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9lb kush
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masterofsmeagol masterofsmeagol
2 years ago
8/19 Rained again last night. No damage but medium is drenched. The 9lb kush I've been struggling with seems to be improving. I spent a lot of time on her yesterday and at least an hour this morning defoliating and pruning her. New growth and flowers look promising. I'm cautiously optimistic. I defoliated what needed it. I needcto qpplyvorganocide again. I can see random signs of septoria leaf spot. I really have been off my fame lately. I'm back on it now. This week the garden will be rearranged and I'll pull that big GDP back and better support the blueberry for flower. That NYCSA is a beast. It's resilient as all hell and just continues getting bigger and fuller. Despite pr9blems in the garden this girl seems absolutely fine. At least I don't have that defeated feeling anymore. I've got flowers on a few different plants. I'll try to get a couple pictures. I may take rapacaps advice and add a cheap plastic roof for later flower. I'm not sure if the explosive flower growth is due to the liquid kool bloom but I think I'm going to switch back to tiger bloom as it works better with the other nutes. I'll jeep this updated but I've got work to do. 8/20 Well it Rained again last night. This is getting discouraging. Now my other 9lb kush has the bottom branch all droopy like there's a borer or something. Realistically with the temp swings and the weather I think it's a firm of root rot or pythiym damage which isn't good. I posted pictures of the stalks and would be grateful if anyone has any advice. I'm go8ng back down to look again for a borer hole but i didn't see one. What it looks like to me is that the petroleum jelly I put on the stalks (to battle ear wigs) seems to keep them moist or something inviting mold or fungus. I'm kind of at a loss. I don't really know where to go from here. I don't know if I should just replant the severely damaged plant away from the rest of the grow, bag it and get rid of it or leave it be and hope for the best. I certainly don't want anything spreading. I'm getting tigerbloom today as my plants still need to eat and I'm nervous about the liquid kool bloom. It's probably fine but still. I'll update after I put in more work and research more today. Any advice helps. UPDATE: No borer holes. The stalk looks fucking horrible. It's supposed to rain today. I'm going to give it one more day then I'll amputate that branch and get rid of the other plant if I don't see an improvement. Perhaps I'll plant it in the ground. Don't really know what to do. Family bar b que today so my options are limited. 8/21 FED TWO GALLONS TO THE GARDEN. ONLY USED .5TSP/GAL OF LIQUID KOOL BLOOM. Did not feed dieing plant. Back to super hot weather 80° at 9am. Did a lot of research last night. I also went to several commercial growers and asked advice. What I came up with was a fusarium infection of pythiym infection (Crown rot). I looked at all my stalks and they all have bark and are darker where I applied the petroleum jelly. I'm also NEVER using DE again. It fucking ridiculous amounts of water. Everyone swears by it bit it's not going in my garden again. Since use I can just watch water sit right on the GD soil. I tried to get some examples of what I'm talking about with the stems. I amputated that lowest bottom branch I trained (which was huge). I didn't have time to dispose of the other plant before my wife's doctor's appointment. I'll update when I go back over. I'm sure this won't help and may hurt but I used Bee Safe 3 in 1 on the wound and around the stalks of the plants I saw discoloration on. I didn't touch the NYCSA even though I see some discoloration. I may just be seeing things. That plant I'd super healthy and I don't want to risk losing it. It doesn't seem to have the stem rot like the others. At least I'm not the only one having problems. I hears some pretty bad stories. Still. I'm heart broken. I'll keep this updated after I go back over. FUCK. I MAY just go back to indoor. UPDATE: Got back from the appointment and the rest of the plant was all droopy just like the other 9lb kush (and the branch amputated). I wondered about that because other branches looked worse. I got the totally dead 9lb kush out and found some root rot. AFTER wheeling the bag out I found earwigs and other insects where the bag had been. Awesome. I used h202 to try to wipe down anything that looked Fingal in the stem. It sucks because it seems like that liquid kool bloom pushed them over the edge into flower. Cotton balls where there was nothing. So that's both my 9lb kush plants and the largest plant of the year the GDP that have all bit the dust. If you grow cannabis you know how I'm feeling. I KEEP TRY8NGVTO UPLOAD THE MINUTE VIDEO I TOOK BUT I CLICK ON SOMETHING ELSE AND IT DISAPPEARS. WIFI SLOW. HAVE TO WAIT FOR 5G 8/22 What do I say? Fusarium? Pythium? Stem rot? I'm going to have to get a tent to do some indoor to get the medicine I need for me and my wife. I took the last 9lb kush out and disposed of it. Well it's still in the bag. I'm hoping maybe it might come out of it (beyond hope and far away from the others (but I'm going to toss it today). This blows so hard. Flowers are just starting to develop. I like the liquid kool bloom. It seems to make flowers explode when there was none before. At least on the plants I have left. Actually even the dieing ones started flowering. I'm really concerned considering that one plant (at least) has septoria and every plant has that petroleum jelly on it. Cautio to people that use that. It seems thats where the rot started or is. In spots I spread the petroleum jelly. Anyway my NYCSA has the smallest amount of "funky looking stuff on the stem" so I'm hoping it will make it. Cotton balls starting to appear. If I lose the whole fucking crop I'm gonna go ape shit. UPDATE: Spoke with a few others and did more research. I removed my braces on the bottom of all the plants. It looks like the pjelly and the brace allowed for some type of contaminate. Other growers think I'm being too bleak. They think things will turn out okay. They are more knowledgeable about cannabis than me but I'm with these particular plants everyday. They're probably right and my anxiety is just getting g to me. It's scary seeing a healthy plant completely die in such a short time. After removing the other 9lb kush I could easily see extreme rootbound roots still too the size of the 1 gallon they came in. The bag was PACKED FULL of tight roots so they definitely made it down. The plant however just fell over when I pushed it. I had roughed it up a big before. Anyway I'm praying to the cannabis gods to not take what I have left. 8/23 Fucking pouring again. This sucks. I've gotten loads of advice and made another friend on here. I forgot my phone so I couldn't take pictures this morning. My spirits are up a little seeing that others are at least attempting to help. I'm headed to the grow shop after a night of research to grab supplies to battle this. I'll update later. EDIT: I picked up plant doctor at the grow shop. It was 50% off and I couldn't find anything with trichodermia. However, I've heard good things about this plant doctor. It's systemic and can be used as a root drench and a foliar spray. BIGGEST selling point for me is that it SPECIFICALLY lists fusarium, grey mold. Pythiym crown rot, black mold and all kinds of other shit. The thing that sucks is it's raining and it's not supposed to stop for a few days. That's going to make application more difficult. Oh well. I think I may do a root drench on the one plant that has a wilted bottom branch. I'll keep this updated. Thank you everyone who reached out. Especially growing grannies and my commercial buddy who is always here for me. However he has no experience with this so I'm kinda on my own here. EDIT: I couldn't find trichodermia and I don't have time to wait around and order. I found plant doctor which literally lists it treats all the possibly pathogens my issue could be. Even has a section for medical Marijuana. I did a root drench on the plant up front in the middle AND I did a foliar spray. Might as well get the septoria too. It's systemic but it gets in faster through the leaves I guess. It started sprinkling and I want to test this stuff out before I go ham with it. I did give some to the to other plants bit left my best AND THE TWO SMALLER ONES alone for now. I'm not seeing those issues on the NYCSA and I don't want to risk damaging it. I chose tge root drench as it's raining and the instructions for fusarium WAS a root drench. Thank you all for your help. I will close out tge question once I know it's figured out. Wish me luck. DID A SHORT VIDEO BUT WIFI IS SUPER SLOW SO I NEED TO WAIT TO UPLOAD IT. Went back over. Finished foliar spraying the other two and left the NYCSA and two Littles alone. Hopefully this works. I did I short video. Who knows if it uploads. UPDATE: Went back over and finished foliar spraying. Took a bunch of pictures and did a video but it didn't upload. I'm hoping this will do it. Plants actually look good. And they're flowering nicely! It's too bad I had to do a foliar bug this us supposed to combat PM and septoria as well. 8/24 It Rained last night but hasn't Rained today yet. It's supposed to and uts overcast. I'm really considering putting a roof on my grow (like rapacap suggested) for flower to decrease mold chances. Plants looked happy. I saw no negative effects from the Plant Doctor. I even sprayed a branch of the NYCSA and the stem and a little around tge roots. I finally feel like I can take a breath. I've been working so hard and worrying about losing g everything. I may have been able to save that 9lbkush but I don't think bit was worth taking the chance. The sun is peaking out now. My buddy at the grow shop called and set a side general hydroponics armor si 0-0-4 silica supplement cause it was 90% off. I pad like a buck sixty lol. I'll incorporate that next feed or water. Whatever comes first but it will be good to get it in the regimen. I was worried plant doctor might hurt but the girls seemed to kike it and I went ham on the worst plant. I mixed according to medical Marijuana guidelines on the label (Theres another label on the internet, it's not on this one, it's at the very bottom and just recommdations from commercial growers. I hope this stuff works. Things look better already though. That liquid kool bloom is the bees knees. That's making flowers pop up like crazy! I think I'll stick with it. I was going to use beastie bloom and cha ching later on (and still might) but I hate the lockout bullshit. I've done a bunch of videos but most don't get uploaded as i forget to upload when I leave and wifi is slow here. Anyway at least I've got a few good ones left and pleating the words of my commercial poll buddy, "barring anything catastrophic you should be fine. I know your anxiety gets the better of you sometimes." Couldn't be a truer statement. I'm still getting a tent and doing indoor though. I'm going to need to. 8/25 Did some slight defoliation. I think today I'm going to reorganize my grow space. Things are looking better though. Plants look healthier. Flower is on and they are going to beat hell. I'm glad I took a cutting from NY 9lb kush. I also took one from the NYCSA. THose are tge little ones. The 9lb kush is flowering pretty good. Too bad it's just on a 3 gal. The NYCSA us in a 10 gal grow bag though and is doing amazing. I still see septoria on the leaves. I'm sure I'll need to reapply plant doctor but thus far I'm impressed. Things LOOK better. I don't even remember the last time I watered. It Rained last night. Looks sunny today. I'm going to feed tomorrow. I want the soil to dry out though. We usually don't get consistent rain like this. It's a first for me. I'll update later if I get stuff done.still wondering if I should amputate that wilted branch or give it a bit. It's still attached right now. I'll get some sealant and do some more research.
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Grow Questions
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
This is more a "website specific" ? Fone has no storage and won't allow me to take pictures. Is there a way to upload photos directly to the grow diary app ,without using the memory of phone. Like on FB when you can just take a fresh picture? Just trying to make it till its fixed
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Don't know, man... but I do know you can upload a whole ton of photos to a diary so just go try it! Nothing ventured, nothing gained... good luck!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
How much pH down can I add to water to safely lower the pH of my soil? It's h frog and I've only watered a couple times. They were rootbound when got in 1g and I transplant to 3g. Ph is like 7.5-.8.5 with a soil gauge. Any other ideas? Thanks folks.
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Chow_13
Chow_13answered grow question 2 years ago
You never want to adjust out of range. As others have said your plants look good so no need to get it in range by flushing with PH water. Continue as normal, But make sure your water is in the range of 6.0-7.0. Never go out of that range even when adjusting.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
How do you deal with ear wigs? They are in the grow bag itself. Raked fingers through top and 6 popped out. They already spreading diseases. Dealt with them before but not very well. Someone with experience please help. Also any tips for treating septoria would be appreciated
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masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolanswered grow question 2 years ago
Bugs definitely spread disease. Leaf hoppers specifically caring many diseases. This grow is destroyed because of fusarium oxysporum. I don't want people getting misinformation.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
Can someone please look over this week and last week of my diary? I've lost two massive plants in the span of a couple days time. One may have been rootbound (in 50 gals) and this is in a 20gallon. Roots did smell a little musty. Should I try a peroxide flush? Any other ideas?
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Damn... I don't know what to say except that I'm growing here in Maine myself and it HAS been a bitch of a season! And I chose THIS year to do my first-ever outdoor grow... It sure sounds to me like root rot - but that wouldn't make any sense if the ground underneath them was dry! I know you want to learn - and maybe someone else will be able to point you in a logical direction - but you've asked the commercial grower and I'll echo what he said: shit happens... and 1 (now 2) plants in 4 years... you shouldn't be ashamed!! The humidity has been grotesque, the heat, the bugs, the fungus, the wind, the everything... I'd take this opportunity to, as you said, to spread your grow out a little bit to get better air flow through the rest of your grow. One thing popped into my head as I was reading what the commercial grower said to you... I've just recently read a rather crazy article about how we're planting trees (bear with me) the wrong way... that we encourage them to become rootbound... that we should instead of digging a nice round hole, dig a square hole (sounds daffy to me) and KEEP THE BOTTOM OF THE HOLE SLANTED, planting the tree at the top of the little hill so the roots are encouraged to grow DOWN, not AROUND... So all of that to say, if these were clones, maybe they DID get rootbound in their circular pots and needed more encouragement to grow DOWN... like bottom watering at the beginning? Just a thought.... (and most of that thought was a little weird!)... Good luck, man... I think we here in Maine, like in so many other parts of the world, are going to have to contend with conditions we've never had to contend with before... but onward and upward... Good luck.....
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
Anybody have experience with stem rot? Fusarium or pythiym among other things? I've lost 4 already and this is MY medication and the meds for my cancer ridden glaucomic wife. I need to do the best I can. I used p jelly on stalk could that be it. What do I do?
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Yikes! I've never dealt with this myself nor do I know of anyone who HAS ... but JUST today I was reading several articles on fungus and that name kept popping up.... here are some links if you haven't tried to find the answer elsewhere: This guy on youtube has a LOT of fairly good vids on cannabis - this is his on fusarium... www.youtube.com/watch If you don't want to hear him drone on, this is a good article: https://www.lahuertagrowshop.com/blog/en/how-to-prevent-and-get-rid-of-fusarium-in-cannabis/ The youtube guy has THIS on Pythium: www.youtube.com/watch And a really good article on it: https://www.growopportunity.ca/pythium-a-fungal-devastation-to-avoid/ GOOD LUCK - omg good luck!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolstarted grow question 2 years ago
Hey folks. I'm looking to do indoor this winter. I'd like to get a tent with everything kinda ready to go. I would like a nice light ad well. Would I be better off buying a complete tent or buying each item separately. Looking to fit a few plants. Lookin 4 opinions
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 2 years ago
A couple of 2x4's some screws and tacks, and some black and white plastic from the hydroponic store and you can build any size tent you like. You can use a cheap pond liner from home depot for the floor, then you can water to runoff all you like and just vacuum it up with a wet vac.
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Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capweek 12
Hey Smeagol, you need a transparent roof. Since you have a ready-made metal structure, to build a roof with trasparent PVC will be easy and cheap and It will drastically reduce the problems related to excessive soil moisture. To fight earwigs consider a systemic pyrethroid, if stigmas aren't yet apperead this will be absolutely safe. It's the time to think to build a greenhouse for her
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_cap
@masterofsmeagol, at this stage your plants are compromised and a cheapy plastic top will protects them from morning dew but don't expect miracles. In a dryer climate like mine a soft plastic top is enough and in case of hail I promptly add a plastic net layer. The plastic cover is fixed while the net is removable. I've used PE ultra clear plastic tablecloths (5 dollars). For the next year think to build a top with rigid plastic like polycarbonate (here 5 sq. meters cost 250 bucks). You have to control the amount of water that reaches the ground trying to keep the environment dry even if it always rains. Planting into the ground requires anyway a drainage layer, 1.30 ft minimum is obligatory. In plain soil plants can withstand everything
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@Rap_a_cap, you are right this year. However all the prior years were fine? My commercial friend said that putting a top on "just so buds don't get wet" is pointless. They will be covered in morning dew everyday and if the roof collapses it can crush everything. He said the hails devastating though. He uses pallet bags to cover his. I still think I can get MOST of the rain off the plant and soil with a top. If not maybe bags? May cage is just wire. The sides are all open.
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_cap
@masterofsmeagol, you're always welcome. It's clear at this point that all issues of yours are caused by too wet environment. Do you want to win the battle with Maine's climate? Change the grow site, spend time to properly prepare the soil in winter, plant your next girls directly into the ground and never defoliated the plants.
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Northern_Ent
Northern_Entweek 22
A genuine DJ Short Blueberry is on my to-grow list, and it looks like it does well outdoors. Cheers.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@Northern_Ent, its good 'old reliable and ALL many people in my area grow due to its resilience and aptitude for this climate. I recommend you give it a shot! Thanks for stopping by!
Northern_Ent
Northern_Entweek 20
Careful with the ladders there Gollum (or are you the ring? It’s been a while since I read those books). Seriously, ladders are surprisingly high on lists of injuries. Good luck with the rest of your grow.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@Northern_Ent, haha I messaged you. My wife is smeagol lol. She woke up one morning and thought she looked bad and said "I look like a smeagol!" She didn't know smeagol was his name. It was just a funny moment and it stuck. So I guess it's an inside joke with us.
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieweek 18
Sigh.... onward and upward, MASTERofSMEAGOL!!!!!!!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@GrowingGrannie, Yes ma'am! My turn for mother nature to take her cut. I should've practiced crop rotation anyway......I learned a lot though! I may end up not getting TOTALLY skunked but we'll see. Thanks for stopping by!
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieweek 18
Oh this is so painful to see - but you're right to keep the diary going - so OTHERS can see and so you, yourself can look back to see if you missed something and when. I'm SO sorry... Maine's weather has NOT been good to outdoor crops at all this year.... we can only hope NEXT year is better - and turn to our indoor grows... at least THERE, we don't have to contend with Mother Nature...
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@GrowingGrannie, yes it sure is a sorry sight. Yeah the weather where i am has been crazy. I havent seen anything like it. Oh well though. Thats ok. We cant hit a grandslam every time we are up to bat. I changed the diary name so it might aid others in finding it. I should've taken the last two down today. I was busy though. I have a feeling tomorrow may be the end of the last two infected. Well.....that I know are infected. Blueberry MAAAY be but it isn't showing the same signs. It has some issues for sure but not the stem cancer or staining or the wilt. Yet. Only time will tell. No sigms of on the cuttings i took either. Ill put some pictures of those uo as well. Those look healthy. Thanks for stopping by @GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieweek 16
Hey - I can't imagine the physical labor you're pouring into this... my heart goes out! And the rain!! THE RAIN!!! but good for applying a soil drench, I suppose! My fingers are crossed that the Plant Doctor works for you... Glad you found it! Wondering if you're going to look for some of that other stuff... the trachsalmerfjadjgfh? LOL! I'll keep checking back!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@GrowingGrannie, Thank you ma'am. No one said it was easy. Especially in our neck of the woods.
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieweek 16
Wow... you really DID do some pruning, didn't you! I honestly thought you were going to lose her - but look at her now! Smashing! That is REAL commitment!
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@GrowingGrannie, yes I did! Unfortunately another night of rain. I've done what I can. It's up to her now. Thank you for the conpliment!
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capweek 14
I'm sorry for Ur girl, the shit happens. Seems to be a massive systemic botrytis attack. Stems are grey.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@Rap_a_cap, thanks man. It happened very fast but I haven't lost a plant since I came back four years ago so it was coming. It's my turn for mother nature to take her cut I guess.
GreenGlowes
GreenGlowesweek 14
Good luck with your gro! 😎
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@@GreenGlowes, thanks I can certainly use it this year
JahJahLight
JahJahLightweek 13
Jah bless you harvest, nice job! 👽
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@JahJahLight, thank you growmie
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capweek 8
Hey Smeagol, why do you use pots instead of plain soil? Local laws? Your choice? Stay safe Mate
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@Rap_a_cap, well it's a combination of a few different things. Mainly it's because I can't dig at this location. I'm hoping to change locations next year. I'd prefer to go in ground where the soil is better. However, using bags or pots allows me the ability to transport them inside a very large building (used to house heavy equipment) if it becomes necessary. It usually doesn't but it's nice to have the option. Even though by fall the bags are usually rooted right to the ground....Thanks for stopping by! Happy growing my friend!
Rap_a_cap
Rap_a_capweek 4
Nice setup, Mate. Your girls seem very happy, to me. Good luck
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@Rap_a_cap, Thank you my friend. Happy growing!
Dingle_Dangle
Dingle_Dangleweek 1
#OUTDOORGANG Good luck 😉🌞
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@Dingle_Dangle, That's right! Good luck to you as well!
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 1
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagol
@love_2_grow, Thanks man! You too!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeweek 22
Hey, really nice diary. I was looking at your fox farm review..(about the salt) have you tried Green House Feeding mineral line, that mixed with their bioenhancer seems to be doing me ok. Still some tip burn, but putting that down to me. Some lovely results.. so lucky to have outdoors.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeweek 22
Very nice grows. Good luck on the other one. Enjoy your harvests.
masterofsmeagol
masterofsmeagolweek 9
Hey fellow growers. If any of you veteran outdoor growers wouldn't mind, take a look at my diary and leave some constructive criticism. It would be good to hear from other folks.