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Mars Hydro
LED/600W
Mars Hydro
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weeks 3-13
Defoliation
weeks 5-13
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Grow medium
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Week 10
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TheBonnieRobin TheBonnieRobin
3 years ago
Day 5 Thanks for visiting. Pics and quick status update today. Milky trichs are arriving and there are even a handful of amber ones towards the top of the main cola. Flush may have to start sooner than I anticipated. Will likely shed the last of the bigger leaves after feed this evening, although there are very few left. Plant does not appear to have been adversely affected by a series of mini defols over the last 10 days despite my anxieties. Moving the fan around as much as possible as it's getting tricky keeping the clusters of colas apart and i want to keep air moving between them where possible. Continually tweaking my low stress ties to try and maximise light and air circulation but it's not always possible with stiffer branches to contend with and limited space to pull colas into. Feed tonight will likely be close to full strength just to give those buds as much help as they can get. Expect maybe only 2 or 3 more feeds before flush....we'll see. Some pretty chunky buds in there I must say. Intrigued to see how much they put on over the next couple of weeks. Cheers and be as kind to yourself as you are to your plants. Little life tip for you there. Xxx Day 4 Just some pics tonight and a quick note to say thank you to those who answered my defolitation question re fan leaves. I'm actually going to sit tight for a few days as there has been some pretty consistent snipping over the last week or so. Like maybe 3 or 4 fairly busy sessions, so I might have lost track of how much I've taken. I wanna check it's still gonna grow at the same rate it's been going at over the weeks and it does seem to have slowed down a little after all the haircuts. I'm hoping reintroducing some of those nutes will give it a boost and I'm probably going to feed again tomorrow night. So towards the end of the week I'll have a better feel for it. Some of the leaves around the top of the tallest cola were curling up a bit and a teeny bit yellow so I lifted the light again. Been snooping some other GC diaries trying to figure out my timeline and moves for the end game. To no avail..very little consistency to harvest windows out there I'm GD land. Fk it ..I'm in no rush right now. My government says I can't even leave the house so ima let this one run and run... Thanks for stopping by. Xxx Day 3 Thanks for stopping by. Pleasr don't hold back with comments and advice. It's been super helpful so far. Pheweee...getting pretty stinky in there now. Took it out for a feed and water in the bath...and yeah.... that lingers! Another light feed today. Will monitor over the next few days. Feeding at about 60% the recommended bio bizz programme, except for top max and bloom since those have only recently been introduced into the programme. Figure at this stage better to just be cautious. Don't want to fk this up now. Not sure what I was expecting yield wise but suffice to say, this is going much better than i thought it would. Some of these colas, i mean, you can't really tell from the pics but like one is as long as my hand almost. Interested to see how they chunk up over the coming weeks. And to see how the lower ends come on now there is so much more light getting through. Must get the nutes right next time along with the rh. And the ph too. Ima nail that. (Weird...I cannot stop thinking about the next grow. It's compelling stuff this homebound horticulture. I'm a serial optimiser and this stuff....well, if you are wired that way it's great fun, right?) Some of the growth totally snook up on me as I checked my lamp height and it was pretty low, like less than 8 inches from the top of the tallest cola. I bought the light up a bit. Ima post a question on the defoliation. No doubt it has been super effective...but how far do you go? Not much else to say tonight. Look after yourselves out there. Day 1 Pretty happy right now. Went easy on the nutes again last week. Only two feeds and the second one 3 litre RO 4ml bloom, 2ml top, 2ml heaven, 4ml alg and 4ml acti. Will step up again on the next feed as everything seems to be stable. (Am too lazy to recalculate my weekly feed stats including these two numbers). Last week was a lot about defoliation. Had some great advice as ever from the community - thanks c2 farms - and indeed the plant is looking all the chunkier for it. I'm still not sure whether I could/should do another round. Will revisit next week. Temps are stable but RH is low and dropped even to 29% shortly after the second defoliation. I've got some water bowls in the tent now and we're back into the low 30s. But it still seems a bit low. Not sure if we are about half way through flower or not. Colas are getting frosty and pistils are very amber but no milky trichs. I'm thinking at least another two weeks before I even think about flushing. Maybe more.... GC seems to be 8-9 weeks flower so I guess there's a way to go yet. I'm enjoying this so much and already preparing for the next grow. Yay. Thanks for stopping by and thanks for all the encouragement. It really makes a difference. So bad with the virus where I am in the world right now. So much suffering. This beautiful specimen really helps me to be patient, stay focussed but also look forwards with a positive mindset. I hope your grows bring you the same dear friends.
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Grow Questions
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 3 years ago
Is it time to top? I feel like I need a little bit more stretching first. Maybe even allow another node to develop? When should I top in relation to feeding/watering and lights out?
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Techniques. Topping
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MaryJaneUSA
MaryJaneUSAanswered grow question 3 years ago
Wait another week. Top only if your plant looks healthy. If not then you can just LST without topping. Good luck.
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 3 years ago
Thanks for reading. Currently watering/feeding 0.5l every 24 hours. Routinely. Light mix is pretty much dry by the time it comes to the next feed. Getting about 10 ml runoff maybe with each soak. Should I double the volume and water/feed every 48 hours instead? Does it matter? Xx
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Feeding. Schedule
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 3 years ago
At this point you should be wetting the entire planter so your roots can spread beyond the wet areas. Water as necessary. Cheers
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 3 years ago
Upped my nutes this week per the BioBizz Lite Mix plan...but is it too much? The tips of a few of my leaves are ever so slightly yellow with crispy looking tips. Too much? If I need to dial back, which nutrient do I dial back on specifically? Or just dial back on them all?
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Feeding. Chemical composition
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 3 years ago
Seems like the start of a Nitrogen (N) burn! kinda hard to see exactly which toxicity it is by this picture but your diary gave the answer! Leaves developing a dark green coloration while still in vigor were the clues. Try lowering your biobizz "Fish-Mix" to about 1.5-2ml/l and the "Bio-Grow" to about the same amount to lower the Nitrogen uptake. Also try lowering the Cal/Mag to about 0.5ml/l to avoid toxicity, it is a micro-nutrient and the plant does not need that much without showing a deficiency! Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 3 years ago
I'm using a Mars Hydro Ts600. Manufacturers advice is to keep height at 12'' minimum above the canopy in flower but other growers report it can hang as low as 10''. In identifying optimum height how would I be able to tell if it was too low for my plants? What should Iook for?
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 3 years ago
The Ts600 is only a 100W designed for a small space, if you want to check how far you can distance your lamp from the plant try lowering the lamp to as low as 8-10 inches (seems like you're in flowering so I'd try going with 8) and check you plant regularly, if she shows signs of radiation/light stress (foliage starts to fold and curl upwards starting from the top of the plant) then move the light 2 inches higher! Also don't forget that in flowering the plant needs more light to produce fatter and denser buds! *I started using the TS600 as extra lighting during flowering, I got it set 5 inches from my plants and they're doing completely fine! it all depends on the plant and what stage of growth she is in. Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 3 years ago
I'm watering with 2l of RO/nutes every 48-72 hours, depending on moisture of soil. Estimate about 10-15% of this is runoff. I notice vigorous growth almost immediately after watering but then little more until after the next feed. Is this normal or should I be soaking heavier?
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Feeding. Schedule
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Stonerd
Stonerdanswered grow question 3 years ago
With a 20 liter pot size I'd say go with a 3.5-4 liter nutrient rich irrigation every 2-3 days or when the top 5cm of the medium is dry! Make sure there is at least 20-30% runoff (more wont hurt), check the runoff for pH and salinity (EC) to get a good idea of your soil fertility and acidity to quickly fix issues before any serious damage is done or to prevent them from happening. Hope this helps! Good luck and happy growing :)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobinstarted grow question 3 years ago
These big old fan leaves at the bottom of the picture (s) the ones hanging out the door of the tent....should I snip them off? How far do you go with the defoliation at this stage?
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Leaves. Too many
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispereranswered grow question 3 years ago
Firstly, this is an excellent grow to date my friend. Space is clean, and plant canopy is beautifully even. The photos are gonna dictate my answer on this question. My only advice is that you're now in week 5/6 of flower. At this point the plant won't be producing any further fan leaves so what you remove, ain't coming back. Realistically, a plant in a controlled environment shouldn't necessarily need any fan leaves - the argument being that these are nutrient storage locations and storage is not required when the plant is provided what it needs at all times. In practice however, the appropriate amount to defoliate at any time and at what frequency is very much grower preference. The plant won't necessarily suffer when you take the approach that less is more (on both counts). The real answer to your question is that it depends on you and what you're comfortable with. If it were me, I'd run back every large fan leaf on the plant, get rid of anything else in the middle that's mottled or twisted as well. Might as well do it now as these are going to have to go in like a week or two anyway to maintain appropriate airflow under the canopy into late flower. Good luck - it's truly addictive and yeah - planning that next grow is pretty the game👍
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Ferenc
Ferencweek 1
Good Luck! @TheBonnieRobin
c2_farms
c2_farmsweek 9
nice plant mate!. mine looks a lot like yours think she will grow the same way.. runoff ain’t that important when you use biobizz.. not like you adjust it in the first place.. but if you water in the right way, runoff indicates that all the medium is saturated.. but there is a difference when you have runoff because the soil is bone dry and water just passes trough the sides immediately but first.. i would defoliate the hell out of that plant!! remove all those leaves laying on the pot that are giving you problems while watering..remove all palm size leaves ..trust me it will be a lot of leaves but she will be thankful :)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobin
@c2_farms, thank you! I did some light trimming today and will see if I can summon the courage to go back for the big fan leaves in a couple of days, provided eveything else is on track. Thanks for the tips appreciate it. Xxx
c2_farms
c2_farms
@TheBonnieRobin,dont be scared, i was too when i first did it. its a normal thing to do..forget about them solar panels/food storage stuff.. in this stage its more beneficial to remove them so you can get better air flow and light penetration .. but do what makes you most comfortable ;)
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobin
@c2_farms, hey hey thanks so much for the encouragement and the advice. I'm scared of heavy defolitation this time out. Read lots of conflicting advice so I'm going to try and keep it low key with this grow and then push it a bit more on the next one. Gonna try and get two plants in the one tent so some tough love might be absolutely necessary. Great tips on the feeding and watering too. Thank you. Xx
GuerrillaNo_4
GuerrillaNo_4week 12
Those buds are really fat for first grow. You must have done months of research before you popped the seed!
GuerrillaNo_4
GuerrillaNo_4
@TheBonnieRobin, well the results speak for themselves Bonnie. Those colas look insane for a first indoor grow. They'll take a while to dry though 😂 The best thing about growing for me, is it teaches me to appreciate my mistakes as learning experiences. Now I look forward to them!
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobin
@GuerrillaNo_4, yeah, I've tried to read as much as possible. GD has been super helpful and have had some excellent advice from the community. Also, I did an outdoor grow last summer where pretty much anything that could be fked up....I fked up!! Really pleased with how this one has gone bit still A LOT to learn. Thanks for the shout out. Xx
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 11
hey mate, plant looks nice 💪
Smokwiri
Smokwiri
@TheBonnieRobin, almost ready, wait till more than 95% of the pistils are brown, or take a good magnifier to look at the trichomes, most harvest at amber, some at milky, i myself often at milky
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobin
@Smokwiri, nice one thanks. You reckon another couple of weeks before harvest?
NugLife420
NugLife420week 11
Nice 😎
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobin
@NugLife420, thanks friend.
The_Bearded_Grower
The_Bearded_Growerweek 9
looking good 💪
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobin
@The_Bearded_Grower, thanks friend x
Canamatoes
Canamatoesweek 7
Good luck mate👍🌱
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobin
@@Canamatoes, nice 1 thanks. Xx
heizen
heizenweek 6
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.
TheBonnieRobin
TheBonnieRobin
@heizen, nice one. thank you for the encouragement. x
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 13
Holy, that's some serious Green Crack Auto!
Harukisan
Harukisanweek 13
Congratulations on your first indoor grow 👏 hope we're gonna see many more in the future
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 12
nice progression 💪
BeachGrower
BeachGrowerweek 12
Looking real nice and fat!! Congrats!!
c2_farms
c2_farmsweek 10
humidity likes to drop after defo but she will be fine trust me.. ;) she will be fine regarding nutes also... i personally follow biobizz charts (except i extended the veg week when growing autoflowers, so you have 3 weeks of veg on the schedule-recommended by guys from biobizz) and never have i had problems! the safer side is giving nutes every other watering i would snip everything off for what you asked for, all them leaves.. every leaf that has a stem longer than 5-10 cm can go down... thats how hard you can go :D you’ll have an easier job later when trimming defoliation its debative but i found it useful in my garden :) when i was learning how to grow and old man told me “throw a toothpick,if the toothpick can’t fall/pass trough from the top to bottom of the plant she aint defoliated enough “ lol
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 10
nice progress, keep up the good work mate 👌💪
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustweek 10
Nice looking grow and great attitude 👍😃 Best of luck 🥦✌️
c2_farms
c2_farmsweek 9
and second i wouldn’t bother too much about those nute burn tips as that happens a lot with autoflowers.. just use nutes every other watering and y’all be perfect... no need for that flushing .. and use calmag once a week
Grow420pice
Grow420piceweek 8
Sieht sehr gut aus! Hast sie schön breit gemacht mit LST und ein gleichmäßiges Baldachin bekommen 👍 Ich denke, du wirst sehr viel Freude an ihr haben! Ja, das könnte ein leichter Anfang von Nut burn sein... Trotz Organischen Dünger, möglich. Ich würde ohnehin fishmix herausnehmen, jetzt in der Blüte. Sowie cal meg nur bei Bedarf, Anzeichen. Ansonsten, keine Panik, sie macht das hervorragend... Nur im Auge behalten. 👍😎🌱
DreamIT
DreamITweek 5
Enjoy growth 🤟🍀🤠
WisdomCulture420
WisdomCulture420week 3
All is well 👍🌱💚 I wish you good growth and good luck for this culture 🤙👊
Taito
Taitoweek 2
Buena suerte compañero😉