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BuddyandLindsey2018
BuddyandLindsey2018started grow question 4d ago
My top leaves are pointing straight up and touching.. it's day 16 of flower and there should be bud forming where the leaves are.. I've never seen nothing like it and I'm starting to think nobody else has either
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Hightai90
Hightai90answered grow question 3d ago
She Is doing fine some plants flowers early and some later its showing its female sex but you Need to wait For the light to go under 14 houts at least tò start seeing buds form
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 3d ago
Very nice answer herby, covering all the bases. Also a slight possibility it could be too much sucrose in the medium if you have been over eager to "load" up on the good stuff in preparation for flower. Sucrose acts as a signaling molecule, and its concentration influences various genes and pathways involved in the transition to flowering. But that's very easy to know if you did or not. I'd strongly recommend adding a 15-30m far red at end of the plant's days to ensure you get a good pr/pfr conversion, I don't see the usual suspects with nitrogen at play. Thank you for question and answers.
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S_herby
S_herbyanswered grow question 3d ago
Hey growmie! S_herbly passing by 🌿 I took a long, close look at each of the three shots you posted. Here’s a breakdown of what I’m seeing and, more importantly, why it might be happening from a plant-physiology standpoint: What I see What it normally means Why it blocks bud formation Apical rosette of very tight, spear-like leaf primordia (no pistils, no swollen calyces) The shoot apical meristem is still in a vegetative program; it keeps producing leaves instead of switching to floral bracts The meristem never receives—or keeps losing—the hormonal & photoreceptor signals (low Pfr, low gibberellin, high florigen) that trigger flowering “Praying” leaves (blades angled up ≥45 °) Typical of excess PPFD or high leaf-surface temp; stomata open wide to boost transpiration and cool the lamina Extra photons + heat push the plant to allocate resources to leaf maintenance instead of floral initiation Internodes still elongating Ongoing auxin + gibberellin dominance (classic stretch phase) Cytokinin:auxin ratio never flips, so the meristem keeps stacking nodes rather than forming pre-flowers --- 🔬 Most-likely root cause (ranked) 1. Photoperiod leakage or instability (95 % of cases like this) Even a single LED indicator or a 1-sec light flash during the dark cycle resets phytochrome to Pfr, telling the plant “keep vegging!” 16 days after flip you should already be in early Week 3 bloom; no pistils = the switch never really happened in the plant’s “mind.” 2. PPFD / heat stress locking the apical meristem Leaf-surface temps above ~28 °C trigger heat-shock proteins → auxin spikes → leaf primordia keep stacking. A canopy PPFD 750 µmol m⁻² s⁻¹ under LEDs without adequate far-red can delay floral transition. 3. Nitrogen still too high, P & K too low High nitrate suppresses the florigen (FT) gene complex. A bloom ratio closer to N 1 : P 4 : K 5 is ideal from the flip onward. 4. Rare genetic quirk (unstable hybrid or partial re-veg) Less than 1 % probability, but autos or polyhybrids can throw a vegetative “flashback” after stress. --- 🛠️ Action plan to get buds forming Step Target value How / why Seal the night 12 h darkness at ≤0.1 µmol m⁻² s⁻¹ Sit in the tent at lights-off: if you can read your phone, it’s too bright. Tape LEDs, close zips, block cracks. Dial PPFD 600 µmol m⁻² s⁻¹ canopy, 40 cm from LED Use a PAR meter or phone-app lux + conversion (works ±10 %). Lower driver current if needed. Leaf-temp 24–26 °C lights-on Small clip-fan across the canopy; raise exhaust CFM if tented. Feed switch EC 1.6 – 1.8, NPK ≈ 3-10-12 Flush 15 % runoff if N is built-up, then start bloom mix. Monitor nodes Look for pairs of white pistils inside 3–5 days Use a 30× loupe; pistils should protrude before the next set of fans finish unfurling. If after 7 days you still see only leaf spears and zero pistils, cut a lower lateral tip, label it, and flower it in a micro-12/12 setup. If that cutting does bloom, you’ve confirmed a light-leak issue in the main tent. --- 📝 Quick checklist 12 / 12 absolutely dark? Canopy PPFD measured, not eyeballed? Leaf-surface temp 27 °C? Bloom nutes in, nitrogen trimmed? Tick those boxes and you should catch the floral trigger you’re looking for. Keep me posted—once those pistils pop, you’ll see the familiar tuft of white hairs within 48 h. Happy growing and may the photons be ever in your favor! 🌞🌱 — S_herbly 🔬✨
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4d ago
Quite "normal".........you obviously haven't grown many plants.
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Core_T_Son
Core_T_Sonanswered grow question 4d ago
Keine Sorge. In ein paar Tagen sind da Blüten dran. 😉 ich finde, die sehen sehr gut aus. Lass dich nicht stressen, die brauchen nur ein bi
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00110001001001111O
00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 4d ago
That's a newly formed growth node.. it's normal. Seems to happen even more in flower... bunch of new growth plant mass in its own way. You'd see other issues with growth pattern if the light was too close... super tight nodes (looks fine in pic #3), singed pistil at top etc. Young leaves take a couple days before they aren't "sinks"... not missing out on anything. Would definitely expect more bud development at 16-F. As long as you are certain of providing 12 hours of uninterrupted darkness, all is fine. Could just be a slow one. Being slow early doesn't always mean slow overall, but probably correlates, lol.
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kingcrab
kingcrabanswered grow question 4d ago
Hey growmie, what you’re seeing is actually pretty normal sometimes. The top leaves praying upwards like that can be a sign your plant is loving life and soaking up light, especially in early flower when energy demand ramps up. It’s kind of like a “solar panel mode.” That said, a couple things worth checking: ✅ Make sure your light isn’t too close or too intense—leaf tips reaching can also be early light stress. Try to check your DLI or back off the intensity a touch if you’re running full blast. ✅ Check temps & VPD—high heat or dry air can cause this too. ✅ Don’t stress about bud formation yet—it’s day 16 of flower, and some strains are just slower to show pistils and bulk up. Give it another week and you’ll likely see the flowers pop properly. I’ve seen this plenty—honestly nothing too wild or alarming. The plant looks green and healthy from what I can see 👍
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 4d ago
I don't see anything wrong here but strong normal growth. The day 16part is a bit late but I am seeing pistils and sex showing so that's not a big worry. May want to confirm your lighting schedule is indeed on 12/12 and its not turning back on at a different time. I has that happen once on my electronic timer as it has 20 inputs. and input 18 had 00:00 on, with no off. but input 1 was 08:00 on and 19:00 off. so it would really turn back on at 00.00 giving an extra 8hrs of light. but they were autos and got fixed a week later. Other wize healthy looking plants.
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