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MisterForestgreen MisterForestgreen
4 years ago
I'am a proud father. ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘ป Day 110, looking really good. I noticed this evening that some of the trichomes are turning red. Worked on day 106 the very first time with Flawless Finish. Flawless Finish has a red color. Now I wonder if this discoloration is from the Flawless Finish rinse, or if I was lucky enough to get a Zamnesia Banana with good genes, or if UVB stimulated the trichomes so well that they showed their full potential. Have the last 2 days again UVB switched on to increase yet again the resin production. This is what seemed to come out of it. Will test this again on the next plant, with a slightly stronger UVB lamp, which I then run from about the 2 flowering week to the 6 - 7 flowering week. Then one to 2 weeks no UVB radiation and then again the last days before harvest UVB rays add, together with the rinse. If the discoloration repeats, albeit in a possibly different color, we have gained very useful clues about it. Conclusions about the red trichomes: After thorough and long consideration, I came to the conclusion that flawless fisnish was not responsible for the red discoloration, as only the most advanced flowers turned red. The bottom line is that I started flushing a little too early. But will wait a little longer out of curiosity to see how this discoloration develops. If I'm not mistaken, my Zamnesia banana is the first to discolor like this. Experience: I am sure I have observed that adding UVB rays, even with a 13W lamp, definitely promotes trichome growth. 13W for pure radiant energy definitely seems to be enough for a plant. Think about it, a 13W laser pointer wouldn't be weak either. But beyond that, I feel that the growth rate decreases by about 30% when UVB rays are added. Or in other words, that the focus of the plant changes from plump mass growing, to trichome production. I wonder what happens when I test a double strength UVB lamp. We'll see. So for the last 2 weeks, I've been turning off the UVB lamp to get more volume, since I've reached the desired amount of trichomes anyway. However, the total volume is a bit disappointing, this is probably due to the relatively small growbox with 50 x 50 cm back wall and too poor illumination, but also a bit too slow plant metabolism, because the airpot with 38 liters also needs its time to dry. In addition, a 12 liter airpot would have the advantage of providing more oxygen to the roots, since the root ball can reach the end of the smaller pot more easily. In summary, a 38 liter airpot only makes sense if you are growing varieties that will get really big. 9 liters to 12 liters should be perfect for comparable varieties that stay relatively small. Day 111, seems like UVB rays are even more important than I think I know after studying some studies and experimenting with 3 plants in total. Now I am quite sure that UVB rays are indispensable for very strong resin formation. According to my experience so far, it seems that the percentage of UVB rays "offsets" the same percentage of full spectrum light rays, i.e., if we work with 65W luminous flux, as in our case, and we then supply 13W of radiant energy, this corresponds to a ratio of: 83.33% luminous flux 16,67% radiant energy That means: Theoretically the growth on volume decreases by about 16,67%, while the growth of resins and trichomes increases by 16,67%. (for easy calculation 65W & 13W, are actually less because of heat and light output). Think with lamps around 150W would fit about 30W UVB bulb. Will test the whole thing at the next grow with the same growth lamp, but a twice as strong UVB lamp from the same manufacturer. I suspect that the red discoloration represents a level of maturity and that far more plants have it than is currently known. The more uniform and strong the discoloration is, the riper the apple, that is, the bud. But in order for this natural function to start, it requires a more complete light spectrum, including UVA/UVB rays. These are thorough considerations, which I will check. The further plants will bring informative results. The areas that were proportionally exposed to UVB rays the longest show the most discoloration. This is already an indication. I would also like to try removing the light from the UVB lamp and letting the pure UVB rays work at night to see if further increased resin production can be achieved. I am currently still considering what will absorb light but still allow rays to pass through. Day 112, I'am happy. I am happy. I have achieved the amount of trichomes I wanted to achieve. Furthermore, it is just becoming apparent that the trichomes are unexpectedly turning red. If I am not very wrong, this is the first Zamnesia banana that does this. But I think I will end up well below the desired 100g. Nevertheless, the quality is visually even better than I have set myself as a high goal. I believe that virtually every color is available in luminous. Probably almost every plant has its own color, which often has not shown because the oils have not formed in sufficient quantities, in the trichome, so that no coloring, in whatever color, could take place, because of the lack of proper stimulation. In this case UVB as stimulator. According to a study that investigated the effect of UVB/UVA rays and clarified in clear figures that come from scientific research on this stimulation, it came out that depending on the variety, the content of the individual oils increased by more than 300% in some cases. This is apparently enough, also according to logic, for a strong coloring, since enough resin particles have collected to appear saturated as color. Day 115, not sure yet, but a higher temperature and a focused beam of UVB rays directly on the stem, seems to accelerate the coloration.
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MisterForestgreen
MisterForestgreenstarted grow question 4 years ago
Jeder Verbesserungsvorschlag, jede Anregung, sind Gern gelesen. Ich bin noch recht Neu dabei und daher mรถchte ich mich mit euch umfassend austauschen.
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
I see 10 ml per gallon. And a little bloom. You really shouldn't be adding any nutes to your baby until you see signs she needs it. If your feeding by the bottle once you do, dont feed by the label or you will kill your girl. If you havent got a ph ec reader, which anyone growing should have, then feed at a little less than half what the bottle says. Cheers
MisterForestgreen
MisterForestgreenstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hi gmslave, laut der Verpackung von dem Organischen Dรผnger sollte ich 50g - 100g auf 20 Liter Substrat mischen. Da ich 38 Liter im Topf habe, erscheinen mir 100g in Ordnung. Der Plagron Terra Bloom, soll mit 1 ml auf 1 Liter verdรผnnt werden, habe 0,5 ml genommen. Sollte passen?
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
There are enough nutes in your soil to keep you going for about a month or so. Cheers friend
MisterForestgreen
MisterForestgreenstarted grow question 4 years ago
Schaut mal bei dem Bild mit der Beschreibung Tag 13 rein. Man sieht ein Paar kleinere Probleme an den Blรคttern. Ist das eine รœberdรผngung?
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
more likely just ugle first leaves. i notice the watering around plant is very small. Water a larger diameter. I cannot see how large pot is. As of now, if a tiny plant and big pot, keep watering a diameter around the plant, but make sure it saturates all the way to bottom. don't water again until top is nearing dry. As soon as you can, you want to water entirity of pot. Dry pockets can lead to improperly balanced nutrient in soil.. which could cause major problems in plant. As long as it isn't a seedling ina 5 or 7 gallon... should be okay. By 2 weeks, a roughly 1-gal can be saturated without drowning it. Size of plant is better correlation than weeks of growth. Water much larger than canopy width. If new growth is healthy, i wouldn't worry about first set of serrated leaves or first set of 3-bladed leaves. The seed has powered it up until now.
MisterForestgreen
MisterForestgreenstarted grow question 4 years ago
Please look at day 17. Seems like something is wrong with my Banana ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ Look down left, the top leafe beginns to turns into a brown, too. Any idea what is wrong? I water just water and Ph down to 6.6. Nothing else at the moment.
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Looks like rootzone.. are you constantly watering it? allow top 1" to dry before watering again. alwys irrigate entirity of pot - no dry pockets. This requires a little bit of runoff to be certain. Otherwise, if you have a good wet-dry cycle, tone back the nutes.
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MisterForestgreen
MisterForestgreenstarted grow question 4 years ago
Topping? Should i top her today, or wait another week? What did u think?
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Nor_Cal_Kannabliss
Nor_Cal_Kannablissanswered grow question 4 years ago
As long there is new healthy growth for two nodes I'd say your in the clear to begin topping. ๐Ÿค˜๐Ÿ˜ค
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Frigault
Frigaultanswered grow question 4 years ago
Since you encounter a few probleme early on i would wait a few more growth.. the reason is. Has you top you deprive the apical growth. The new shoot will grown by the fanleaf below. Since a few needed to be remove you have less power. If any hapoens it can stun the growth really badly. Juste wait for a new internodes to pop. You could. But your plant needs to recuperate from its bad week
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MisterForestgreen
MisterForestgreenstarted grow question 4 years ago
Why does the flowering did not start yet? It was never before that slow. Normaly it took around 3 - 5 days, til she shows any sign ofg flower, but now 8 days are over and nothing in sight yet.
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Nettrick
Nettrickanswered grow question 4 years ago
Try to lover your PH..7.9 is way to high for soil. And about flowering i can say just to wait....if the room is full dark then plant just need time to transwer...nothing to worry about:)
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 4 years ago
In photoperiods 12 / 12 for light. I have had plants almost take 2 weeks to show signs. Make sure it has 12 hours complete darkness. Good luck and happy growing ๐ŸŒฒ๐ŸŒฒ๐ŸŒฒ๐Ÿ‘Š
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DankGardener
DankGardeneranswered grow question 4 years ago
You need to check light leaks and double check appliances make that no little light are on if so put tape over them. Plant needs 12 hrs of interrupted dark to flower. If good you just have a late flowerer on your hands.
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@Ferenc, Danke sehr, mal sehen wie stark Sie wird. ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Good luck with the grow mate! ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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@DreamOn, vielen Dank, ich gebe mein Bestes. โœŒ๏ธ
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1 thousand and all the reasons to grow Banana
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@DoDrugs420, thank you very much. If you like, join my Kalini Asia grow. Greetings MisterForestgreen
Organic_LarF
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Enjoy the bananas!!! ๐Ÿ™๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ™
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@Organic_LarF, Thank you very much, I will ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Ž
superleech
superleechweek 18
Those leaves are hairy af! Bubble hash the trim?
MisterForestgreen
MisterForestgreen
@superleech, yes, they are, indeed. ๐Ÿ˜ No, I keep them and enjoy them. They are strong as fuck.
Legiongrower
Legiongrowerweek 17
very nice
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@@Legiongrower, thank u very much ๐Ÿ˜Š
Igrowneil
Igrowneilweek 16
Looking really good , happy harvest dude
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@Igrowneil, thy u, I will enjoy it. Raised this lady like my own kid ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ˜‰
Organic_LarF
Organic_LarFweek 16
Looking great, Allmost at the end. ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿคž๐Ÿคž ๐Ÿ™๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ™
MisterForestgreen
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@Organic_LarF, Yes, almost ๐Ÿ˜Š I'am excited to test the difference. First time I use this kind of flush, instead of clean water.
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 12
hey mate, plant looks great ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’ช
MisterForestgreen
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@Smokwiri, thx mate ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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Smokwiriweek 11
hey mate, plant looks nice ๐Ÿ’ช
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@Smokwiri, Thx bro ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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CachimboDaPazweek 8
good luck with the grow brother
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@CachimboDaPaz, thx bro, i hopy she tastes good and will be strong
heizen
heizenweek 6
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.
MisterForestgreen
MisterForestgreen
@heizen, Thx mate, I got a hand ful of helper around, but I am proud, that this "slow" Banana now hit the gas rly hard. As soon as she reaches the top of the metal holder, I might change to veggie
Polaskis
Polaskisweek 2
Nice setup ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ’ฏ
MisterForestgreen
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@Polaskis, thx Bro ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Ž
Pot_Portraits
Pot_Portraitsweek 2
Auf jedefall aufpassen mit dem Duenger am Anfang, brauchen die nicht die sind mit Wasser und hoher Luftfeuchtigkeit zufrieden :) ๐Ÿ™Œ Thema Abluft, ich wuerde schonmal fuer die Bluete planen, weil mit dem momentanen Setup wirst massive Luftfeuchtigkeits Probleme haben wenn der Laden mal voll ist :D
Organic_LarF
Organic_LarFweek 4
Hello, Try to not water the plant for a few days(3-4), so the soil can breath again. Also within 3 to 4 days, try giving only 100ml instead of 250ml. Also try to find out what the PAR is underneath the light, so the light gets hung on a steady height, not to high but not to low either. With leds, i think your good at a fix distance of 40-50cm during veg. Depending on the brightness ofcourse. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐ŸŒฟ
Godsgrower316
Godsgrower316week 3
Ouch all the nutes finally burnt the tar out of her
Organic_LarF
Organic_LarFweek 6
High, About that 7.9ph , maybe do a recalibrate of your measuring device. It can get way out of the good zone after a few weeks. ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐ŸŒฟ Check out the diary "the choice is yours", and pick your favorite 4 out of 8 strains to get me started with next batch!! ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐ŸŒฟ