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The40thieves
The40thievesstarted grow question 5 years ago
Actually a feed related question. A few weeks back I accidentally boosted my ppms to 2300+. I thought I would burn them, but instead the plants seem to love it, eating on average 1000ppms per week. How high can i push the ppm? Is there such a thing as too much Calmag?
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DankGardener
DankGardeneranswered grow question 5 years ago
No I personally would not run that high. When doing so ur going to eventually burn them. Maybe not now but it will show up. U don't need to give more nutrients for bigger bud. U need to give more watts. Bigger grow light/more grow lights
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mr_green_thumb_ottawa
mr_green_thumb_ottawaanswered grow question 5 years ago
yes it is such thing as to much if it take 1000 a week thats all she need try adding co2 next she might drink a bit more
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Wandering_Sage666
Wandering_Sage666answered grow question 5 years ago
I've pushed 3500 ppm to autoflowers, twice a week and they loved it, I've never had a nutrient burn issues. I would say each strain or hell even each plant will eat different, just slowly add more until you feel like you're feeding them what you want. I've spoken with breeders who have told me they regularly run 7000 ppm during flowering. Experiment and find what works for you. As far as ppm and pH meters I would recommend an Apera PC60. Happy Growing!!
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
You can have cal mag excess , in fact you can have any nutrients excess so too much cal mag would lead to an excess and a slow growth. Concerning the ppm ( and depending on the brand) you can go between 1000 and 1400 without harming your plants , it is the equivalent of a 2.0 EC and I never saw anyone going upper than 2.2 (1100 to 1550 ppm depending on the ppm pen brand ). So keep your ppm at that level and don't give too much cal mag
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Philindicus
Philindicusanswered grow question 5 years ago
Usually 1600ppm max on the nutes not all plants can take it others may take a bit more. If you make a mistake best thing is to give her a flush until your runoff comes out in the appropriate ppm range or lower. The last part of can you add too much cal/mag is yes. Most cal/mag has nitrogen in it so this needs to be taken into account in oder to avoid nute burn. Also using too much calcium can lock out other nutrients that the plant needs. Adding smaller amounts of cal/mag earlier in your grow just before you enter bloom but before the issue shows on the leaves is the best way to avoid cal/mag issues. Hope this helps happy harvesting.
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 5 years ago
PPM meters break easily, try measuring with a new and calibrated one, i just buy a bunch of the cheapest ones i can find because i run through them quite quickly hope this helps ! 🚀
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Viridios
Viridiosanswered grow question 5 years ago
Knowing What Your Plants Are Eating and How Much They Can Handle October 20, 2016 by Devin Martinez One big question growers ask is “Why are my plants suffering even though I used all the right nutrients, feeding cycles, lighting cycles, and adjusted temperatures and conditions to their absolute best?” That’s because their pH and PPM levels are off, making it difficult for your plants to eat. pH refers to potential of Hydrogen ions in your water, which will determine if your water is too acidic or has too much alkaline in it. PPM (parts per million) refers to the concentration of minerals and soluble matter in your watering solution. Correct pH and PPM levels are the backbone of any grow, and will be the difference between a healthy grow and a huge waste of time and money. pH Levels Simply put: the right pH level will create an environment where your plants can absorb nutrients quickly and easily, leading to a better harvest. Nutrient-rich water is filled with elements that are helpful to your plants. However, if those elements can be broken down properly those same elements can harm your plants. pH levels is important to understand because the right level will determine the quality of helpful bacteria in your water that help break down elements, helping the metabolic rate of your plants. How? In two ways:? When pH levels are too low (pH level of around 5 of lower), heavy metals like iron and aluminum change and can become toxic to your plants ? If the pH level is too high (pH level of around 6.5 or higher) elements like calcium and phosphorus can’t be broken down completely, which will hinder the growth of your plants This change in properties is due to how acidic your water is or is not. You’ll want your plants’ nutrients to be a little acidic otherwise they can’t break down, but too much acidity and your nutrients can become toxic. So remember: pH too low= toxic to your plants, too high= growth decrease. That’s why you want to have the perfect level of acidity in your water, which will be around 5.5-6.0 Typical pH Levels ? 3.5 and below: Root Damage ? 4.0-4.5: Poor Nutrient Uptake ? 5.0-5.4: Good pH Level ? 5.4-5.8: Perfect pH Level ? 6.0-7.0: Acceptable pH Balance ? 7.5-8.0: Poor Nutrient Uptake ? 8.5 and Above: Root Damage Note: Soil grown plants tend to need a little bit higher of a pH than hydroponics because soil retains and releases certain elements to your plants at different times. However, both hydroponic and soil pH levels should stay within the same optimal range of 5.5-6.0 pH. PPM Levels PPM (Parts Per Million) refers to concentration of the particulates in your feeding solution. From minerals found in tap water to natural elements found in your nutrients, your job is to make sure that the PPM levels in your water solution are on point so you’re not under- or over-feeding your plants. While it’s an easy concept to understand on the surface, it’s a little more complicated when you have to adjust elements. Now, pH plays a huge factor in PPM levels because even though you may have the correct PPM reading, some of the particles- and the concentration of those particles- can be harmful for your plants. For example, let’s say your plants need to be at a PPM level of 700. You mix your solution and you get a PPM reading of 700 but your pH is around 4.5. That means that the majority of the available food for your plants is likely to have lots of heavy metals in it, which will quickly toxify the plant. You’ll need to adjust the pH level of your solution to make sure you’re not toxifying your plants. “But won’t that throw my PPM levels off because you’re adding particles to your feeding solution?” It can, and that’s what’s so tricky about PPM and pH levels: When you adjust one you usually have to adjust the other, which can be simple or a huge pain depending on the water and nutrients you’re feeding your plants. Common PPM Readings These readings reflect the PPM your water should have at a given stage of growth ? Seedlings: 100-250 (nutrients aren’t really needed here, hence there’s not a lot of particles needed) ? First Half of Vegging Cycle: 300-400 (this is usually after you transplant, which still don’t require many nutrients) ? Second Half of Vegging: 450-700 (you’ll start giving your plants more nutrients at this stage) ? First Half of Flowering: 750-950 (your plants will be eating more as they grow, so they’ll be taking in more nutrients) ? Second Half of Flowering: 1000-1600 (this is when your plant’s eating the most, especially if you give it additives) ? End of Flower, Entering Harvest: As close to 0 as possible (this is when you’ll be flushing your plants, so you don’t want there to be a lot of particles left over) Adjusting pH Levels When it comes to feeding plants there’s two ways of looking at it: homemade or store bought. Same goes with balancing your pH: you can either purchase a pH buffer from a store or you can use ingredients you can find around your home or in the grocery store– but both come with their advantages and disadvantages. Homemade pH Buffers ? Advantage: If pH levels are low you can use a little citric acid or even white vinegar to help bring your water’s pH down. When you need to raise your pH levels you can use a little bit of baking soda in your solution and bring those readings back up. This will cost you less than picking up a buffering solution. ? Disadvantage: The issue with using these solutions is that they don’t work for very long. You’ll find yourself having to add a little lemon juice every other day, then having to use a little baking soda to even things out. Moreover, we’ve also heard of growers using these ingredients and seeing severe spikes in pH, which if not handled properly and quickly and bring your grow to a halt. Premade pH Buffers ? Advantage: Most hydroponic companies out there will have pH buffers, usually called . They’re much easier to use than citric acid or white vinegar mixes. They’re designed raise and lower the pH of your water while keeping your water’s pH levels balanced for longer than it would be without them. ? Disadvantage: As we’ve always mentioned, easier usually means more expensive. These solutions usually won’t cost you an arm and a leg, but they’re definitely something you can’t simply make at home and will cost some money. Adjusting PPM Levels Before you start adjusting your PPM levels, you’ll first want to make sure your tap water is ready to feed your plants. That means you’ll want to adjust the PPM of your base water before you start feeding it to your plants Now, any time you add anything in to your watering solution, you’ll be adding more particles in to it, so keep an eye out on your PPM levels at all times. ? To rid your water of too many particles you can use things like a carbon filter or a reverse osmosis machine to clean your water. However, many growers agree that most tap water has helpful minerals (like calcium and magnesium) that actually help plants. ? During and after the vegging stage, your plants will want more out of their feedings so filtering isn’t really necessary. That’s why we recommend only using filters at the beginning of the plants life when low PPM readings are needed ? For a quick fix when PPM’s are high just add a bit of fresh water with a good pH level and watch them drop. Filtered, pH’ed water is great when things get a little too much in your reservoirs. ? When readings are low it’s usually time to feed your plants. When you add nutrients to your feeding solution your PPM’s will go back up, and when your PPM’s and pH’s are in balance your plants are going to be happy and healthy. ? Just remember that these readings need constant adjustment, so if you haven’t been keeping a close eye on your plant’s PPM and pH levels there’s not better time to start than now. 3
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Majormolasses
Majormolassesanswered grow question 5 years ago
Well of course less is always better you just might have to really flush your plants 🌱 if your just pumping them full of stuff you know?
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Growdaddy420
Growdaddy420answered grow question 5 years ago
I agree with the above posts. 2300 ppms is excessive. I would recommend 1600 ppms as a max. Always progressively increase ppms and remember thst less is always more. In terms of cal mag follow manufacturers recommendations for max. On my last dwc grow I didn't and it caused me issues. Took a few weeks to figure out. That said the final product was amazing and it looks like yours will be too. Good luck and keep up the good work!
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Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hey there. Looking at your photos I see that some of your fan leaves are clawing down at the end. And I cant see for sure but I assume you have some brown tips? This is a sign of nutrient toxicity. The flora series you are using is a great product and you never need to go over the feeding schedule they have set. If you excede their scheduled ppm you risk damaging them and it can have a huge impact on your yield. And as far as the calmag, yes you can over do it and cause cal and mag excess which will also impact overall health of the plants. When it comes to nutrients try to stay at or even a little below the nutrient schedule. I would go to about 3/4 dose for a while so they can use up some of the excess they have now. And keep in mind when you have nutrient toxicity it often shows signs of a cal or mag deficiency. So as long as you are at full cslmag dose then no need to add extra now. They are only going to develop so fast at their own rate so by the time you push it over the edge it will be hard to get them back to good health. I suggest lookong up the "lucas formula" for the flora series. It is a tried and true schedule that is easy to follow. Hope this info gets you headed in the right directions.
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The_Projexx
The_Projexxanswered grow question 5 years ago
If you kept feeding your plant at 2300 ppm you will eventually burn your plants . For early flower your looking at 1100 ppm late flower you can go as high as 1300 ppm . As for the cal mag yes theres such a thing as too much cal mag if you use too much of it too often you cause salt to build up on your root system preventing it from absorbing certain nutrients . There are various charts on the webs that will show you the ppm per stage . I usually end up hitting close to 1200 when I'm in late flower . I hope this information helps shed some light on your journey to becoming a Grow Master . Happy Growing !
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