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Deejay_scuff
Deejay_scuffstarted grow question 3 years ago
I notice that the grams/watt calculation might be misleading. For example my 2500w light puts out actual 530watts. Should this not be the way its actually calculated or am I the only one who thinks so?
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
You should only use the watts its pulling not the advertised watts on the package. Good lighting manufactures will post real watts pulled vs theoretical. The way it gets confusing is if you are using a dimmer, different lights, different lighting on/off periods, length of time lights are on. It only takes in the total wattage of the light and end yields. It's not the best. The hydro use of it all is really where it should be calculated. A 600w HPS on 24/7 for veg period for 10 weeks is going to cost way more then a 300w LED on a 18/6 for veg. The longer you veg out, the bigger the plant, the larger the yield. None of these number account for the extras needed like tent fans either. Thus anyone with enough time/space can get a perfect 1g/w ratio or higher. Also does not account for how efficient LEDS are vs old lighting techs like HPS and HID On my grows I do a hydro break down. growdiaries.com/diaries/49742-dinafem-og-kush-autoflowering-grow-journal-by-m0use The bottom of that harvest comment is the break down I use. I get real into it. long story short it cost me .20c a gram in electricity for all the usable cannabis that grow yielded. I include trim as I made edibles out of it. But most people only include buds. Trim + Buds 0.9 g/w Buds .69g/w in the traditional ratios. But grams per KW of electricity used is much better ratio I think. Hope this helps.
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JaramnieJazz
JaramnieJazzanswered grow question 3 years ago
Schauen sie immer auf die tatsächlich gezogene watt zahl alles andere ist nur werbung bei ihnen also 530watt also gramm/watt wäre 530g oder mehr da die neuen leds mehr schaffen
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
The over hyped lights come from the fact the diode can handle more power then they give it, and that's not a bad thing. EG. a lamp contains 100 diodes at 3w each and they only give .5w per diode the theoretical/advertised is 300w, but the reality is its only pulling 50w max if that. And to be fair most companies do not use the diodes at their max rate as they would burn out to fast and generate more heat. Its more efficient to use them at a lower capacity. The good brands will tell you the real pull not the maximum theoretical and provide lab results of their products. You can also do some quick math on how much it could pull by multiplying the volts and amperage together of its power adapter as that's how many watts its using and can handle as a draw.
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CrowMaster
CrowMasteranswered grow question 3 years ago
Nvr used anything other then hps to flower with….led lights are 3-4xmore then a good 1000w de hps light..I always hit 1.5-2g a watt depending on strain and time of year..I don’t see how a led light pushing less watts can get over that…seen some of them say 3-4 pounds a light. I think this is BS…i had a grower friend or two changed the whole set up to leds and after a crop went back to hps…been skeptical about spending so much to do a side by side and see with my own eyes…
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Terry94
Terry94answered grow question 3 years ago
Also no one’s mentioning the larger the plant (longer veg) = more nutes(price) lesser space & longer bloom not to mention the maintenance of said large plant for optimum results
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Northernwizard
Northernwizardanswered grow question 3 years ago
Same! Very misleading. I’ve mentioned it after every grow where you can review the lights and Kind LED don’t seem interested in addressing the issue. They’d rather get you through the door with inflated power out put claims than let you get true GPW from at the wall wattage.
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
I think there is an option to not include the wattage of the light in the grow. just make it custom. i have seen some profiles with no grams per watt ratios but they do have a g per plant ratio. Don't know how they did that.
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GrowCN
GrowCNanswered grow question 3 years ago
I agree. False or "stretched" advertising is not cool. Low cost lighting is one of the worst offenders. A 2'500 watt grow light is an obvious marketing lie. Most home electrical circuits can't even provide that much wattage. But manufacturers still lie and many people believe the lie and buy their lights so they keep doing it. Hey, if you can buy a 2'500 watt light for 0 why would you buy a 0 light that is only 300 watts? Breeders stretch the truth on grow/flower time. And every few days a new grower is on here asking why their first grow is taking weeks longer than the seed specs say. A professional doing hydro and hitting conditions exactly might get the rapid growth cycle advertised but most can't. The inflated grams per watt numbers is another stretching of the truth. They just don't tell you that they are professionals, growing in hydro and veg for a really long time to get a huge plant. They can technically get 2.5 grams/watt. It might not be the most efficient regarding time, space, or electricity consumed and almost nobody grows like that. But it can be done.
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Deejay_scuff
Deejay_scuffanswered grow question 3 years ago
I hear what you a are saying and I agree 100%. I just think with the database on this specific community that the grams/ watt should be relative to the actual wattage of all the grow lights that people use, especially the company's that I assume are sponsoring members etc. Maybe I'm nitpicking a bit but I feel it should give a more realistic final analysis upon harvest. Maybe because I don't fully understand all the different lighting systems but from my own experience ( led only) led lighting systems should reflect actual wattage to help people nail down a setup and expected yields from the manufacturers
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 3 years ago
The whole grams per watt thing is not something I subscribe to.. it’s unrealistic for most home growers. It’s watts from the wall btw. You’ll be lucky to pull 1 gram per watt but a lot of light companies advertise 2.5g per watt range which would mean pulling 3 lbs from your setup. Just forget about those expectations and do your best
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