Dutch Passion Shaman grow diary (journal) week27 by Experimentgreen

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I've had them turn when they are dry, water and next day back to normal. I'd be worried if they change color in the middle and not the tip.

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CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, i'm digging the frost on those fan leaves - did somebody say potency ?? 😂

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@7th5ag3, you're so awesome for commenting thank you. I live in the hardcore desert, a typical hot season is like 10% humidity and hmm 85-103 F. Im sure my vpd is redzone so that might be the cause. I better stay up on my watering practices.

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HighTVcommentedweek 206 years ago

@Experimentgreen, 20 weeks and counting 😲 What a lovely diary honestly!

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HighTVcommented6 years ago

@CRiSPrGrow, haha yeah that's also true! Gas exchanges happen at the stomata not your thermometer lol

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CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago

@HighTV, @experimentgreen, a lot of the time when folks do vpd on here, i notice they take their grow room's temperature, but actually you do need a laser thermometer to measure the temperature of the leaves (often a few degrees colder than the room itself), yes, not as easy as it seems....

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HighTVcommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, @bulbi I think the VPD chart is fine by itself as long as you understand the variables at their core. Typically if you are off on one variable you far out of the green because they use variables that are already dependent on eachother - Like Temperature and Humidity. "Relative humidity (RH) is the ratio of the partial pressure of water vapor to the equilibrium vapor pressure of water at a given temperature. Relative humidity depends on temperature and the pressure of the system of interest." So the Chart to new people could imply to get into the green you need to raise your humidity by 10%. But it doesn't say that raising your RH 10% lowers the Air-pressure and in turn lowers the temperature. Long story short - it works to help the last 5%-10% of improvement but the reality is you struggle to meet VPD its not because of a single stat like the chart says- its due to all of the stats and changing one changes the others. (To be honest.. this is honestly probably more a personal vendetta lol but struggling for a good VPD has never been worth it to me )

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 166 years ago

Lookn good - let the flower show begin! Did DP provide any details to u on expected flowering time?

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, which only begs the next question then - when’s end of warm season for you guys? I’m gonna assume ur in Cali because it sounds like the opposite of the minus temps climate hell we’re just starting into here 😤

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, so i messed up its shows 7-8 indoor and end of the warm season for outdoor.

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, I’d probably lean high side of 10 then. Like you said it’s outdoor. Really interesting strain to watch👌🤩. Good luck but I don’t think you’ll need it👍😉

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Experimentgreencommentedweek 126 years ago

@Teamdirtbag2 i reopened her..but still badly behind. Maybe itll be complete next month lol

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Teamdirtbag2commented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, Yes it is especially when you explain every moment of the week. That's why I'm vague sometimes. If people really want to know they can ask.😂😂

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Teamdirtbag2, its hard keeping up several diaries at once...i seriously dont know how the hell you do it?

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Teamdirtbag2commented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, no worries. Take your time. Dont rush it. But I will congratulate you now. Nice job.

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 286 years ago

I’m gonna day that I called this from the get-go and strike my own ego! Congrats on placing this month. Well deserved, this plant was awesome👌💪😎

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, I agree for sure. That said, we should start seeing more as spring turns through May (at least up here of course). That’s gonna include mine and I’ll have a few plants going this year. Can’t freakn wait.👍😎

Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, thank you so much. I was so proud of this plant that ill admit i was a little sad when i thought she had lost. 😕 it was the only outdoor to place in February...it's crazy how much more indoors there are than outdoor grows.

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Teamdirtbag2commentedweek 146 years ago

Wow!! The week's are just flying by. You are way better at this than you let off. Can we just fast forward???? 🤣😂😅 Lmao

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Teamdirtbag2commented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, of course I am .... 🤣🤣😂😂 always.... but I looked back and you are doing a great job. I probably wouldn't be able to do it. And especially that nice of a job. No.... no blank weeks. It needs to be seen, you did an amazing job. 😍

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Teamdirtbag2, lol you poking fun at me? Cause i manage to post weeks in a matter of day? Lol...am i suppose to be doing a bunch and bunch of blank weeks? 🤔 eh f it, i just want the diary seen.

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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 286 years ago

Congratulations!!!!!! Finally ... aloong time from seedling to harvest ... it was really a" roadtrip"... enjoy

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, oh my, seriously a long journey. But worth it and fun.

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growdoctordccommentedweek 226 years ago

Now that you’re flowering the low RH isn’t an issue. Maybe next season if it’s practical a frame and plastic? But that will add heat. No perfect answer. You did great, as expected! Enjoy

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@growdoctordc, Thanks doc, i appreciate you. Living in the deserts just something I'll have to cope with i guess....or move lol.

Athoscommentedweek 216 years ago

Aaarggh... outdoors, nooooo, bugs!!!

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@@Athos, God Save The Queen! The bugs have invaded! Call in the Spiders and the other natural predators! Go Go Go!

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BudsZAcommentedweek 16 years ago

Great grow! I'm starting my shaman grow guide too. Hope to get similar results :)

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@BudsZA, thats awesome! Im so excited to see it. When i first started there werent any shamans, so i had no comparison to go off.

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Ironlungscommentedweek 146 years ago

Hey you

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Ironlungs, hey back at ya! Hows everything going?

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psyychcommentedweek 136 years ago

looking very well !

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@psyych, thanks this plant has been one tough bugger...i got very lucky when i picked this for one of my summer strains.

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 156 years ago

Well she’s none the worse for wear! Lookn great dude!👍

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 246 years ago

Every time a visit this diary EG I get giddy for the outdoor growing season up here. This plant is straight gorgeous. And I couldn’t agree more regarding your thoughts on nutes. I’m trying to stick with one line (botanicare) best I can to truly dial in the avg. limits for feedings. Regardless of indoor or outdoor I want to know what’s the general max because I’d rather be battling a deficiency than a toxicity issue which would simply be harder for the plant to recover from. Great info, great grow! 😎

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, and u and yours as well EG! Cheers!

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, yes please. I'm a reader so anytime someone can suggest something and i have a good chance of it being decent already because they've already read it, I'm all over it.✌️ Thanks my friend, hope you and your wife are having a good new year

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, that’s cool I’ll prob. Check it out. Had a chat with someone on here about that as well - we tend to make it too complicated sometimes. Plant seed, add water smoke buds! It’s a living thing - to be healthy it requires moderation not excess! If u have an interest in the science behind it I read a good book recently called marijuana cultivation reconsidered by Read Spear. He makes a number of very enlightening observations which even debunk some commonly held beliefs. And thank you for the ear wig tip. They could easily be what was popping the occasional leaf hole last year and my wife hates em so we’ll be giving this a try I think👍. Cheers!

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Teamdirtbag2commentedweek 16 years ago

I cant believe it.....I cant ... I have really wanted to see this strain for years... it is about time... but I'm so confused... is this a brand new plant ??? Did you just germinate this girl ??? The secret's .... I cant take it.. I need to know.... wtf...1st week.... ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Please let me know................................................??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Teamdirtbag2, hey you, i saw someone else finally has a shaman diary up.

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Teamdirtbag2commented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, you will get more than 1 bud I'm sure of that. Yes we will see. I cant wait. Would she just start flowering...

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Teamdirtbag2, I'll keep doing the weeks until its caught up...hopefully It can manage to produce at least 1 bud...then we can see if it really is purple or not

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OutForRealcommentedweek 286 years ago

Hey you have impressed me with your yield ! Much love 😚

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, tried indoor lst techniques on an outdoor myself and wasn’t all that impressed with the results. Almost like you’re growing against the grain and the plants growth should be dictated by the sun to max out its potential. Something to consider anyway...

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@OutForReal, im gonna have to get real creative with the garden this summer....knowing how much light is available now, I've gotta really rethink some things. Otherwise only plant strains that are good outdoors like the shaman. Maybe if i tie em down and treat them like an indoor that only gets overhead light?

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OutForRealcommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, Ok so I'm twice more impressed sis 😃 mine did not received a lot of ☀️ too but I need at least 6 plant to yields like yours 👍

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 286 years ago

Looking great - this one is def. gonna be worth the wait EG👍👌🤙

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, hee hee hee 😜 🤩🤩🤩. And that right there is why u can’t beat outdoor! Beautiful👌

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, it's about 12 ounces of buds and another like 2 gallon bags of trim and popcorn. Crazy for how much shade it got. We were at like hmm only maybe 4-6 hours of direct light most of the time, maybe less. There's this big ass tree that seriously has got to go.

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, my last outdoor was about the same size but in a 10gal. Pot and it was easily gonna push 8oz. +. If you’re in a 15 I gotta say at least 10oz. On a look????? Am I close? If I’m way short that would be awesome and you should consider opening up retail with that kinda supply! Lol

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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 286 years ago

And you tested the trimbag=? pls tell me about it, i recieved mine to late for harvest, never tested at all

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, hey lovely lady, i loaded a photo of the actual trimbag results. It's pretty well trimmed but had some large stems that didn't get removed. I think it works best on big buds and when the bag is pretty full...rather than a tiny load.✌️

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, so i actually got mine as a tester from one of the people who work there which was very nice of them. It works well if you can have the plants pretty dry and don't mind doing a small finishing trim. It may or may not knock of trichromes in the process and be a little less sparkly.

TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 266 years ago

My understanding of trichomes is that it’s not entirely confirmed as to their actual purpose in nature. Probably due to the lack of study on the plant as a result of its questionable legality. A lot of what I’ve read though suggests that they may actually be a pest and predator deterrent. The stickiness they create can trap some insects like fly paper (obvious given some of the critters I’ve pulled out before). I’d imagine it’s also not the easiest plant for most herbivores to eat for this same reason. Like eating peanut butter that refuses to dilute in your mouth! Lol. Best I got on the subject so far anyway.😉. Plants looking awesome and u must be getting impatient!👍👌

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Experimentgreen, np and anytime! IMO - outdoor is where you gain the real experience. Think we all often forget that if you want to grow stellar weed you have to appreciate what it means to be a skilled gardener first😉. That lesson took more failed grow attempts for me than I care to admit! Lol!!!

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, You rock! That's exactly the answer i was aiming for. It's function as a defense mechanism. Given i do outdoor that's part of my battle, pest management. However my thoughts were that i rarely see any bugs willing to go navigate into my trichromes. I know some pests can manage in there, possibly the ones who move through the stems and such without being noticed with the eye to begin with. I just wanted to see if anyone ever thinks about how useful all the pieces of the puzzle are...beyond their function of getting one stoned or other medicinal aspects. 💚🌱💚 thanks for responding. 😊

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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 196 years ago

Again to the problem with dry air,,, as long as the roots have it cool and shady and you give them enough water, i think the plants have no big problem. Are they into the ground or into pots? if they are into pots try to cool the roots https://www.growweedeasy.com/prevent-cannabis-heat-stress-outdoors maybe we can talk per PM... i had this year a very hot summer, i only looked at the thermoeter i di not look at the hydrometer. But i thik if its hot and dry it was similar

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Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, definitely, I'll look at that page link and we'll have to talk shop and trade notes. 💚

Experimentgreencommented6 years ago

@Mrs_Larimar, they're in 15 gallon smart pots but the roots are growing into the dirt below.☺️ Im sure all my plants will know is dry air...some will adjust to it and some maybe wont. I might need to research some desert strains rather than jungle strains.

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