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weeks 3-13
Defoliation
weeks 5-13
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Grow medium
20 L
Pot Size
1.2 L
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Grow Conditions
Week 3
Vegetation
10
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Height
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TheBonnieRobin TheBonnieRobin
4 years ago
Day 7: Firstly, shout out to everyone who helped me with my watering question. Had to look it up but I get the 'run off' concept now and understand how to apply it. Will start the new approach tomorrow. I can only select one answer as The One, but really my approach will be a combo of all, so thanks to everyone that chipped in. I am feeding per the BioBizz plan, does this mean I still need to half those nutes? Sadly snapped a fan leaf whilst doing a bit of training work. Now I hate myself and want to cry but presumably planty will crack on. Day 6: Raised the light again and starting to see a bit more stretch and spacing between nodes which should make the LST a bit easier. I'm also tucking and tinkering with the existing training to get as much light to potential bud sites as poss and keep the canopy wide and low. She still seems pretty short compared to other GCs I see in other diaries. But I'm not stressing too much as she seems pretty healthy and happy. Day 4: Not much to report. Fan leaves are growing prolifically but I'm still not getting much in the way of height or stretch. Generally, very compact and bushy, and LST isn't doing much to expose lower bud sites. Will bide my time. Am now lifting out to water/feed which is allowing me a bit more room to get closer to the main stem before watering the rest of the pot. Day 3: Shout out to everyone who helped with my questions. Thank you! Raised my light to encourage a bit of stretching and am going to leave it until Friday to make a call on topping. Feel like I want to get this first grow away with just LST now and getting into a flow with watering and feeding, just to give this one its best chance. But will see how this week goes. My tent is seriously tiny, I might need all the tricks I can get. Two things I learnt this weekend: 1) Next time, fill airpots to the top with soil, that way when you water, the water doesn't run direct off the top and out the holes at the side. Not sure what I can do about this now other than maybe blocking the top row of holes? 2) If using a plastic syringe to measure nutrients, read the measurements properly and make sure you are measuring in 1ml and not 0.1ml !!!!! FFS. 3) Watering is harder than it looks. Need to refine technique so that I water around the stem without splashing the plant too much and then around the edge of the pot without losing a tonne through airport holes. Day 1: Not going to lie, every time I unzip the tent flaps I'm expecting to see little more than a charred stalk withering to nothing. So it is a constant source of joy and amazement to find this little one thriving. Trying to get a bit more organised as we go into week three. Am pre empting topping at some point this weekend and upping the nutrient plan per BioBizz guidance. Gonna make up a little foliar spray too. If we have enough stretching as the week progresses then I'll start the LST too. At the moment there doesn't appear to he enough leverage for bending. I need to stay on top of the humidity too. I've got some bowls of water spread around in the tent. If they dry out overnight (happened a few times) then the RH can drop to under 40% which I understand is not good news. Also, I've had to switch the osc fan off every now and then to give myself a break from the noise but have been warned against leaving it off for more than 15 mins at a time.. so I need to rethink this a little. Still debating whether to invest in a bigger tent now or run out this first grow and see how it goes. It's going to get quite bushy in there I fear. Thank you for your encouragement. It's good to be here. x
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Grow Questions
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 4 years ago
Is it time to top? I feel like I need a little bit more stretching first. Maybe even allow another node to develop? When should I top in relation to feeding/watering and lights out?
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Techniques. Topping
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MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAanswered grow question 4 years ago
Wait another week. Top only if your plant looks healthy. If not then you can just LST without topping. Good luck.
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 4 years ago
Thanks for reading. Currently watering/feeding 0.5l every 24 hours. Routinely. Light mix is pretty much dry by the time it comes to the next feed. Getting about 10 ml runoff maybe with each soak. Should I double the volume and water/feed every 48 hours instead? Does it matter? Xx
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Feeding. Schedule
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
At this point you should be wetting the entire planter so your roots can spread beyond the wet areas. Water as necessary. Cheers
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 4 years ago
Upped my nutes this week per the BioBizz Lite Mix plan...but is it too much? The tips of a few of my leaves are ever so slightly yellow with crispy looking tips. Too much? If I need to dial back, which nutrient do I dial back on specifically? Or just dial back on them all?
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Feeding. Chemical composition
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 4 years ago
Seems like the start of a Nitrogen (N) burn! kinda hard to see exactly which toxicity it is by this picture but your diary gave the answer! Leaves developing a dark green coloration while still in vigor were the clues. Try lowering your biobizz "Fish-Mix" to about 1.5-2ml/l and the "Bio-Grow" to about the same amount to lower the Nitrogen uptake. Also try lowering the Cal/Mag to about 0.5ml/l to avoid toxicity, it is a micro-nutrient and the plant does not need that much without showing a deficiency! Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 4 years ago
I'm using a Mars Hydro Ts600. Manufacturers advice is to keep height at 12'' minimum above the canopy in flower but other growers report it can hang as low as 10''. In identifying optimum height how would I be able to tell if it was too low for my plants? What should Iook for?
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 4 years ago
The Ts600 is only a 100W designed for a small space, if you want to check how far you can distance your lamp from the plant try lowering the lamp to as low as 8-10 inches (seems like you're in flowering so I'd try going with 8) and check you plant regularly, if she shows signs of radiation/light stress (foliage starts to fold and curl upwards starting from the top of the plant) then move the light 2 inches higher! Also don't forget that in flowering the plant needs more light to produce fatter and denser buds! *I started using the TS600 as extra lighting during flowering, I got it set 5 inches from my plants and they're doing completely fine! it all depends on the plant and what stage of growth she is in. Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 4 years ago
I'm watering with 2l of RO/nutes every 48-72 hours, depending on moisture of soil. Estimate about 10-15% of this is runoff. I notice vigorous growth almost immediately after watering but then little more until after the next feed. Is this normal or should I be soaking heavier?
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Feeding. Schedule
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 4 years ago
With a 20 liter pot size I'd say go with a 3.5-4 liter nutrient rich irrigation every 2-3 days or when the top 5cm of the medium is dry! Make sure there is at least 20-30% runoff (more wont hurt), check the runoff for pH and salinity (EC) to get a good idea of your soil fertility and acidity to quickly fix issues before any serious damage is done or to prevent them from happening. Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 4 years ago
These big old fan leaves at the bottom of the picture (s) the ones hanging out the door of the tent....should I snip them off? How far do you go with the defoliation at this stage?
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Leaves. Too many
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispereranswered grow question 4 years ago
Firstly, this is an excellent grow to date my friend. Space is clean, and plant canopy is beautifully even. The photos are gonna dictate my answer on this question. My only advice is that you're now in week 5/6 of flower. At this point the plant won't be producing any further fan leaves so what you remove, ain't coming back. Realistically, a plant in a controlled environment shouldn't necessarily need any fan leaves - the argument being that these are nutrient storage locations and storage is not required when the plant is provided what it needs at all times. In practice however, the appropriate amount to defoliate at any time and at what frequency is very much grower preference. The plant won't necessarily suffer when you take the approach that less is more (on both counts). The real answer to your question is that it depends on you and what you're comfortable with. If it were me, I'd run back every large fan leaf on the plant, get rid of anything else in the middle that's mottled or twisted as well. Might as well do it now as these are going to have to go in like a week or two anyway to maintain appropriate airflow under the canopy into late flower. Good luck - it's truly addictive and yeah - planning that next grow is pretty the game👍
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Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 14 years ago
Good Luck! @TheBonnieRobin
c2_farms
c2_farmscommentedweek 94 years ago
nice plant mate!. mine looks a lot like yours think she will grow the same way.. runoff ain’t that important when you use biobizz.. not like you adjust it in the first place.. but if you water in the right way, runoff indicates that all the medium is saturated.. but there is a difference when you have runoff because the soil is bone dry and water just passes trough the sides immediately but first.. i would defoliate the hell out of that plant!! remove all those leaves laying on the pot that are giving you problems while watering..remove all palm size leaves ..trust me it will be a lot of leaves but she will be thankful :)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobincommented4 years ago
@c2_farms, thank you! I did some light trimming today and will see if I can summon the courage to go back for the big fan leaves in a couple of days, provided eveything else is on track. Thanks for the tips appreciate it. Xxx
c2_farms
c2_farmscommented4 years ago
@TheBonnieRobin,dont be scared, i was too when i first did it. its a normal thing to do..forget about them solar panels/food storage stuff.. in this stage its more beneficial to remove them so you can get better air flow and light penetration .. but do what makes you most comfortable ;)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobincommented4 years ago
@c2_farms, hey hey thanks so much for the encouragement and the advice. I'm scared of heavy defolitation this time out. Read lots of conflicting advice so I'm going to try and keep it low key with this grow and then push it a bit more on the next one. Gonna try and get two plants in the one tent so some tough love might be absolutely necessary. Great tips on the feeding and watering too. Thank you. Xx
GuerrillaNo_4
GuerrillaNo_4commentedweek 124 years ago
Those buds are really fat for first grow. You must have done months of research before you popped the seed!
GuerrillaNo_4
GuerrillaNo_4commented4 years ago
@TheBonnieRobin, well the results speak for themselves Bonnie. Those colas look insane for a first indoor grow. They'll take a while to dry though 😂 The best thing about growing for me, is it teaches me to appreciate my mistakes as learning experiences. Now I look forward to them!
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobincommented4 years ago
@GuerrillaNo_4, yeah, I've tried to read as much as possible. GD has been super helpful and have had some excellent advice from the community. Also, I did an outdoor grow last summer where pretty much anything that could be fked up....I fked up!! Really pleased with how this one has gone bit still A LOT to learn. Thanks for the shout out. Xx
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 114 years ago
hey mate, plant looks nice 💪
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommented4 years ago
@TheBonnieRobin, almost ready, wait till more than 95% of the pistils are brown, or take a good magnifier to look at the trichomes, most harvest at amber, some at milky, i myself often at milky
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobincommented4 years ago
@Smokwiri, nice one thanks. You reckon another couple of weeks before harvest?
NugLife420
NugLife420commentedweek 114 years ago
Nice 😎
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobincommented4 years ago
@NugLife420, thanks friend.
The_Bearded_Grower
The_Bearded_Growercommentedweek 94 years ago
looking good 💪
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobincommented4 years ago
@The_Bearded_Grower, thanks friend x
Canamatoes
Canamatoescommentedweek 74 years ago
Good luck mate👍🌱
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobincommented4 years ago
@@Canamatoes, nice 1 thanks. Xx
heizen
heizencommentedweek 64 years ago
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobincommented4 years ago
@heizen, nice one. thank you for the encouragement. x
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 133 years ago
Holy, that's some serious Green Crack Auto!
Harukisan
Harukisancommentedweek 134 years ago
Congratulations on your first indoor grow 👏 hope we're gonna see many more in the future
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 124 years ago
nice progression 💪
BeachGrower
BeachGrowercommentedweek 124 years ago
Looking real nice and fat!! Congrats!!
c2_farms
c2_farmscommentedweek 104 years ago
humidity likes to drop after defo but she will be fine trust me.. ;) she will be fine regarding nutes also... i personally follow biobizz charts (except i extended the veg week when growing autoflowers, so you have 3 weeks of veg on the schedule-recommended by guys from biobizz) and never have i had problems! the safer side is giving nutes every other watering i would snip everything off for what you asked for, all them leaves.. every leaf that has a stem longer than 5-10 cm can go down... thats how hard you can go :D you’ll have an easier job later when trimming defoliation its debative but i found it useful in my garden :) when i was learning how to grow and old man told me “throw a toothpick,if the toothpick can’t fall/pass trough from the top to bottom of the plant she aint defoliated enough “ lol
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 104 years ago
nice progress, keep up the good work mate 👌💪
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustcommentedweek 104 years ago
Nice looking grow and great attitude 👍😃 Best of luck 🥦✌️
c2_farms
c2_farmscommentedweek 94 years ago
and second i wouldn’t bother too much about those nute burn tips as that happens a lot with autoflowers.. just use nutes every other watering and y’all be perfect... no need for that flushing .. and use calmag once a week
Grow420pice
Grow420picecommentedweek 84 years ago
Sieht sehr gut aus! Hast sie schön breit gemacht mit LST und ein gleichmäßiges Baldachin bekommen 👍 Ich denke, du wirst sehr viel Freude an ihr haben! Ja, das könnte ein leichter Anfang von Nut burn sein... Trotz Organischen Dünger, möglich. Ich würde ohnehin fishmix herausnehmen, jetzt in der Blüte. Sowie cal meg nur bei Bedarf, Anzeichen. Ansonsten, keine Panik, sie macht das hervorragend... Nur im Auge behalten. 👍😎🌱
DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 54 years ago
Enjoy growth 🤟🍀🤠
WisdomCulture420
WisdomCulture420commentedweek 34 years ago
All is well 👍🌱💚 I wish you good growth and good luck for this culture 🤙👊
Taito
Taitocommentedweek 24 years ago
Buena suerte compañero😉