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Larry Bird Kush (aka Gelato 33) Zamnesia

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Topping
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Main-Lining
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Defoliation
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Week 12
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Budcrack Budcrack
5 years ago
Week 12, concluding the third week of flowering: Hi(gh) Guys, The third week now also on the counter, seven more weeks to go. Earlier, and probably because all of the defoliation, it was difficult to see the difference on the pictures. Now the plants had some time to recover and continue growing. The differences are easy to see on the pictures, but to make it even better visible, last Friday (11-10) I’d removed the middle two plants and made some pictures. To summarize the differences; Plants recover much faster from any training and show much more abundant growth, best seen by the lower popcorn-buds on the (+Gz)-side. Here the leaves grow much faster, resulting in a much denser canopy. The bud sites are thicker, containing much more white hairs, producing more resin and smelling much stronger than the non-(+Gz)-side. And it also shows on the pictures now! To conclude into this: plants are much better off with the Green Buzz Liquids Growzyme brown algae-extract. What was also interesting this week, a local homegrow website posted an article about defoliating stating the best window to start with it is about 4 weeks into flowering, and should be done in its entirety in one shaving. My method actually is a bit different, the stretching of the branches continues up until the third week of flowering, but can be slowed down earlier by cutting the big fan-leave that goes together with it. This way you can actually focus the plants priority onto growing bud earlier this way, by cutting leaves at the right moment. So the title of the article stated the possibility to harvest 30% more this way, only they told later that this technique doesn’t combine well with other techniques like topping and pinching the lower buds. Again I think I must disagree because every right timed technique can be combined, as long as you apply techniques dosed so that you don’t retard to much or stun the plant altogether. The other benefits from defoliating are improvement of light penetration into the canopy, what also combines well together with the mainline-adapters, because they ensure you can always pick one plant at the time out of tent and work on it. Improving this also sees to it that you can put much more plants inside a small area, and maintaining an even canopy. Also less leave to trap the water vapor, allowing fresh air and Co2 to ventilate through the canopy and thus stimulating the production of trichomes and reducing the chance of mold and rot. I’m happy that I can now sit a little bit more back, not having to work so much on the plants anymore. At the end of week 5 I’m going to start a new minor round up (3x Spliff’s Gold Bar Kush), then again three weeks later I’ll start another major project. This time I’d decided to grow 9x Hempire Seeds - Nicole’s Kush. Both photoperiod strains. So busy-busy! I’m looking forward to see you back and check on the Larry Bird’s progress next week! Grtz, Budcrack ;-)
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Grow Questions
Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 5 years ago
The last figure shows the topping plan i'd pick for this round, but i didn't manage to grow my plants this way. Better luck next time! Only now i want to know, can anyone point me to a diary that shows a plant that actually is topped that way? Thank you very much. 😏
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
well , i would not hold on pictures..... in my opinion growing is to find your own style, and that is wht you did. Never seen plants trained like yours and i works... they show a great shape, have lots of flowers. and growing without issues. Get enough light etc. So i will say ... do your thing. refine your technic . And show us the results in the coming diaries
Budcrack
Budcrackstarted grow question 5 years ago
Who can show me a plant that is topped on three different moments, each time above the previously topped sites?
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 5 years ago
Check out my gelat.Og grow by seedsman. This is called mainlining or manifolding and it is a process where you top and train 3 times to create 8 main stems growing of a single "manifold".
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 155 years ago
Nice Illumination... looking good the Girls
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented5 years ago
@Budcrack,i was reading it, and i hope you find it out. My brain works alittle different, so iam not trying to top like this and let her frow in that shape. I think the problem is in the twodimensional painting.. it got to be 3D......i think they let the plant growlike crossesknow what i mean.. one node in direction from east to west, next node from south to north......
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks! Did you see my other reaction to your last comment? I'm really trying to find the answer.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 175 years ago
very lovely "knotlike" Buds..... yummy and i look forward to next week happy flushing
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, yeah and a couple of pheno's have great dense ones like D, E and G, not very big though.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 135 years ago
hi, just do it " the Budcrack-style" and train your girls your way. happy growing. Here on ds are several growers and i would rcognize their grows in their growstyle..
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, i think what i really mean is this: those three topping plans of which i'd posted the figures i believe are indeed the baseline idea's of different ways of topping a plant. The other two, the V8 and the Plateau are totally clear, only that Chandelier topping plan doesn't make sense as the figure. I'd see the others on GD, so now i'm really looking for a plant that comes close to the figure, to better understand.
Cheeba_Inu
Cheeba_Inucommentedweek 15 years ago
I like the detail and care going into your journal! I will be keeping an eye on this grow 👍
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Cheeba_Inu, thanks man! That's what i'm trying, to be as much of help sharing my findings and give everyone the chance to grow topshelf dope! 😉
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 185 years ago
Indeed there is alot of resin in the flowrs... happy harvesting
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 165 years ago
get well soon...
Satori_Hanso
Satori_Hansocommentedweek 55 years ago
I really like your grows. It can be seen you're putting a lot of effort. Keep on growing ! 👌💪
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrientscommentedweek 25 years ago
Thank you very much for sharing your first Diarie with our 100% organic product range. We wish you maximum success with your Larry Bird Kush Grow. If you have any questions pls feel any time free to contact us here via chat.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommentedweek 195 years ago
@Fruitgrower: thanks, i watched your proces with the Gelat OG. Could you point me towards someone who is most experienced in this proces? I think your retarding to much considering the state when you flipped 12/12. I would like to see the most efficiënt version of this proces. Thanks for the input bro!
Fruitgrower
Fruitgrowercommentedweek 195 years ago
There are a few growers here doing awesome mainlining that's why I wanted to try it out. I can't remember their names though.... @sticky does some. And I think a couple of the master growers have done good ones. This w my first attempt and it spent the first 8 weeks under cfl bulbs(could be why it's squat and dwarf like.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Fruitgrower, ok, i'll see too it, but given the double vegtime i don't think it's going to work. It's important not to retard to much during veg, or timing it correct if you will. What you did with lollipopping so early threw at least 3 weeks delay. What would happen if you start topping, you now did with 3 weeks, but much later with a higher situated node. If you would let it grow until 5 or 6 weeks, and meanwhile pinch every branch beginning except the top two! All that leaf will grow big and deliver energy to your plant, like it's personal solar-field 😏 Then you start mainlining like you did week 5. The plant will have plenty of energy to grow, and lollipopping at that point, except your fanleafs below offcourse, like you did with your current grow, won't retard so much. Cheers bro!
Fruitgrower
Fruitgrowercommented5 years ago
@Budcrack, I also did something very similar called fluxing (which is when you do it really early and with younger plant). I did this with an auto Ggg1 and it worked great! There is a great tutorial by nugs bucket on grow weed easy, Google it, it helped me alot. But yes it is going to double your veg period.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@Fruitgrower, yeah, i know, but your trying it that's great! But i have to see how an efficiënt grow develops to determine if it fit's my yearly schedule. It's no use if i have to pregrow for more than 10 weeks, but i fear that if you manage to grow a big plant with this technique that it's gonna take a while to do so. My search continues, thanks bro! 👊
GreenBuzzNutrients
GreenBuzzNutrientscommentedweek 105 years ago
Thanky for Update, all plants look very healty at the moment. From now on we look specially forward to see the differents between you Plant B, C, G & H and A, D, E, F with the constantly usage of our new GROWZYME Product.
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@GreenBuzzNutrients, P.s. 09-10: Today i'd removed the middle two plants to better compare between them after 2,5 weeks of adding Growzyme to half of the plants, the differences at this point are evident; plants receiving Growzyme bounce back much faster from intervening the growth, also the stems are thicker, more abundant leave growth, thicker buds with much more white hairs, and last but not least more resin production and that’s what where all doing this for, so I’m excited! Great addition to an already great product line. Can’t wait to see the difference in end-weight. Growzyme = good stuff for good stuff ;-)
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@GreenBuzzNutrients, at this moment the difference is predominantly the smell, much stronger at the Growzyme plants. I'm very curious too! Thanks again!
smoking_hills9
smoking_hills9commentedweek 155 years ago
Looking like its gonna be heavy and tasty harvest. Well done man👍
Budcrack
Budcrackcommented5 years ago
@smoking_hills9, this is really great, yeah i'm happy. And whe're not even there!
Buddha2
Buddha2commentedweek 175 years ago
Wow!
VovaFarms
VovaFarmscommentedweek 165 years ago
Looking good
PharmaZ
PharmaZcommentedweek 165 years ago
They look so healthy! Good job 👍🏼
ChefDan420
ChefDan420commentedweek 165 years ago
Looks good 🍀
VovaFarms
VovaFarmscommentedweek 155 years ago
I love your setup
EZgrower
EZgrowercommentedweek 145 years ago
Time to prepare your Bong, buddy. I foresee a great harvest. bul bul bul subscribed and watching your grow.👍