DunDermaanswered grow question 4 years ago Depending on the amount of LST/HST done on the plant, it's usually between 5-8 weeks of vegetation.
Though you are using random seeds, that might not be feminized, and depending on the look of your plant(s). I would suggest that they look healthy and ready week 6 to veg, if your not planning on doing any HST.
Usually during veg, the plant doesnt "grow" upwards that much, as it's called it "vegging", creating leaves and structure for flowering. So once you have the desired structure/size you can transition to 12/12.
Good luck! / Dunderma