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Larry Bird Kush (aka Gelato 33) Zamnesia

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Topping
weeks Technique
Main-Lining
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
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Grow medium
Grow Conditions
Week 8
Vegetation
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Budcrack Budcrack
5 years ago
Week 8, concluding the eight week of vegetating, transition into flowering week 1: Hi(gh) Guys, That was another interesting week. It’s amazing to see the amount of branches filling up the tent. Five days before switching to 12/12 last Sunday I’d apply the first 0,5 liter of foliage spray between the eight plants. Currently I’d applied the spray for three times, next week it will be the last time. But it did the job already! Everywhere I can notice the hairs and that started just 3 days after switching to 12/12. Next week I’ll still consider to be transitioning because for me the little crowns of hairs are the starting point to call in the flowering period. What I’d forgot to mention, both this spray and the ‘Fast Plant Spray’ I’d use in the early days of this grow are a bit of a problem to include in the weekly nutrient-diagram. I did mention the ingredients for making this spray last week, so feel free to read back if you’re looking for it. This is the first time to top multiple times, and currently I’m at the second round of topping. First the branches and offshoots must reach the desired height before I can top the second time, and just like every time some skyrocket to that point, while others stay low. Last Sunday I’d started pinching the slowest ones to reroute more energy to the branches that do grow. And as soon as they reach that level top them because that changes the plants priority again. Today the branches that reached that level can be counted by the little tops on the last picture. Then, when they reach the desired level, the idea is that they keep growing for the upcoming weeks. One week of transition is left, plus three weeks before stretching comes to a halt entirely, that makes about a month eft of growing. Later when the bud is becoming heavy I want to prevent this branches from breaking. So the next thing was to come up with a plan to prevent that. I don’t like to work with nets or rosters because it’s a big advantage to be able to just pick up the plant and take it somewhere to work on in a normal position. I’m having enough back pain as it is ;-) This time I’d tie a cross directly to the four branches I wanted to mainline, and the main stem from the plant itself supports it entirely. So no supporting sticks. This actually goes so well that I’d opted to use the same plant-sticks and plant-tie to make the plants an exo-skeleton. Look at the pictures, this works great! Every branch that’s high enough, after being topped and growing two new branches, now I can make a new mainlining point for this second layer. This way I keep individual plants and support them anyway. Pretty cool! During growing the branches stretch and are soft and flexible. Later I’ll expect to be able to remove some again, after branches harden out as stretching stops. There is one disadvantage though, it’s a lot of work, but hey: no pain, no gain ;-) Next is more topping, more supporting branches, and more mainlining. When moving into the first week of flowering I can start defoliating since a lot of fan-leaves become obsolete. I’m planning on leaving the fan-leaves underneath the main branching, these can prevent light from going to waste on the top of the soil and function as nutrient buffer. I’ll defoliate the part above entirely, and only selective up from the second topping-level. The idea is that I’ll end up with a beautiful canopy, so we’ll see! I’m looking forward to see you back and check on the Larry Bird’s progress next week! Grtz, Budcrack ;-)
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Grow Questions
Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 4 years ago
The last figure shows the topping plan i'd pick for this round, but i didn't manage to grow my plants this way. Better luck next time! Only now i want to know, can anyone point me to a diary that shows a plant that actually is topped that way? Thank you very much. 😏
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 4 years ago
well , i would not hold on pictures..... in my opinion growing is to find your own style, and that is wht you did. Never seen plants trained like yours and i works... they show a great shape, have lots of flowers. and growing without issues. Get enough light etc. So i will say ... do your thing. refine your technic . And show us the results in the coming diaries
Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 4 years ago
Who can show me a plant that is topped on three different moments, each time above the previously topped sites?
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 4 years ago
Check out my gelat.Og grow by seedsman. This is called mainlining or manifolding and it is a process where you top and train 3 times to create 8 main stems growing of a single "manifold".
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 15
Nice Illumination... looking good the Girls
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@Budcrack,i was reading it, and i hope you find it out. My brain works alittle different, so iam not trying to top like this and let her frow in that shape. I think the problem is in the twodimensional painting.. it got to be 3D......i think they let the plant growlike crossesknow what i mean.. one node in direction from east to west, next node from south to north......
Budcrack
Budcrack
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks! Did you see my other reaction to your last comment? I'm really trying to find the answer.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 17
very lovely "knotlike" Buds..... yummy and i look forward to next week happy flushing
Budcrack
Budcrack
@Mrs_Larimar, yeah and a couple of pheno's have great dense ones like D, E and G, not very big though.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 13
hi, just do it " the Budcrack-style" and train your girls your way. happy growing. Here on ds are several growers and i would rcognize their grows in their growstyle..
Budcrack
Budcrack
@Mrs_Larimar, i think what i really mean is this: those three topping plans of which i'd posted the figures i believe are indeed the baseline idea's of different ways of topping a plant. The other two, the V8 and the Plateau are totally clear, only that Chandelier topping plan doesn't make sense as the figure. I'd see the others on GD, so now i'm really looking for a plant that comes close to the figure, to better understand.
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inuweek 1
I like the detail and care going into your journal! I will be keeping an eye on this grow 👍
Budcrack
Budcrack
@Cheeba_Inu, thanks man! That's what i'm trying, to be as much of help sharing my findings and give everyone the chance to grow topshelf dope! 😉
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 18
Indeed there is alot of resin in the flowrs... happy harvesting
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 16
get well soon...
Satori_Hanso
Satori_Hansoweek 5
I really like your grows. It can be seen you're putting a lot of effort. Keep on growing ! 👌💪
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrientsweek 2
Thank you very much for sharing your first Diarie with our 100% organic product range. We wish you maximum success with your Larry Bird Kush Grow. If you have any questions pls feel any time free to contact us here via chat.
Budcrack
Budcrackweek 19
@Fruitgrower: thanks, i watched your proces with the Gelat OG. Could you point me towards someone who is most experienced in this proces? I think your retarding to much considering the state when you flipped 12/12. I would like to see the most efficiënt version of this proces. Thanks for the input bro!
Fruitgrower
Fruitgrowerweek 19
There are a few growers here doing awesome mainlining that's why I wanted to try it out. I can't remember their names though.... @sticky does some. And I think a couple of the master growers have done good ones. This w my first attempt and it spent the first 8 weeks under cfl bulbs(could be why it's squat and dwarf like.
Budcrack
Budcrack
@Fruitgrower, ok, i'll see too it, but given the double vegtime i don't think it's going to work. It's important not to retard to much during veg, or timing it correct if you will. What you did with lollipopping so early threw at least 3 weeks delay. What would happen if you start topping, you now did with 3 weeks, but much later with a higher situated node. If you would let it grow until 5 or 6 weeks, and meanwhile pinch every branch beginning except the top two! All that leaf will grow big and deliver energy to your plant, like it's personal solar-field 😏 Then you start mainlining like you did week 5. The plant will have plenty of energy to grow, and lollipopping at that point, except your fanleafs below offcourse, like you did with your current grow, won't retard so much. Cheers bro!
Fruitgrower
Fruitgrower
@Budcrack, I also did something very similar called fluxing (which is when you do it really early and with younger plant). I did this with an auto Ggg1 and it worked great! There is a great tutorial by nugs bucket on grow weed easy, Google it, it helped me alot. But yes it is going to double your veg period.
Budcrack
Budcrack
@Fruitgrower, yeah, i know, but your trying it that's great! But i have to see how an efficiënt grow develops to determine if it fit's my yearly schedule. It's no use if i have to pregrow for more than 10 weeks, but i fear that if you manage to grow a big plant with this technique that it's gonna take a while to do so. My search continues, thanks bro! 👊
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrientsweek 10
Thanky for Update, all plants look very healty at the moment. From now on we look specially forward to see the differents between you Plant B, C, G & H and A, D, E, F with the constantly usage of our new GROWZYME Product.
Budcrack
Budcrack
@GreenBuzzNutrients, P.s. 09-10: Today i'd removed the middle two plants to better compare between them after 2,5 weeks of adding Growzyme to half of the plants, the differences at this point are evident; plants receiving Growzyme bounce back much faster from intervening the growth, also the stems are thicker, more abundant leave growth, thicker buds with much more white hairs, and last but not least more resin production and that’s what where all doing this for, so I’m excited! Great addition to an already great product line. Can’t wait to see the difference in end-weight. Growzyme = good stuff for good stuff ;-)
Budcrack
Budcrack
@GreenBuzzNutrients, at this moment the difference is predominantly the smell, much stronger at the Growzyme plants. I'm very curious too! Thanks again!
smoking_hills9
smoking_hills9week 15
Looking like its gonna be heavy and tasty harvest. Well done man👍
Budcrack
Budcrack
@smoking_hills9, this is really great, yeah i'm happy. And whe're not even there!
Buddha2
Buddha2week 17
Wow!
VovaFarms
VovaFarmsweek 16
Looking good
PharmaZ
PharmaZweek 16
They look so healthy! Good job 👍🏼
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 16
Looks good 🍀
VovaFarms
VovaFarmsweek 15
I love your setup
EZgrower
EZgrowerweek 14
Time to prepare your Bong, buddy. I foresee a great harvest. bul bul bul subscribed and watching your grow.👍