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weeks 3
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weeks 4-6, 9-10
20 L
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2 L
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Week 12
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90
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Height
24 hrs
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Hesi-PH Down Phosphoric Acid
0.25 ml/l
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A
1.7 mll
CANNA Coco B - Canna
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Lit_1 Lit_1
4 years ago
Week 12 - Gelato #33 Auto All measurements are per 1L of water Day 78 (Flower Day 50) - Week 12 is here! So I've made preprations for dyring and curring the Critical Jack Herer outside the tent in a climate controlled closet. The digial microscope i bought did arrive and i checked all over CJH top, middle, lower cola's and flowers and they are mostly cloudy. She's not gotten any bigger in weeks as well. I also took a tiny nug from one of her lower cola's halfway down that's flower. Which is quite low on her. Most of the digital pictures are from that. So you can see the development of even her least developed flowers. I also vaped it and although it took a high temperature to do it, it came off pretty smooth, no chemical taste, just a little 'fresh'. The mood elevator was great and lasted 4 1/2 hours. So i feel confident in starting a week long flush. The other ladies, Purple Punch is about 3-4 weeks to go atleast, the White Widow and Gelato #33 maybe another 1-2 weeks befure their turn to flush. I plan to chop the CJH on saturday which makes for a 6 day flush which i feel comfortable about given her quality already. The feeds are split up now between the PP/WW/G33 and CJH. So without further ado the feed for the PP/WW/G33 is as follows: Water EC 0.2 added CaMg to 0.5 EC / 1.7mL A / 1.7mL B / 1.0mL Cannazyme / 1.5mL Boost for a total of EC 1.3 and PH 6.5 (note Rhizotonic has been removed) ////// The feed for Critical Jack Herer as follows: water 0.2 EC added 1.5mL Cannazyme for a EC of 0.4 and PH 6.4 Day 79 (Flower Day 51) - Busy day for me so just the feed report: feed for the PP/WW/G33 is as follows: Water EC 0.2 added CaMg to 0.5 EC / 1.7mL A / 1.7mL B / 1.0mL Cannazyme / 1.5mL Boost for a total of EC 1.3 and PH 6.3 (note Rhizotonic has been removed) ////// The feed for Critical Jack Herer as follows: water 0.2 EC added 1.3mL Cannazyme for a EC of 0.4 and PH 6.5 Day 80 (Flower Day 52) - The purple punch is really getting top heavy, She's starting to get her lean on. My 1 meter long stakes arent nearly long enough for her so i'm going to have to figure something else out for her. Was a very humid and hot day today so been battling that to keep temps and humidity down in the tent. Luckily only a few more days to go for the CJH so once she's out of there things should start getting more manageable. Feed today for the CJH flush was as follows: Water 0.2 EC added 1.0mL for a final reading of EC 0.3 and PH 6.5 (4 liters). /// For the PP/WW/G33 the following feed: Water 0.2 EC added CaMg to 0.5 EC / 1.7mL A / 1.7mL B / 1.0mL Cannazyme / 2.0mL Boost for a final reading of EC 1.4 and PH 6.4 Day 81 (Flower Day 53) - A few days late so here are the next 4 days that i missed of updates. I notice some discoloration on the very tops of the sugar leaves of PP/CJH/WW, it kind of looks like either too much Magnesium or Phosphorus (or lockout). I'm going to be stopping the CaMg as its close enough to harvest that i feel they'll all be ok. Also I'm lowering the feed of the PP/WW/G33 down quite a bit in preparation for the flush to come. Feed today was as follows for the CJH Flush: Water 0.2 EC / 1mL Cannazyme to EC 0.3 & PH 6.5 //// PP G33 WW feed as follows: Water 0.2 EC / 1.5mL A / 1.5mL B / 1mL Cannazyme / 1.5mL Boost / PH 6.4 and EC 1.2 Day 82 (Flower Day 54) - Preparations for the CJH harvest, will do on saturday. Feed was the same as yesterday: CJH Flush: Water 0.2 EC / 1mL Cannazyme to EC 0.3 & PH 6.4 //// PP G33 WW feed as follows: Water 0.2 EC / 1.5mL A / 1.5mL B / 1mL Cannazyme / 1.5mL Boost / PH 6.3 and EC 1.1 Day 83 - (Flower Day 55) - Feed was the same as yesterday: CJH Flush: Water 0.2 EC / 1mL Cannazyme to EC 0.3 & PH 6.5 //// PP G33 WW feed as follows: Water 0.2 EC / 1.5mL A / 1.5mL B / 1mL Cannazyme / 1.5mL Boost / PH 6.4 and EC 1.2 Day 84 (Flower Day 56) - Harvest!!!!!! Wow what a day its been! So i chopped down my lovely Critical Jack Herer and I couldnt be happier with her. She was a real champ! Infact i've even bought more of the exact same seeds for a future grow (way in the future). I wont be doing wet weight as I dont see any point in it whatsoever, I will be certain however to weight once the dry is complete. The idea is to dry for 4-7 days (whenever the twig branches have a nice 'snap' sound) then they'll be de-stemmed, weighed, and go into the jars for the curing process. Luckily the humidity is perfect right now mid to high 50's with a temperature of 80f / 26.6c which puts the dew point at a safe level. I have recirculating air as well from a low powered oscillating fan. I got up at 8am to start cutting and didnt finish until 10pm at night (i took a few hours breaks in total). My first time trimming and after awhile you kind of hit your stride. I did notice that the beginning of the wet trim was MUCH easier than the last 4-5 hours or so as they leaves were all starting to wilt and turn inward which made trimming much more difficult. So lesson here is once you chop, trim immediately if you're going for a wet trim. Once the flowers are dry i'll be sure to add a 'harvest' section with the dry weight. I dont want to do it yet as i heard from others you cant go back and edit it later so i want to be sure to include the dry weight there. - As for the 3 other ladies they are doing well. The extra room was dearly needed and they've suffered from not being able to spread out as much as they like (another lesson learned). The Purple Punch is getting so top heavy that she's really starting to fall over, however i dont have 3 meter long stakes for her so I took about 10 large zip ties and fashioned them into one larve one to kind of keep her top half together from falling over ontop of the White Widow and Gelato#33 - I tried spreading out the White Widow and Gelato as well and added stakes to the Gelato to help her stya up as well (now witht he extra room she's falling over too). Going forward I'd like to harvest them all at the same time now that they arent too far apart. So i'll be monitoring the Purple Punch and doing it that way. -- The Feed for the PP/WW/G33 today was as follows (also last of my boost so no more going forward): Water 0.2 EC / 1.0mL A / 1.0mL B / 1mL Cannazyme / 3mL Boost / PH 6.4 and EC 1.0
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Lit_1
Lit_1started grow question 5 years ago
Worried if the tips of the new growth are exhibiting any signs of a micro-nutrient deficiency, CaMg? I've been feeding her CaMg but not every feed, about once every 3 days.
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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smoke24
smoke24answered grow question 5 years ago
You may have a light stress issue, I see the serrations on the leaves are starting to curl up a little bit. I've had this problem as well. Try either moving your light up or turning down the intensity, and see if you notice a difference in 3 days.
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Growingkitten
Growingkittencommentedweek 75 years ago
Looking good! Keep it up! 😺
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@Growingkitten, Thank you very much!
GMSgrows
GMSgrowscommentedweek 75 years ago
Looking great bro. Cheers
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@GMSgrows, Thank you sir!
Lord_Gabe_Newell
Lord_Gabe_Newellcommentedweek 45 years ago
I second @smoke24 about light stress. Had the same with my HLG fixtures, these new led diodes are mega powerful with minimal heat, the good old rules to determine light heights you find on sites apply to HPS/MH mostly, but not high end LEDs. Try to stick with the manual that comes with the light, however I had to move my HLG a few inches further than listed on their site cuz it slowly burned my babies with too intense light (not heat).
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@Lord_Gabe_Newell, Ya I think you're both right. I've already moved the light up. We'll see if thats enough. I have a lot more room to move it up as these girls are shorties
teddaykgb
teddaykgbcommentedweek 25 years ago
The attention to detail in this diary...:D Keep up the good work and good luck dude!!!
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@teddaykgb, Thank you sir! I'm trying as best i can, hopefully a good result will come but who knows? Atleast with my 2nd grow i'll have crazy notes of where i went wrong or right that i can maybe change πŸ˜‚
WitheredEye
WitheredEyecommentedweek 35 years ago
Mine did that after feeding yesterday. Only the newest growth was brown tipped
Lit_1
Lit_1commentedweek 35 years ago
@smoke24 Thanks for your help. I think that is exactly what it is, light stress. I havent measured my plants in awhile and some of them grew closer than 60cm (50cm about). I've since raised the light. Thanks again for your astute observation and help!
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808commentedweek 55 years ago
Yes Yesss Brother 😊 Good to see a fresh update on the babies and they're all looking super fine my friend!! I know you was having a few issues but it looks like everything is in order and tidy man!πŸ‘ Have you been watering with runoff or do you just stick to a certain amount of water only? I noticed you're only feeding 1ltr in a bigger pot but I've been feeding my plant 3ltr per day in an 11ltr pot to get my PPM correct on runoff and my PH runoff has been perfect too! I don't know if it's the best way but it's been working so well I don't wonna change Shit!!!!! πŸ˜• On my first grow I didn't do this and on flushing my PPM was CRAZY high which made me do things different this time round!! It made me concerned that they were sitting in a high concentration without me knowing because I hadn't runoff properly!! Respects πŸ˜‰
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808commented5 years ago
@@Lit_1, You're a lucky man bud with humidity perfect then!!! πŸ‘. So good that it remains low where you are as we know what high humidity can do for the babies!! Speak soon brother πŸ˜‰
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@Bushbaby808, I just took out the humidifier (Rowenta Aqua Perfect) a few days ago as it wasnt kicking on anymore since i set it for 45% and thats where it seems to be without it. Outside humidity in the room is about 38% on average, inside the tent it seems to range from 38-48% which i think is ok, although maybe on the low side for the plants health. I'm paranoid against budrot though so i think i'm ok with it being that low. I live near the mountains so the humidity isnt very high here and its been raining quite a bit lately so that always spikes it up. During the day and night i try to keep the window cracked open for fresh air/cO2 and equalize the temperature in the tent. I'm hoping these conditions will be good but as you said we'll see what happens and we're learning as we go 😎
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808commented5 years ago
@@Lit_1, Yes bruv, more than likely a bitta both to be honest!!! I'm definitely moving up a pot size next time as I've got roots peepin out all over pot so I'm sure she would've flourished with more room!!! Hahaaaa, the venture continues.......Let's see what happens man, we're learning as we go!!! How are you doing with regards to humidity? There's no way I'm gonna be able to clock a 30-40% for late harvest!!! What dehumidifier do you run and do you deal with humidity inside or outside the tent?
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowscommentedweek 35 years ago
Your running your ph a little high for soiless in the veg stage. 5.8 is ideal for what the plants want at this stage. You only need to add a little calmag if your using coco coir. Ppm should be 4 to 500 until they start to vigorously grow
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@GMSgrows, Thank you. I've been using Nitric acid as my PH down during Veg as it breaks down to nitrogen just for this reason (during flower i switch to phosphoric acid). It also has to be a micro nutrient 'immobile' issue as its in the new growth and not the old growth. Nitrogen is a mobile nutrient and i believe the leaf color is healthy besides the new growth tips, which indicates micro nutrients. I'm not sure if its just because they are so new and i'm trying to see a problem where there isnt one. I believe its good to let the PH fluctuate a little bit in the healthy range so that the plant can take up certain nutrients it needs at more optimum PH levels. I'm not really a believer in runoff levels as you can get a pretty large discrepancy depending on your runoff on which nutrients happen to wash out during that time and which do not. Thanks for the help though all the same, i do appreciate it!
GMSgrows
GMSgrowscommented5 years ago
@@Lit_1,your correct there. But 5.8 is where your babies take up more nitrogen, that keeps your leaves green. Can't say for sure its calmag issue, if it is there is a reason why. Check your runoff make sure the ec is not way higher than what's going in. Luck my friend
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@GMSgrows, 6.2 is the proper PH for maximum CaMg uptake. The range of 5.6 to 6.6 is generally whats recommended. Still this doesn't answer my question "if the tips of the new growth are exhibiting any signs of a micro-nutrient deficiency, CaMg?"
Canna96
Canna96commentedweek 124 years ago
Very nice farming brother!!! Good luck the rest of the way!!!
Lit_1
Lit_1commented4 years ago
@Canna96,Thank you friend! Much appreciated!
Klunke_Dunk
Klunke_Dunkcommentedweek 15 years ago
I like your approach to growing. Good luck on your grow, which I'll be following :)
Lit_1
Lit_1commented5 years ago
@Klunke_Dunk, Thank you very much! I'm quite excited but understand that I'm a total newbie, so I'll document as much as i can. Any comments / suggestions are always appreciated!
MrJones
MrJonescommentedweek 65 years ago
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowscommentedweek 35 years ago
Good to see you have worked through your issues. Cheers
MrJones
MrJonescommentedweek 75 years ago
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