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Interalia666 Interalia666
4 years ago
Slightly unconventional mainlining trained for 16 colas. All topping and HST done. Going forward - LST as required but should be maintainence mostly + selective defoliation Currently waiting for a batch of Autos to finish so it will be another 2-3 week before I flip to flower 1.2m stakes at the ready to train/coax each cola into a par drenched space. GG4 from Original Sensible Seeds germinated within 24 hours and grew vigorously from the get go. Once translpanted into a 5 gallon airpot it has thrived despite my best attempts to mutilate it with multiple toppings/twisting/bending. The plant has shown no signs of distress whatsoever and has bounced back within a day or two. No nutrient issues at this stage and I am now hoping that those damn autos do not take too long to finish as I need to allow this rampant little weed some room to stretch. It has no issues with variable humidities, as I started a batch of autos and GG4 off together in a 60-65 RH and temps of around 80f. As the autos have proceeded to go through their flower cycle, I have lowered the RH to 50-55 and the temps to 75f and GG4 has smashed it in both. Leaves are a light green colour which is a nice change for me as all I seem to had a run of dark leaved hybrids lately. Will continue to train and defoliate to select the viable side branching and to make use of any avaliable space in the canopy. Stakes will help 'splay' the main and side branches and aid light penetration and airflow through the canopy. It will also be bnecessary to decide what bud sites are going to make it and those who sadly are not. I am looking to get a canopy of colas and so will look to remove all pop corn potential elsewhere on the plant to allow all its focus to be on those colas. Previously used Bio Bizz (soil/nutrients) which is a quality product. However my ragamuffin OG's told me to try Plant Magic which they swore was just as good at half the price. Have been very surprised and pleased so far the soil quality is fantastic and even after multiple waterings it does not become compacted. That means that it does dry out a little quicker than other soils so you have to adjust your watering schedule, for example mine changed from every 3 days to every 2 days. Same goes for The oldtimer bloom and grow (both organic) which has the plants reaching for the sky with no sign of nutrient burn. So far I have been pleased with the plant magic organic range I have tried, it is definately as good if not a bit better than Bio Bizz (at least for my growing style) and massively cheaper. At the end of the day for the home consumers like me, despite the slick marketing of nutrient companies, it all boils down to N:P:K and some micro - nutrients. Will continue to post as the training heads towards the flip to flower.
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Interalia666
Interalia666started grow question 4 years ago
Defoliation - fan leaves Yay - to help with RH and focus plants energy on colas Nay - because plants need their leaves to photosynthasise and better to remove larfy bud sites instead A well known Phd in plant biology is firmly in the nay camp What do you think?
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BlackCousin
BlackCousinanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hello Interalia666, your girl is looking great. I get your question, its al about choices you make on how you raise your girl. Indicas or more indica leniant strains love to being defoliated unlike most of the sativas. So your glue would be fine if you did so. Ypi only want to defoliate where is makes sense and adds to a better envirement for your girl. It may be to increase airflow, lower humidity and or get better lighting through your canopy. My advice is do it where its needed and keep in mind that the best time to do it in flower is the 3rd week of flower. In veg you can do it multiple times just not in the week when you put her into flower. Hope this was an helpfull answer. Keep on growing my friend. Peace πŸ‘πŸΎ
Interalia666
Interalia666started grow question 4 years ago
Week 1 of flower for photoperiod GG4 which has been mainlined for 16 colas. What are your recomendations for best organic supplements for bloom. I currently use Plant Magic Oldtimer Bloom throughout and Bio Bizz Top Max (later into flower) with a bit of fulvic acid
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DWCHC
DWCHCanswered grow question 4 years ago
For bloom, a 1+1 mix of tarantula and piranha from advanced nutrients, recommend the wettable powder as opposed to the pre mixed.. over a billion count per gram on the tarantula, and a great selection of myco in the piranha. I'd mix in dechlorinated water, but not RO, with a touch of powdered egg shells and molasses.. keep at 20 deg C or 70F until strands of visible mycelium are visible in the water. Aeration helps speedup colonization. Add appropriate amounts to your solution... Cheers!
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi, Iam using the Green BUzz Liquids LIne... filled with benefical stuff. easy to use and effective. But you can go with some more Brands. Plagron ( organic line) or as you mentioned the Biobizz line. Beneficals like MOlasses, calcium, magnesium, HUmic acid, Fluvic acid help the Plant// microbaterias very much
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Master_weeda
Master_weedaanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hello dear friend Cannabis flowering fertilizers are used when plants are in photoperiod 12h / 12h. They are rich in phosphorus and potassium to promote the development of the heads. There are organic, minerals and bio-minerals. 🌱 All are effective if you follow the corresponding dosing instructions, but we have a weakness for these three: Grotek's Solotek Bloom, Atami's Flower-C and BioCanna's BioFloresπŸ‘ Good luck for your grow May the force be with you πŸ’ͺ
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BIGBUDZ450
BIGBUDZ450week 19
Was their really 4000g Dry Cured bud on 1 plant ? Cheers, Congratulations and happy growing!!!
Buddha2
Buddha2
@Interalia666, I fear this annoyance will go on πŸ˜• Keep in mind that so far only a tiny minority of 95% of humankind have agreed on using the science based metric system...
Interalia666
Interalia666
@Buddha2, it would be nice to grow a 'Humbolt tree' with 4kg but first I would need to pursuade the local law enforcement not to lock me up! For the record, you can see above that when I record the wet/dry weight in ounces, GD does the weight per plant calculation in grams!, when I record the wet/dry weight in grams, GD does the weight per plant calculation in ounces ! Go figure!
Buddha2
Buddha2
@Interalia666, same here, but I understand that 4kg might scare people πŸ˜ƒ
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 18
Nicely forest shaped buds.....
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 16
Looking like a little forest....
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 15
swelling buds,, thats the way we like it
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 12
Atm you have a a lot of orgaic Products you can Choose. nearly every fertiliser company has a Organic line. BIOTABS has a nice "booom boom Spray for late bloom, and a good Organic Compost tea. Green buzz Liquids has for the whole grow Great Products. Plagron // BIobizz// Canna... all companies hav that stff. Just look what they filled in as benficals to help the Plant For more information// reciepes just it the reply button
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 12
Iam sure you find " good Stuff" for your IMpressive Tree here
WisdomCulture420
WisdomCulture420week 10
Good luck and good culture my friends and I wish you all the best for your futur harvest
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 13
loking good, hve you found abooster for later flower=?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@Interalia666, Hi ive answered already but my post is lost anywhere. I absolutey understand and agree what you said to keep it simple. Iwas growing until begin of ths year with only a 23 products ive bought, Azospirillium ( or a growing fertiliser) and a blooming fertiliser. I made alot of stuff diy ( look diary the big gren ones")... then i met the CEO of GreenBuzz Liquis and tsted their Productline. In fact its A growing , a blooming , and a booster nutrient... all the other "bottles" are benefical stuff , through your grow. the schedule is very easy. And you can follw it trustful with photoperiods ( the automatic plants gt less) In every stage you have beneficals that improve your growth. So i " Mutated" from a growr who used nearly to nothing to now using the whole range.....and i can say the plants // harvests changed, Changed massively. I was not bad with my benefica stuff... and iam sure i would still use it if i havent met the Green Buzz Liquids Guy. So iam sure you can create your own nutrients and boosters. Look into "The Weed Mans" Diary he posted alot of reciepes for making your own stuff, same to bossanovas goldcup winning Diary .... ( All those diarys you find in diary of the year) those are very recommendable Mammoth::::::::: you can have that much cheaper.. look for " effektive Microorganismen" those little ones improve the Microbacterial life in the soil..........you can make your own stuff too here and wayyy cheaper. for more infos just get me per PM Look on google for Bokashi Diy... or effective microorganismns
Interalia666
Interalia666
@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks for the support and advice throughout. No, not yet decided on a late flower booster, TBH don't really know what would compliment what I currently use without creating Nute burn from P & K accumulative overload. Lots of choice but wary of just slick marketing BS. I have a KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid) approach to growing so don't want a long complicated list of nutes. I also want to keep it organic. I do like the sound of Mammoth P which is a microbial inoculant that helps to unlock P and micronutrients to maximize bud grow as you know, but is it prohibitively expensive so that's out. Not very well educated as to late flower nute requirments so not sure whther I should be looking at something like an enzyme based supplement to help stimulate the microbiology and concomitantly, nutrient uptake or something that delivers industrial quantities of chelated P & K .................or both!
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 8
Nice job on this plant, in only 8 weeks, well done bro πŸ‘
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNS
@Interalia666, if she’s going for another 2-3 weeks, I would suggest to do another round of topping perhaps.
Interalia666
Interalia666
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, cheers mate, probably could have got to this in 5-6 weeks with a little more effort but is growing alongside autos at the moment so happy to let it veg until the autos are done (about 2-3 weeks now) and then onto flowering.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 17
You have had a flood in your country=? i hope everything else is fine too, in your home
Interalia666
Interalia666
@Mrs_Larimar, Not to worry, house fine, grow fine (good electrical planning!), plant happy, other than a nitrogen pull from the leaves as we get towards harvest. Thanks for asking though πŸ‘
Stick
Stickweek 8
Hi @Interalia666! Some plants won't let you no other choice. Bushy plants with big indica-style shaped leaves will create a lot of shades onto lower bud sites and might lead to humidity issues. Defoliation is awesome when done correctly, but it could be a nightmare if done too much or at the wrong time. Before removing a leaf, I always ask myself: is this leaf really blocking the light? For how many nodes / bud sites? How close are the next leaves? How healthy is this leaf? Is humidity an issue, may the buds suffer from the humidity generated by the leaf? You should make your own experiments and see how it goes. Hope this will help, let me know in the comments section if you need any further information, and happy growing! πŸ‘Š
Interalia666
Interalia666
@Stick, thanks mate and very true, we are all slaves to the genes and this little monster is like Captain Scarlett (you need to be a certain age to get the reference!) I usually do a little light lollipoping just before I flip to flower and then again at about week 2-3 of flower. I used to be in the camp that removed shading leaves, etc but recently I have listened to a lot of Phd plant biologists who are starting to completely change many of the growing conventions that I thought were correct (and have served me well). Will definately run a few experiments next grow (Royal Moby) and get them up on here for the greenthumbs to consider. I have a good supply of 1.5 meter stakes and will be staking this plant extensively when the colas stems start to grow up to keep good seperation, light penetration and help RH. I think this should take care of a lot of the issues alongside getting rid of any minor bud sights or side branching that will not produce quality bud. Will be posting regularly so sing out if you see anything bad/wrong/could do better. Cheers
Athos
Athosweek 8
10 growers will give you 10 different answers. I tried it and didnt like it. I only defoliate when there are stacks of leaves right on top of each other that leaves them wet, after all only the one at the top will get any light. I don't defoliate just so light reaches buds, but. Best advice is to try and make your mind about the topic.
Interalia666
Interalia666
@@Athos, it is quite a contentious subject amongst growers as we get more and more Phd science based people involved in the legal production of cannabis, they are quite a revelation when it comes to explaining plant biology and processes at a molecular level. One Phd whose opinion I respect says get rid of nodes not leaves; plants do not store nutrients in leaves, thats not how leaves work; Buds do not need direct light (they grow due to the photsynthic process of the leaves converting light into energy to metabolise), flushing is not needed and quite a few other things which go against the grain of OG growers experience. When he unpicks all the science, it is very hard to argue with him. I will try and post his explantion (I heard it on a podcast) on here. Personally, I flush and do a bit of light lollipoping for the larfy stuff at the end of veg. I do however, have an open mind as there are millions of ways to sucessfully grow these plants and I am always open to new ideas. I have a Royal Moby grow next up so I will go for a comparison defoliating v not defoliating which might be quite intersting to see how they perform?
Dutchpro_Nutrients_USA_Official
Dutchpro_Nutrients_USA_Officialweek 19
Great looking buds!
Buddha2
Buddha2week 19
Impressive! Congratulations!
Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardensweek 19
Dam nice buds
Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardensweek 18
Dam I can smell them through the screen , looking nice
Buddha2
Buddha2week 16
Looks great!
GreenHeart420
GreenHeart420week 9
Nice looking plant! Good luck with flowering 😊✌️
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 9
Looks good πŸ‘πŸΌπŸ†’
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 8
First like for weedawan πŸ˜‰ Nice main lining 🀩 May the force be with you πŸ’ͺGood luck for your grow 🌱