The temperature dropped to 29 degrees F. last night. Luckily my father helped move them to the barn where heat was applied and 2 150 watt hps lights were hung. Weather looks unseasonable cold. I need to work to bring these plants back.
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8/24 I had a wicked busy day. Humidity is through the roof I noticed some slight WPM come back. I'm getting sick of fighting this shit. I'm going to get a fungicide tomorrow. Those three mendo breath f1 phenos will be ready much sooner than the others. Buds are increasing in density.
8/25 I spotted a couple spots of WPM this morning. It's relatively minor but I went to the store and got an organic spray called garden safe 3 in 1 fungacide, miticide, insecticide. I came home and we were supposed to have showers off and on but I spot treated with it. I looked for lost coast plant therapy but I couldn't find it or get it in a time frame I was comfortable with. Plus I think I may have some random hoppers, thrips or aphids that this may help. I'll watch for any reaction to the fungacide and if things are fine I'll go ahead and treat the entire garden. It's cheap at $5.88 for 24 gallons. I do have some defoliation to do as well. I'm leaving one plant wild but the rest have been cleaned out fairly well. I have lots of work to do though. I added 3 14in extendable plastic arms to open up the flower mendo breath. Also I need to consider MOVING THE 3 LITTLE PLANTS OUT OF THE FENCE FOR BETTER AIRFLOW. I notice slight signs of nute burn on a few plants. Very minor. Plants are recovering great from heat stress. Humidity was 96% this morning though. Hard to battle that.
8/26 Since we got horrible sheet rain last night and I noticed WPM again I used that fungacide. I'll add a picture of the bottle. I hope it will work. I found one small plant in a 5 gal bucket knock over totally. Surprisingly no broken branches. The wind seemed like it wanted to take my whole garden up. Unbelievable. My cousin was there and he said he bet those mendos would be finished in a couple weeks. He looked at them and said the trichs have heads. I noticed that as well. The are some awful frosty buds but they still have pistols reach out. They have trichs with heads now but they won't be ready for a couple to a few weeks. That will be great! Then I could harvest 3 and have more room to work with. I phed a 5 gallon bucket and watered everything but the large one and the mendo in the tub. Larger containers. 50 gallon. I haven't checked the trichs with a real microscope yet but I'm going to be keeping an eye on them. I personally think the buds will plump up quite a bit more.
UPDATE: I went back over twice today. I took a few pictures that I will have to upload later as my phone died. I again went over to another plant tipped over totally as the others blow up against the restraints i've made. If these plants weren't strong trees that would be totally uprooted. The wind is so strong it was trying to tear the plants apart! I'm a little worried and I had to add additional support to the mendo breath reveg clone in the 40 gal tub. I put four stakes in the ground and ran rope around it. I then tied rope to the stalk and secured it against a post. It seems like that plant is now leaning on one of the stakes. After everything i've been through this year it would be a real kick in the nuts to lose my garden.
8/27 I went to the garden this morning and surprisingly found no broken branches. That crazy wind was almost uprooting my plants yesterday. They were practically at a 90 degree angle when the wind came around. The mendo breath in the 40 gallon tub got hit hardest. I'm glad I pot those stakes around it and attached a rope. A branch is kind of bracing itself against the post. No major problems and I didn't find much WPM today. I see some dieing leaves but that is common in flower. I have three mendo breath's that I believe will get the chop in 2-3 weeks. I took some pictures today but my phone died so I haven't been able to upload them. I would like to get some close pictures of some of the mendo breath colas. I'll upload what I have later on. I also need to finish defoliating and getting more string and REALLY opening things up to improve airflow and get sun to the inside of the plants. Any recommendations or advice would be greatly appreciated.
8/28 I am surprised my grow wasnt completely uprooted but I had NO broken branches from the wind. I added more supports where they were needed and watered the entire gallon. I believe 20 gallons was used to water these plants. No signs of WPM yet. I'll keep on top of it. I'm going to try to feed at least the 3 flowering mendos tomorrow. I may feed the whole garden.
8/29 Checked up top for spots of mold and found none. I made one gallon with 1/8 tsp Cha Ching, 1 tsp tiger bloom, 1/2 tsp CalMag, 1/2 tsp kelp and I fed that to the three mendo breath in late flower. The others I went low on the fed as well. I mixed a five gallon bucket up with 4 big bloom, 1 grow big, 1 calman, 1 tiger bloom, 1/2 kelp. I think these dosages are correct but vhf I left the paper at the garden. I'll double check. Slurricanes are flowering now. I'm getting excited.
UPDATE: It rained pretty much all day. The type of rain plants love. I hope this just pushed my nutes further to the roots and not flushed them out.
8/30 I've noticed what looks like deficiencies in some plants. Prob because of the change to flower. I've noticed similar markings on other foliage. Very strong wind gusts today. My plants have taken on much worse. I had to add additional supports. Every day is a day closer to enjoying the fruits of my labor. I dont like seeing those huge colas swaying at 90 degree angles though. (Exageration)
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Grow Questions
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hello fellow growers. My slurricane and mendo breath were transplanted outside in Maine. I've since experienced high winds and very low temps at night. Last night I moved them to the heated barn with two 150hps lights above them. What can I do to help my girls along. Thanks every
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BostonGirlGrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Down here is mass :)
I don’t move the plants outside for another few weeks due to unpredictable weather. Keep them warm and safe, until it’s at least 45-50 at night where you are. Don’t want to risk stunting them and your harvest, or worse. As far as wind, I’ve used 3foot bamboo stakes, or even if a pinch- a chopstick to support the stem. Just do it sooner rather then later, as there will be less of a chance you will damage any roots on the way down. See me critical purple diary for pics :)
Happy Growing 🌱
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
I live in maine and have several plants approximately 6ft tall in a fence that I made. However I'm getting lots of wind and trees block some sun in the evening. My question is should I move plants, dismantle my fence to move them closer to the house for direct light and wind blok
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NobodysBudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
if it adds hours of light or you think the wind could cause damage, i'd say it is worth the effort. How much light and how much danger? how difficult to move the stuff, etc. If not a ton more light, can put up some wind blockers.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
My outdoor grow is housed in a fence/building that's 12x12 and 8ft high.(See diary for pics). Since the trees have filled out they are blocking some direct sun. If I moved EVERYTHING over it would be a huge pain but would receive more direct sun. What would you guys do? Worth it?
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masterofsmeagolanswered grow question 4 years ago
Thank you for your answers. The structure stays where it is. They get approximately two hours of shade or "ambient light" before the sun is back around. Seeing that I've been dealing with heat and light stress I'm glad I kept it where it was. I've thinned put some trees which also allows for better placement of additional cameras and devices. I also have poles that can be thrown on top in a jiffy if needed and a tarp that can go up quick. I also took several air mattresses and cut them apart and zip ties and gorilla glue/taped them. It's big enough to throw over the top. If we get hail or other horrible things I'll be ready I'm glad I did this as the first tornado I've heard of touched ground about half hour away.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Anybody use preventative sprays? Considering using BT to proactively control pests. Anyone else proactively protect against pests? What products do you use?
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hello
Buy some dr bonners castile soap, and make a water/soap spray(its basically homemade insecticidal soap) it works amazing and breaks down the outer body of soft bodied insects. I also recommend getting old stages green cleaner because it kicks but on any mites and also fights pm like crazy.👍
*i usually keep neem around also because you can use alone or add to the green clean for about 2 months of cure.
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 4 years ago
I don't know I'm an indoor growing and I like to lean towards a non spray pure flower if possible type deal.... But if I was in an area that was known to have problems.. I'd do whatever it took for the ladies right.. So norcal is probably giving you the best advice there for sure.
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Nor_Cal_Kannablissanswered grow question 4 years ago
I personally use a Neem oil mix with Insecticidal soap. All organic. Spray every 7 days up untill the last 3 weeks of flower. Working great for me in my yard, Neighbor who didn't treat his isn't doing so well.. Happy growing! 👊
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
I have a clone I had taken and it's doing good. My garden is enclosed in a 12x12 locked fence. I'm wondering what size size I should transplant this clone into or go in ground. It's in a 3 gallon now. My others are in 30gallons-100 gallons. Would 10 be enough?
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NobodysBudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
kinda depends on region and how much vege growth you are going to get - all about size of the plant at the end as far as what you "need."
i know at smaller sizes "they" say 1 gallon per 1-foot of vertical growth, but not sure how well that translates to larger plants outdoors. If it's growing taller than 4-5 feet, i'd go with a 20-gallon. you can assess rootball and how much it filled it out when you harvest and determine if you can go down a size or not based on comfort of the roots in the pot. (ie not rootbound)
outside you should be thinking kg not g. 😁 muahahaha!
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
I check my plants multiple times a day every day. I found this spot and I'm hoping someone can identify the type of pest. I treated pillars with BT a few days ago. This was not here last night. It had also been raining of that helps. Thanks in advance.
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miggsanswered grow question 4 years ago
candy striped leaf hoppers leave identical scarring on my girls , only thing to do is safers or some other insectcidal soaps before buds form.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Name the deficiency. Plants are healthy and six months old. Grown in 30g happy frog/ffof with off nutes. Haven't seen many others like this. Just a dying leaf? Everything else looks good.
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Bloombusteranswered grow question 4 years ago
Привет, брат! 👋
Я вижу твои растения уже взрослые! 💪
Если ты заметил такое в нижних уровнях растения, не на макушках, то это естественный процесс взросления, бро! Ей может не хватать удобрений для наращивания новых точек роста и она их заимствует из больших веерных листьев, как у тебя на фото! 👆
Не стоит переживать, если это наблюдается внизу растения! 👇
Удачи, братан! ✊😇
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
My mendo breath is beginning to show preflower. Plants are 6 months old. Even some of the 2nd gen ones too. When should I switch to flowering nutrients? Just small preflowers right now but very noticeable. If anyone has time check diary. Thanks so much for all the help.
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hello
If you were going indoors you'd go off the light hours and start bloom at 12/12.
But with us outdoor grows i would usually bring in the open sesame as soon as there was a good boost of preflowers but in nice low doses once a week or two weeks.
My outdoor typically starts to flower here at the beginning/ mid August, so i would go ahead and start the tiger bloom at some low doses now until you see the flowers develop and then start using full doses.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Would you consider this in flower? I call it preflower but I'm wondering if so should I switch up nutes? I'm using ff line. Most of dirty 12. Happy frog/ffof. Mendo breath. Thanks. Happy growing! If photo doesnt upload please see diary. Tia
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Would you consider this in flower? I call it preflower but I'm wondering if so should I switch up nutes? I'm using ff line. Most of dirty 12. Happy frog/ffof. Mendo breath. Thanks. Happy growing! If photo doesnt upload please see diary. Tia
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GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
She is starting to flower. Go half veg half flower nutes first flower feed,,at veg rate. Next feed time go to reduced flower feed. Half what the label says. If u see they need more then increase a little each feed. Mid flowering is your max nutes, but not what the label says., by what your girls tell u. Late flower, decrease back to your start of flower amount. Nice looking girls. Cheers friend
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
I applied spinosad tonight and after I finished it started to rain. I used a drop of dawn as well. We even had unheard of tornado warnings. Will I need to reapply? Thanks everyone.
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hello
If you're having heavy weather then i would suggest reapplying your treatments. I personally have had the best success with making a soap water spray but i use Dr Bonner's castile soap, something about Castile soap has a better ability to break down their outer body...yes regular soap works too but consider getting some dr b. The soaps have to be used several times as they are a pretty gentle method and wash off easily.
If moisture is a concern for any PM or things like that you could invest in old stages green clean which is very good at battling pm and mites and some other bugs too.
Good luck with the tornado's, your outdoor is looking beautiful. ✌️
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Quick question. How do you outdoor growers feed. Ex.g,
Say I feed a gallon of mixed PHed nutes to my crop. Do you water as well? What if the soil is already wet like from a rain? If so before or after the nutes? I've looked online EVERYWHERE and cannot find an answer. Thank
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey friend,
So i think it's open to interpretation, that's why there isn't a lot of specific guidelines like indoor.
I've done grows where i top dress the dry amendments once a week or once every two weeks and then it breaks itself down into the soil with every watering. It worked well for the most part.
Then I've done liquid nutrients and when i do that i have my days of plain Ph'd water, and then the days where i feed i just mix up all the water i need with all the nutrients and soak each pot entirely. Either using a 3 gallon bucket or a 5, but you can always do 1 gallon especially if you notice one plant is needing more or less of something than the others.
Rain water is so good for plants, so don't let that disrupt your schedule unless it's been raining so much for many days to where the soil is basically all wet. Because then you might end up over watering. But definitely take advantage of rain when you can. It's higher in oxygen and helps free up many micronutrients. 👍
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
I'm in central maine. We have trop storm warning w high winds 40-50mph. I was thinking if things got bad enough I could put tarps or something around my entire fence and secure them while also staking and securing the entire structure. Pic is structure months ago. Thoughts?
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masterofsmeagolanswered grow question 4 years ago
Tropical storm warning was canceled last minute. We got some hard rain but it just did my plants some good. I have them pretty well supported as is. Not even a broken branch. They actually looked BETTER if anything lol.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
I found WPM on a few leaves. I was spraying spinosad at night. I stupidly thought spinosad would take care of that to. LED light showed much more PM but early stage. In A.M. sprayed 1tbsp baking soda, soap, veg oil per gal. Used 2 gallons. Will any of this interact? Thanks
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hempy4meanswered grow question 4 years ago
I use those ingredients per 1 gallon. I also rotate sprayings with a 1 part water to 1 part milk. I also spray varients with mineral oil and cold pressed neem oil. You may not ever get rid of the mildew, but you can significantly control it. Cutting off affected growth using sterilized methods keeps it at bay also. Don't help spread it.
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
I may over did it with nutes. Upped dosage from one gal to two than 3. Added beastie bloom. I'm losing some leaves and see signs of var def ilike i'm in lockout. I'm hesitant to flush and hope goes back with low nutes later on. anyone willing to look through my diary and advice?
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masterofsmeagolanswered grow question 4 years ago
@Gmslave thank you for your considerate and respectful response. You are right I need better equipment and it is much easier to rectify an underfed plant. I have an anxiety disorder that makes me second guess myself. Im usually my worst enemy. It's nice when folks take the time to help others. I love this group. Thanks you so much. I'll leave the question open just to see if I get any other good tips.....
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DrJynx86answered grow question 4 years ago
Seems you know what you're doing, why ask if whatever the reply is you're expecting to do something already?
You know the answer, flushing, and stopping to give higher nutrient dosages.
Why the question?
Happy smokes!
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GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
You need a ph tds reader to feed the proper amounts, keep an eye on the amount of ec coming from your runoff and ph is in proper range. Nothing I see looks to bad, just water for a week or 2 until your ec lowers if you feel safe to do so, if not then flush them and feed at half the rate. Less is best, you can easily remedy underfed plants. Pain in the arse to fix overfed plants and it hurts your final yield. Cheers friend
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Ok so we had sheet rain here. I took everyone's advice and took this opportunity to also flush my plants. What's next? When do I start adding nutes again and at what reduced ratio. Thanks to any that reply.
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The8thChevronanswered grow question 4 years ago
If you're flushed, then you can start feeding at a regular amount. Once you've brought the ppms of the runoff down to or less than your feed, then you're all set. If your runoff ppms start climbing again, you're overfeeding. In a perfect world, your ppms would be the same going in as coming out so aim for that.
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Does anyone have experience with foxfarm products like beastie bloom and cha ching? I've tried to use them at 1/8 dose and still got burn/possible lockout. What is the proper amount to feed of the solution once mixed also? TIA
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 4 years ago
if your using it at 1/8 and still getting burn and lockout.. IT's time to think about using a different product... Green Planet maybe? Or Gaia Green.. Definitely don't use anything by companies that start with A.....
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The8thChevronanswered grow question 4 years ago
General Hydroponics Trio works well for me. Bloom boosters are famous for causing lockout and their effectiveness is debatable. All evidence is purely anecdotal. They're great for quickly fixing deficiencies quick, but I dont put much more stock into them.
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey Guys! Still dealing with WPM. I've been using a few different methods. I have 3 mendos in late flower any recommendations?
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 4 years ago
Harvest Miracle.. Contact your local grow store and see if they stock it. It's can be used on flowering plants and is a big seller.. it works.
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GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
40% homoginized milk 60% water and spray the affected areas. Reapply as needed. Wont hurt a thing. Cheers
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Chucky324answered grow question 4 years ago
Hello. I tried something new this year and was happy with the result. The product is White Wash a frequency altered water. Yes it is a bit pricy if you only use it once. But if you put a large tray under where you sprayed, you can catch the runoff and reuse it till you have no more, with no drop in effectiveness. Good Luck. Chuck.
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masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 4 years ago
Can I use the mixture per gallon of 1 tbsp of baking soda, veg oil and dawn on plants in late flower? I only have a couple weeks left. Buddy said I could and just rinse before I harvest.
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jovasgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
you can, but its increases chances of budrot so id avoid if possible. but theres pests also posing risk it is best to do what you can to control them. i would do a water cure in this situation at harvest.
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masterofsmeagolanswered grow question 4 years ago
Labossanova there is no "ONE WAY" to combat ANYTHING. No you didnt come close to hitting the mark of answering my question. Your "advice" was shallow uninformative and your tone seemed to be "talking down." You even had to leave a comment saying, "I hope I answered your question" from a long time ago that I already fixed on my own while I had covid. I'm a psychologist. Please don't speak down to me. This isnt a place to stroke your ego.
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CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 4 years ago
the only way to combat bad bacteria is with good bacteria, next time add beneficials throughout and it will naturally take care of itself. Does that make sense? Hope this helps ! 🚀
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 164 years ago
Harbringer I love your name! NorCal thanks for taking the time to respond. I personally am not a fan of neem oil. However it sounds like you've got a great system going. I think I'll start my preventative spray tonight. I'm in Maine most dont start until June 1st. I got antsy and got my clones in February lol. Way to long of a veg but instead of putting out 12" clones I put out 6ft clones. By harvest I'll have had so much time invested that I'm not going to let some bastard moth or something ruin it. Happy growing everybody and thank you all for the advice.
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 154 years ago
6/5 watered everything mowed inside the cage and added more zip ties to secure the fence a little better . Yesterday three more Slurricanes were added. 2 more mendo breath and one more slurricane will round the garden out tommorow. I've given clones to neighbors to help secure my shit. I have cameras and audio but having good neighbors really helps.
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 144 years ago
5/31 and 6/1 tarps were placed up as wind breaks. Considering moving plants to more secure location with more sun and a better wind break
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 124 years ago
Checked moisture on 5/12. Medium needs sometime to dry out. For the most part the plants are improving. On another note 3 cuttings I took have rooted and placed them in 1 gallon fabric pot.
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 124 years ago
5/11 We went from extreme cold to having some decent sun it was in the 60's and plants received several hours of sunlight. Once the weather stabilizes I will look at putting plants outdoors. In another note I've seen the first of several roots on the cuttings I took may 2nd.
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 114 years ago
After a large wind storm I was forced to brace my plants. I will try to upload a picture. Luckily there was minimal damage from last night. There have been unseasonable strong winds. I also fed 1tsp per gallon of kangoroots, microbe brew and unsulfered molasses.
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 114 years ago
Thanks for the kind words. I still have work to do and cages to put up bit I'll get there. This seems like a great tool and I look forward to learning from you all!
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Inganjawetrustcommentedweek 244 years ago
You are going to have some beasts👹👹 there 👍 best of luck
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masterofsmeagolcommented4 years ago
@Inganjawetrust, thanks for the kind words. They are already getting out of hand. That fence is 8ft high. I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch though. ;)
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Experimentgreencommentedweek 224 years ago
your plants are looking amazing! I'm so jealous! I was way late getting my plants out doors and now they won't be nice 6+ feet tall beasts.☹️ but I'm still lucky to be outside at all.
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masterofsmeagolcommented4 years ago
@Experimentgreen,
I've browsed your diaries and coming from you that is a great compliment. Thank you so much, you made my day!
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SegaYGriegacommentedweek 313 years ago
Привет бро, не забывай отвечать на комментарии ! Успехов 👍
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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 314 years ago
hey there, hope i answered your question, anything else you need just let me know 👊
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Ferenccommentedweek 274 years ago
Strong! @masterofsmeagol
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Inganjawetrustcommentedweek 214 years ago
Nice looking garden🌱best of luck ✌️
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Growingkittencommentedweek 164 years ago
Looking good! 😺
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Ginger_gnomecommentedweek 114 years ago
Love the outside garden set up. That'll help keep the animals out forsure.
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MadeInGermanycommentedweek 114 years ago
Nice garden
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masterofsmeagolcommentedweek 174 years ago
Hope you guys like the video. It takes forever for me to upload those. It's good to have it all in one place anyway.
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DoDrugs420commentedweek 313 years ago
Slayin it, the best of the best.
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masterofsmeagolcommented3 years ago
@DoDrugs420, thank you my friend! Happy growing!
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gottagrowsometimecommentedweek 312 years ago
Should be very proud with what you've done buddy. Been scanning your wks. Had high temps like you had in week 17 here 2 but I was indoors was hitting 33c someday inside my tents. Have to try that BT stuff. Dealing with gnats myself as I have lots of nice fungus. Anyways, enjoy the rest of your grow. Some lovely fade on that girl. You timed it perfectly. Some top class looking bud. Enjoy pal. I'm the same BTW. I won't hit the harvest button anymore until I taste as I unfairly marked a strain on her finishing badly but turned out to be nice stuff and can't change it upon smoke report. Enjoy your bounty.
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