things they still have around 21 day's remaing, I would feed for 10-12 more days then start the flush in preparation for the harvest πŸ‘Œ Not long now my friend and thank you for the diary update πŸ‘Š All the best ✌️ Mark..
OkieJim
OkieJim
@Quexos, check out the last pics I uploaded. So freaking excited!!!
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