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Green Poison F1 Fast Version -- Redux!

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Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 6, 8
LST
weeks 6, 8-9, 11-14
Sphagnum Peat
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
Vermiculite
Grow medium
11 L
Pot Size
Strain
Green Poison Fast Versionยฎ
Sweet Seeds
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Neutral
Second round was better. No fingus among us this time on any plants. A little extra frost and finished 13 days faster. Have 2 different aromas. #1 is nice and sweet and orange-like. The other is similar but more skunky/ccreamy smell with less distinct orange undertones. Potency should be better than last time. It is a good high but not going to blow your mind. This is the main reason for the 9/10. Have to leave headroom above this one. Looks incredibly pretty. Nice colorful undertones to a very healthy green. It has fairly dense nugs, too. Yield is exceptional. I didn't properly fill space, yet I expect a very nice return from a small 30" x 30" space with ~200watts of power. Just going to exclude #2 for the harvest data. It is 16 days behind and did not fit into that same space with other 2. Flower time is faster than I thought - 51 cycles of 12-12 on second run. Cloning -- VERY SLOW CLONER! I usually transplant within 16-21 days. This thing didn't show vegetative growth for 24-25 days and using root hormone. Another week beyond that to transplant. Takes ~28 days to clone. No big deal, as this requires very little resources the first ~24 days. Ambient light is sufficient. Can easily start these 4 weeks earlier than needed and have no issues.
The Outcome
Week 15
Harvest
What's on the scales?
240
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
1250
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.58
mยฒ
ftยฒ
Grow Room size
1.2
g / watt
413.37
g / mยฒ
240
g / plant
1.72
plant / mยฒ
344.47
watt / mยฒ
Tastes like
Citrus
Fruity
Sweet
Feels like
50% Sativa 50% Indica

Positive effects

Creative
Energetic
Euphoric

Negative effects

Dry eyes
Reviews. Nutrient
Believe the science is true, but quantifiable impact is difficult to say with any confidence from an end-user standpoint with a small garden.
Reviews. Lamp
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NobodysBuds NobodysBuds
4 years ago
Second round was better. No fingus among us this time on any plants. A little extra frost and finished 13 days faster. Have 2 different aromas. #1 is nice and sweet and orange-like. The other is similar but more skunky/ccreamy smell with less distinct orange undertones. Potency should be better than last time. It is a good high but not going to blow your mind. This is the main reason for the 9/10. Have to leave headroom above this one. Looks incredibly pretty. Nice colorful undertones to a very healthy green. It has fairly dense nugs, too. Yield is exceptional. I didn't properly fill space, yet I expect a very nice return from a small 30" x 30" space with ~200watts of power. Just going to exclude #2 for the harvest data. It is 16 days behind and did not fit into that same space with other 2. Flower time is faster than I thought - 51 cycles of 12-12 on second run. Cloning -- VERY SLOW CLONER! I usually transplant within 16-21 days. This thing didn't show vegetative growth for 24-25 days and using root hormone. Another week beyond that to transplant. Takes ~28 days to clone. No big deal, as this requires very little resources the first ~24 days. Ambient light is sufficient. Can easily start these 4 weeks earlier than needed and have no issues. ______________________________________________________ Familiar with the plant, so the review is likely finished. I'll likely update some notes below about drying process. Gonna be lazy about my drying process. When i think they are close i'll jar some nugs with 2-way humidipaks for enough hours to determine any change of mass. As long as it doesn't continue to lose weight, the rest is ready to be jarred. Remaining Bloom Notes 104 / 48-32 Days - Still looking pretty. Quickly changing trichomes. This is slightly different than the past. Frost is looking a little extra thick today, too. This may be coming down in a hurry. Want to see how it progresses a bit further. PM - Quite a bit more amber up top compared to previous days. Still some clear in mid and lower areas, but donโ€™t see a trichome without a fat head. Nice tall stalks. Probably the best Iโ€™ve done so far, and a good baseline for future grows. Two significant changes occurred since first grow. The lights are less intense and better watering habit. Itโ€™s not just 1 of the seed-lines, either. Weโ€™ll see how #2 develops, but expect it to also finish faster. Minor change to substrate coming up then a long period of consistency is coming. 105 / 49-33 Days - Still too many clear trichomes lower on nugs. Day-to-dayโ€ฆ Scope in PM. Looks about ready by the eye. 106 / 50-34 Days - I like the progress. Giving another day. Harvest is imminent. 107 / 51-35 Days - #1 and #3 harvest. #2 is ~16 days behind. This is 13 days faster than previous iteration of same genetics. Splitting hairs, but these look better too. Potentially more frost, but they were fairly frosty last time too. **Drying notes** 108 / 36 / 1 Days - #2 is ready for water. Drying - filled up 2 entire levels of mesh rack. Similar yields. Letting #1 stretch a bit more like #3 is the goal in future. Fewer leaves, it seemed in lower portions, less shielded etcโ€ฆ lankier and less bulky. Keep oscillating around this โ€˜preferred/intendedโ€™ point until I find it. Canโ€™t wait to smoke it. It grew more healthily, maybe itโ€™ll taste different tooโ€ฆ 109 / 37 / 2 Days - Hopefully, #2 isnโ€™t too thick. RH is low, should be low risk. Still some softness to buds, good sign. 110 / 38 / 3 Days - Getting close due to winter air. Jars sanitized and ready. #2 needs irrigation first thing tomorrow. Same with the donor. The polyfilm grow bags reduce evaporation, but reduction of O2 to roots seems irrelevant so far. Jarred after 3.5 days. Each lost about .05g from ~30g over a few hours with 8g 2-way 55% RH packs. So, probably about the right time. 3.5 days is a bit fast. Some jars smell excellent already. Some still have a grassy smell or small hint of it remains. This shouldnโ€™t be a problem. Burping 2 times per day. Safe guess >120g from each. ~250g total - trying to underguess by 5-10g based on current weight. 2 plants vs 4 hindered maximizing space. Will push 300-350 with 36 colas (vs. 24) in same space and a slightly deeper zone of buds. 111 / 39 / 4 Days - Weighed testers again in afternoon. Lost ~.1 grams over greater than 12 hours. I did not write down time i jarred them. So, they are still losing weight, but negligible amounts. This is when i want to consistently jar my nugs. I want the 2-way packs to absorb some fraction of a gram of weight. That also prolongs how long they'd work with that batch, not that rehydrating them is difficult to do. Added a couple more pictures today. No buds, but will add some dried buds pictures when I can. The #2 plant is still in bloom. It looks nice. It won't be included in the results due to being relative to 1/2 box, and not 1/2 box plus a bit more space and light. That wouldn't balance out. Results are based on 30"x30" area only. 112 / 40 / 5 Days - Losing .15g per 24 hours in jars. Leaving open for 2 hours to ensure itโ€™s not simply burying the needle in a small enclosed environment. Smoked a blunt of #1 and it tasted good already. Other plant smells different, but have not smoked any. Zero flush, fairly fast dryโ€ฆ tastes better than drying it over 7 days and a water-only diet last 5-7 days, LoL I felt this way about another clone-clone harvest comparison. Greater than 3 days seems enough. #2 is picking up the pace. Smells more like #3 than #1. Nugs are huge. Stigmata coloration started 2-3 days ago. Think itโ€™s light related on taller colas - more on top of those colas. Still similar timeline to #1 and #3. These are very consistent genetics in that respect, growth, structure etc. Seems to be at least 2 aromas, and one is definitely sweeter. 113 / 41 / 6 Days - #2 heavy in AM. Lost about a gram with jars open yesterday. Not moist on outside of buds anymore, no more stickingโ€ฆ lost .1g over night. Probably a few more days to reach equilibrium at 55% RH. 114 / 42 / 7 Days - Losing .1g per day. Not sticky in jar, but 2-way packs are 9g, not sure how high they go. May leave open for an hour tomorrow. #2 is progressing quickly, drinking quickly. 115 / 43 / 8 Days - #2 is progressing well. While it doesnโ€™t smell as good as #1, definitely smells better than #3 - along a creamier aroma more so than sweet. Looks to finish around same time as others - roughly 2 weeks faster than first run. Probably wonโ€™t see the finish of #2. This update will be last for the diary. Lost .1g or so in both jars. Leaving them all open for at least 1 hour today. They arenโ€™t overly moist, I just want to progress to 1 burp per day faster. Once I get that equilibrium weight, donโ€™t have to worry as much. Since #1 and #2 tester jars get way more exposure each day, seal 15-30mins sooner. Can feel small difference in buds between the jars at this point. 116 / 44 / 9 Days - Both jars lost about 0.35g. Thatโ€™s more than 24hours and opened for ~1hour. I donโ€™t expect these can lose much more. Exterior has been good for a couple days. #2 is looking really nice. Excellent visible progress. These will be nice mutton chop buds. 117 / 45 / 10 Days - Not ready for irrigation. Slight slowdown? Will check in PM. Wonโ€™t let it wilt at this stage and one early irrigation wonโ€™t cause a calamity. Looking pretty, smelling good and the canopy is strong. No issues. Possibly last pics tomorrow of #2. Nugs still losing 0.05g-0.1g per day in jars. Leaving open for 30-45 mins today. Again, not wet on outside or fear of growth, but new 2-way packs may be at capacity or not. 11th day, so Iโ€™m not worried about speeding it up a little at this point. Makes the room smell fucking amazing. The 2 aromas mix well. After 1 hours, lost .25g and .20g from #3 and #1, respectively. About proportional to mass difference between the two, so they are at same point. Written down, compare tomorrow. 118 / 46 / 11 Days - Getting closer. Still losing weight each day. Nugs feel right on outside. Lost about half as much as normal, but 16 of 24 horus. Good sign as it was >12 hours. So, loss of mass is slowing down. The husk of plant is still healthy and strong 11 days later. limited light, no water since couple days before harvest. I feel good about how i treated this plant. (up to cutting it down, then not so much) 119 / 47 / 12 Days - Triches look pretty close. Not much glass seen. Not much amber, either. Test jars lost .06g each over ~24 hours. Second day of half the recent rate. May leave open for 30-60mins again today. Drying is done. Curing has begun. #1 definitely tastes and smells better. A very sweet smell to it. It was already transplanted to donor section a while back. This confirms the choice. This diary is complete. The math is all fucked up so i had to put "1" plant into information. 2 plants were grown and considered for the 30"x30" area results, but let's get the remedial math fixed, eh? Keep it simple. Number of plants is irrelevant to this metric -- G/Watt. g/watt/plant makes as much sense as OPS in baseball -- that's just randomly adding 2 metrics together (on base + slugging) for no rational reason and thinking it's magic afterward. g/w/plant is a terrible metric to use in the first place, because it can mean several different things. Several factors can cause any correlation you believe to exist to go up in smoke. it has a very weak correlation to productivity for this reason.
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Ned_Grows
Ned_Growscommentedweek 134 years ago
Good bud development and stacking up nicely, they are going to be good ๐Ÿ‘Œ
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 14 years ago
Nice choice for your grow, wish you a good grow. Good luck and stay lit growmie. ๐Ÿ˜
Frenchie
Frenchiecommentedweek 144 years ago
6 weeks into flowering and the buds look really fat. How long more do you thing they need?
Frenchie
Frenchiecommented4 years ago
@@NobodysBuds, ok nearly ready, not that long to wait probably. What do you mean with better watering habit?
L_Tetragrammaton
L_Tetragrammatoncommentedweek 154 years ago
Looking very fire! ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒฒ I can smell it for sure now lol
MrJones
MrJonescommentedweek 134 years ago
Buds are really starting to fatten up, should not belong for harvest!
northernMike
northernMikecommentedweek 124 years ago
frosty๐Ÿ‘Œ Nice pics too!! Later!
DYNOMYCO
DYNOMYCOcommentedweek 124 years ago
Looking frosty and healthy ! โœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿฝ
DYNOMYCO
DYNOMYCOcommented4 years ago
@@NobodysBuds, Awesome ! How is the mycorrhizae treating you? From the pictures it looks like it's doing good things !!
Buddha2
Buddha2commentedweek 154 years ago
Wow, what a massive harvest! Congratulations! Enjoy! ๐Ÿ‘
DreamOn
DreamOncommentedweek 154 years ago
Looks amazing! Enjoy the puffs! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Bloombuster
Bloombustercommentedweek 154 years ago
good job buddy! congratulations on the harvest! ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
deFharo
deFharocommentedweek 154 years ago
Buena cosecha, enhorabuena!! ๐Ÿ‘†
MrJones
MrJonescommentedweek 154 years ago
Still, very close to harvest! Looking great!
Polaskis
Polaskiscommentedweek 144 years ago
Looking SEXY!!!! Great job as per usual ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ’ฏ
FoTwenny
FoTwennycommentedweek 134 years ago
Looking absolutely amazing! Great work! ๐ŸŒซ๏ธโ˜บ๏ธโœŒ๏ธ๐ŸŒซ๏ธ
L_Tetragrammaton
L_Tetragrammatoncommentedweek 124 years ago
Looking very nice! I love that you are slightly ahead of me on the poison grow. Whatโ€™s to come type deal and itโ€™s stacking very nice!
Polaskis
Polaskiscommentedweek 124 years ago
Looking amazing ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ‘Œ
MrJones
MrJonescommentedweek 94 years ago
Moving along nicely @@NobodysBuds! Great Progress with your Garden! ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘Please Check Out My Newest Diary's๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ
Ned_Grows
Ned_Growscommentedweek 64 years ago
I like the way you put the clay pebbles in the buckets under the fabric pots for drainage, I'm going to adopt this method thanks for the idea ๐Ÿ‘
MrJones
MrJonescommentedweek 54 years ago
Another week in the books -they look great!
Greenfingeress
Greenfingeresscommentedweek 44 years ago
Hi there, are you saying that 30-35 days are the best time to take clones ? As you certainly know what your doing ๐Ÿ€