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The start of Veg week 1! Well basically... Oreo bag seed is behind for obvious reasons if you're following along. Was germed a couple of days behind the others. Northern Lights looks like is struggling to exist but it's still moving along. Gigabud is ahead as per expectation. Purple Diesel and Blue Cheese are looking just as expected at this point too.
The Mars Hydro TS3000 came in today. Perfect timing. Have it hung 18 inches above the little babies running at about 40%. I added oscillating 12in fan to the mix today. Old school indoor growers always told me the constant wind gives them strength from the light wind agitation and fresh air. 🤷♂️ I've just always done it since.
First dose of Big Bloom from Fox Farm went in the soil today. Mixed at about 6tsp/gal as per Fox Farms "seedling/week 1 veg" feed column. Little earlier than I'd usually nute things typically but trial and error I guess!
Mars Hydro 4x4x6.5ft tent should be here next week by the time these little guys start to have a little more size to 'em!
These little babies don't look how plush and green I'm used to at the early stage. I suspect light damage? Heat is not an issue but I guess LEDs can be too powerful for such young plants? I've always used MH or T5 HO bulbs and never had this issue. I figured the more light the better.
I've moved the light from 18 inches at 55% to 30 inches at 75% in hopes the fresh growth looks better. They had their last week 1 feeding yesterday (10/2) so will get just water in the next day or so when things dry up.
Cups weren't draining excess water too well I noticed as well, so got then up on a screen to avoid puddling or blocking of the drainage holes I drilled into them.
Bummed a little at this point but it's early enough to hopefully identify if light stress is an accurate diagnosis and the plants can start to flourish at a young age.
Ideas on why these leaves are curling downward and seem almost "shriveled"?Soil has been wet/moist consistently and heat hasn't really gone above 78F. They are in ocean forest soil getting a suggested nute dosage can't imagine its deficient at this stage. Light or wind stress?
Hi there Domaintraveler, i gotta disagree with my growmie odrex on this one, the seedlings cant be rootbound at this stage : they're just too small. What happened is that there was overwatering that caused root issues. So it's really easy to overwater seedlings like that because the plant doesnt really need more than a few mL like 25-50mL max at this stage. if you give it more it's usually fine but it can lead to problems like what you have now. So basically the moisture is a breeding ground for "water mold" and this you need to fix by a longer dry period. usually the mold will disappear by itself and the plant will recover, but if it doesnt what you need to do is fix the root zone. This you can do by using additives like beneficial bacteria which take a while to fix things or humic and fluvic acid which will break down the problem roots and regulate the medium quite well. Hope this helps ! 🚀
Start of week 3 Veg! 11/10/21
Some LST started a couple of days ago which is keeping the canopy as low as possible so that individuals nodes start to "shoot" up! Tomato cages are on hand for when the time comes :).
First dose of week 3 Veg nutes went in today as well. Fingers crossed that Oreo bagseed ends up female and that Northern Lights takes well to the transplant!
Also, while bending the Purple Diesel over a bit to start its LST this morning I caught a strong whiff of Dank already coming from the main stem and leaves! She might be a stinky one but carbon filter is already on deck for when the time comes!
Hello this yellowing is caused by your leaves touching the soil so just remove soil under these leaves or cut them to not have this problem again. So don't worry too much it will be fine. Good luck. Bye
Starting 12 12 sooner than planned because next set of strains are already popped and getting into Veg stage. Will give me longer to Veg the second set of strains (seen in my other journal with Runtzosa) if they Veg while these flower and dry for approx 2-3 months.
Not sure what people normally consider their first week of flower but I just figure I'll start it at first day before 12/12 🤷♂️
Fc4800 tent is rocking and rolling and ready to make some flowers!
Start of week 2 flower. Seeing some little hairs on all the fems besides the northern lights so far. Keeping a close eye on the bag seed. Started the week with standard fox farms nute schedule. Can't remember it off hand so will edit and update the nute section asap
Continued LST and some minimal defoliation to let some light into the tighter formed bushes. Usually not a fan of cutting leaves off, but a few lower bud sites could use more light and I really don't want mold to have a chance to form in dark spots!
Smell is increasing in the area around the tent but still no serious need to pop the carbon filter in yet. Got the pots up onto their own risers instead of the screen I had them on. Might use that screen as a scrog-like screen in the future we shall see.
Oreo bagseed still not showing nor is the Northern Lights. Other 3 are clearly females!
Really just taking minimal leaves off to allow better light penetration on these bushes. If a leaf can be tucked instead I just tuck it to minimally stress them out. Continuing a standard fox farm trio nute schedule. Continuing LST.
Bud site formations are coming together nicely on the PD, GB, and BC, while as expected the NL and Bagseed are a little bit behind.
Looks like bud sites are starting to thicken up which is great considering there's still 3+ weeks to go. Northern Lights basically looks like it's dying. I'm not sure if root rot started at a young age when I accidentally overwatered and followed it to the bigger pot or what. It's been treated the same as the others all along. I attempted a quick clone from a stalk and tossed it in my veg tent to see what happens. Not thinking the one in flower now is going to make it. Oreo I really haven't don't much training on. Just snipped a few big leaves because it's so compact. The other 3 are looking plush. 👌
Smell has consumed basically the entire room outside of the tent when the lights are on and things warm up. Smells fantastic. Might have to get the carbon filter in before I have company for the holidays if it creeps to other rooms soon!
42 days since 12/12. Thinking purple diesel will be the first to be ready. Whole house stinks when tent hits the low to mid 80s. I have a carbon filter but am being lazy and nobody is complaining. Ha.
Thinks are chunking up a bit. I took a number of leaves out to avoid dark spots and mold. My humidity is pretty low anyways but rather be safe than sorry. Fc4800 is cranking at 100% about 15 inches or so above the canopy. Had to get some clip fans going to get the light that low without heat getting to 90 degrees f
Starting to flush these girls this week. Hoping to harvest purple D in about 10-11 days. The Gigabud looks like it will be not far behind. The "oreo" bag seed doesn't smell anything like the bud I pulled it from funny enough. I doubt I could get a clear answer about the actual genetics that formed this seed so I'm left to wonder. I was told the Bud was Oreoz which I know has cookie lineage. This plant smells like pepper/garlic/sweaty tee shirt left in a locker for too long. The bud it came from was more coffee/caramel/molasses type flavor. Cool either way I guess since I had no expectations!
Lastly blue cheese looks about a week and a half or so behind the rest. So I'd say it still has 2.5 weeks give or take.
The first words that come to mind when I take a big whiff of the terps "Grape fuel". 🍇
First time trying a dry trim (besides the big fan leaves). Hanging at 60-70%RH during the day with drops to 30-40% RH throughout the night when the tents power kicks off.
Plant was about 7.1oz on the scale wet with sugar leaves. 16 hours later it's weighing closer to 5.5oz. Guessing it will lose another 2oz or so in the next 24-36 hours, then another oz a couple more days of hanging and after final trim. Hoping I have at least 2 dry oz by this time next week. Will be trying these "Grove Bags" for curing. Supposedly the handle RH of the bud among other benefits. Looking forward to blazing the first harvest I've had in 8 years!
Final dry weight 29 grams. Can't say I'm thrilled since I know that means my Gigabud and bag seed will probably be less. The blue cheese is still stacking and will probably come down soon. That being said I think I got the dry and cure timing down pretty good and the quality is amazing so cheers to that!
Purple D got the chop last night. Giga is getting the chop tonight/tomorrow.
Blue cheese and oreo bag seed are seemingly approaching their final 3-5 days as well!
Boo berry Cereal terps mixed around with a musky cheese funk would best describe the smell. The taste isn't fantastic but maybe it was something I did. Overall enjoyable daily driver though. Doesn't give a burn out sleepy feel but provides good medicinal value for daytime use.
Start of week 4 Veg.
Continued LST under the lowest tomato cage loop.
Smells are getting interesting when they are agitated:
Gigabud- citrusy like lemon and oranges
Purple diesel - Dank
Blue cheese - Skunk from those cheesy genes!
Northern lights is a day by day experiment at this point. Maybe clone if it gets healthy enough to take one. Or maybe just take it into flower and hash out whatever it decided to produce or not produce lol.
GUYS! I ordered a Mars Hydro FC4800 and a 2nd 4x4x6.5ft tent today. I'll probably use it as my Flowering tent. I'm stoked.
Plants got 2nd and final week 3 Veg nute dose today. I was about 15 feet from my tent today and caught some whiffs of warm little weed plants. Think I'll be popping my carbon filter on in the next week or so.
Half way through 2nd week of Veg. Transplants seem to have gone well from solo to 5 gal for the PD, BC, and GB plants. Oreo bagseed will probably get transplanted to 5 gal with the next normal watering tomorrow. Northern Light looks like if it survives it will be a weirdo so I'll just let it ride and see what happens. Growth all seems real tight and minimal stretch. Going to kick the ts3000 down to 75% to see if they stretch a little more so I can start lst by end of week 3 hopefully 🙏
My LST on the 3 plants with tomato cages is really continuing to have great results. I'm starting to train them "around" the bottom loop of the cages now that they have the size to do so. I've never tried this before but read about it and wanted to give it a go. Plants look nice and green so although I was planning to feed yesterday I just gave them their biggest plain watering they have had yet.
Will feed tomorrow their first week 4 nutes.
The northern lights is the healthiest it's looked so far which isn't saying much but there might just be a hope for something to come from it. 🤷♂️
Second tent and exhaust kit came in today. Of course the FC4800 is like 4 days behind 🙄. I'm guessing by the time it comes in I'll be almost ready to throw these into flower. Original plan was to spend 6-8 weeks in Veg but realistically that's how long my next set of strains will run since they are in germination now and will stay in the Veg tent until the current Veg is done or almost done Flowering. Or at least that's the plan for now!
To help with the soil wetness I also powered off the exhaust fan and now my temp is just above 80 which seems more ideal at this stage. I tossed my t5 light into the mix today as well. Figure it can't hurt but I guess I'll find out if I'm wrong lol
The solo cups were working against me in terms of airflow for the roots even with the holes I drilled in. The suggestion that the roots were too wet for too long seems likely the case after analyzing the soil and seeing it was still pretty wet even after 2 days of not watering.
Additional research seems to suggest the cloth buckets for drainage and airflow to roots among other benefits listed on the label. I snagged up 5 of those and some more ocean forest today. The blue cheese, purple diesel, and gigabud all had leaves past the side of the solo cup and roots creeping out the drainage holes. I felt that combined with the wet soil issue was a good enough reason to transplant at least those 3 today. A little sooner than planned but given the situation it seemed like the best bet to move forward. They went into 5 gal which is usually bigger than I'd go this early but I've seen some diaries where it didn't hurt, assuming you are mindful where to water! :) pics soon and if these 3 take to the transplant fairly well I will likely use the same metric for determining when to transplant the bizzare NL baby and the oreo bagseed which are both a bit smaller still.
Everything besides the bagseed is showing green. All 4 t5 bulbs in now and lights lowered nice and close! Bagseed will probably break Soil and show green within 12 hours if not sooner. Will give everything a couple of days to develop under the t5s a bit before going under the ts3000. Fox farm nute guide says to give seedlings and 1 week Veg a very low 6tsp/gal H20 of Big Bloom. But I've found Ocean Forest soil to be so rich that usually the first few leaves can be developed before really needing extra nutes. The feeding guide does acknowledge the seedlings should be in ocean forest which I never realized I guess. So maybe I'll give them a dose at week 1 of Veg which I've normally skipped. I've always feared salt build-up after a rookie mistake years ago but I also never actually looked the Fox Farms feed guide 😅. Cheers
Northern lights cracked and is in soil. 100% germ rate on intended seeds. Woo-hoo. Not sure if that bagseed is going to do much but it's about twice the size of the seeds that were germed thus far. Will give it a couple more days.
I suspect Gigabud may poke its head above soil within the next 12 hours based on observations made thus far. No indication yet on the other 3 breaking soil that soon.
Gigabud has broken soil. Man I know it's early but I think I'll be fighting to keep this one as low as the others for a somewhat even canopy down the road. Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Blue cheese will have its head above soil today it looks like too.
Lastly, the Oreo bagseed has germed! Will update pics shortly.
Purple Diesel and Blue Cheese cracked by the 48 hour mark. Dropped into soil.
Just waiting on Norther Lights to crack. Looks bright green and healthy still.
Still no clear cracks in Northern Lights. Maybe needs more time. Maybe a dud despite looking healthy. Time shall tell.
However I pulled a seed out of some flower from a friend he said was "Oreo". Figure I'll try to pop it and see what happens!
No surprise, Gigabud with those Big Bud genes is in the lead. Nice little white tail a good quarter inch out of the shell. Dropped it into a red Solo cup with some water and fox farm ocean forest at 4:20pm 😅 was a funny coincidence when I realized it.
I'd guess by tomorrow morning at least blue cheese will be doing the same.
The northern lights and purple diesel seem the slowest so far but of course we are just a day in :).
More updates when it's worth it.
@CRiSPrGrow, hahaha that is insane! Good to know too I've! I've heard good things about the TS3000 so hopefully I'm at least as happy with the Yield as I was under a good old 400w MH/HPS. If not I'll just go back next time around and use the ts3000 for supplemental lighting.
@domaintraveler, lmfao for real though ! by the way the LEDs i use will put out just about as much heat and use up as much electricity if not more than an HPS but the light will pierce through a human to the mf bone lol. I've seen and set up many commercial set ups, and i'll tell you what : the biggest and most profitable set ups still use the good ol' MH+HPS set up... 😅
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