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BLOOM WEEK 5 (Sept 19-25) ---------------------------------------------- Sept 19 AM (2L @ 19c) Mix: 15ml Silica, 24ml CaMg, 18ml PK 13/14 : 12L water = 1.7 EC 🌡️: 28c ⬇️ ❄️: 24c ✅ 🌧️: 54.4% 🆗⬆️ ☁️: 49% ✅ 📈: 1.67 ⬇️ 📉: 1.32 ✅ 📊: 1.48 ✅ • Runoff tested from ELB/CG : 4.7 / 4.0 EC out We've got 3 days until we let the pots dry out. Until then it's daily watering at 2.2 EC with the bloom nutrients at lights on. A few hours before lights off we'll water with Silica/CalMag at 1.5-1.7 EC. Pots are drying out faster and adding another watering event should help keep the EC lower. ____________________ Sept 20 (2L @ 20c) Mix: 36ml CaMg, 36ml A, 36ml B, 24ml Sensizym: 4.5 gallons = 2.0 EC / 6.2 pH • No runoff except CG (4.0 EC) Lower fans have some rust spots...possibly nutrient burn (rust does not transfer to fingers when rubbed), but I'm worried it's a phosphorus or potassium lockout. Maybe it's Calcium toxicity...that can produce yellow/brown leaf tips AND lock out phosphorus. Will keep a close eye on this as it's probably the worst time you could lock out those nutrients. I've increased the pH of my feed to 6.1-6.2 for the time being. All the nutrient charts I look at show those elements being most available at a pH over 6.0 and my last runoffs had pH under 5.8. Room is running hot but leaf temps seem ok. Sitting around 82-84F room temp, leaf temp is 76-80F. I'm setting my humidity based on LEAF temp, not room temp. Plants are drinking a ton and require a small watering a few hours before lights off. This is a sign of high transpiration. ______________________ Sept 20 PM (1L @ 20c) Mix: Left from the morning (2.0 EC/6.1 pH) • No runoff • Hygrometer is fucking up big time 🌡️: OFFLINE ❄️: OFFLINE 🌧️: OFFLINE ☁️: OFFLINE 📈: OFFLINE 📉: OFFLINE 📊: OFFLINE ________________ Sept 21 (2-3L) Mix: 20ml Silica, 32ml CaMg, 24ml PK 13/14 : 4.5 gallons = 1.6 EC pH 5.8 pH 🌡️: 27.8c ⬇️ ❄️: 23.6c ✅ 🌧️: 61.7% ✅ ☁️: 54.1% ✅ 📈: 1.32 ✅ 📉: 1.29 ✅ 📊: 1.3 ✅ Small amount of runoff. They get a full watering tomorrow with base nutes + additives at 2.2 EC, then nothing until the start of week 6 when I flush. ___________________ Sept 22 (6L @ 20c) Mix: 24ml CaMg, 36ml A, 36ml B, 24ml B52, 25ml Sensizym, 20ml PB Tea : 5 gal = 2.2 EC "KC1 In: 2.2 EC/5.8 pH Out: ERROR EC/5.1 pH (21c) (+?? EC) "KC2 In: 2.2 EC/5.8 pH Out: 5.2 EC/5.3 pH (22c) (+3.0 EC) "GS In: 2.2 EC/5.8 pH Out: 5.2 EC/4.8 pH (22c) (+3.0 EC) "ELB In: 2.2 EC/5.8 pH Out: ERROR EC/5.1 pH (22c) (+?? EC) *MC In: 2.2 EC/5.8 pH Out: 4.3 EC/5.3 pH (22c) (+2.1 EC) *CG In: 2.2 EC/5.8 pH Out: ERROR EC/5.2 pH (22c) (+?? EC) 🌡️: 27.2c ✅ ❄️: 22.5c ✅ 🌧️: 61.7% ✅ ☁️: 48.9% ✅ 📈: 1.52 ✅ 📉: 1.17 ✅ 📊: 1.24 ✅ Yeeeeahhhh...level of concern is pretty high right now. Half the plants runoffs errored out my EC reader. We're talking 9.9 EC. The other half are 3.0 EC over base. Runoff pH is way low too. Not sure how concerned I should be with that. Most of what I read says it doesn't matter. If it matters, my pH is way out of range. Only a few days until the flush but I'm wanting to dump all kinds of water on them NOW!! The containers are light at 7:30 AM after getting 6L of 2.2 EC each last night at midnight. __________ Sept 23 Water only "KC1 In: 0.3 EC/7.4 pH (8L) Out: 1.9 EC/5.7 in pH (23c) "KC2 In: 0.3 EC/7.4 pH (8L) Out: 1.9 EC/5.7 pH (22c) "GS In: 0.3 EC/7.4 pH (4L) Out: 2.4 EC/5.6 pH (22c) "ELB In: 0.3 EC/7.4 pH (8L) Out: 2.3 EC/5.6 pH (23c) *MC In: 0.3 EC/7.4 pH (2L) Out: 1.9 EC/5.5 pH (21+c) *CG In: 0.3 EC/7.4 pH (2L) Out: 2.1 EC/6.0 pH (23c) • EC reader was on low battery, false readings yesterday Pulled the trigger on a light, water only flush (1/2 the substrate). The 3 gallon pots didn't need much at all (MC/CG 2L). It probably didn't even need flushing but I'll sleep good tonight. pH is back in range as well. ________________ Sept 24 (1-2L) Mix: 12ml CaMg, 12ml A, 12ml B, 10ml B52, 5ml PB Tea : 7L water = 2.2 EC • No runoff • Tied up branches on MC/ELB/KC • Tied branches away from cage on GS • Didn't see ANY gnats 🌡️: 27.4c ✅ ❄️: 22c ✅ 🌧️: 60.5% ✅ ☁️: 54.6% ✅ 📈: 1.58 ✅ 📉: 1.22 ✅ 📊: 1.4 ✅ I've decided I'm not going to dry out the pots. Reason being is the amount of perlite I have in these containers are already allowing enough oxygen to the roots. The logic behind the dry back is to get more oxygen to the roots, and I'm not having that problem. Instead, I'll just water with less volume, for no runoff, at high strength until week 6 starts, then flush. Colas are getting heavy and I had to tie a bunch of branches to the cages. Really nice aromas developing and flowers are already caked with trichomes. _____________________ Sept 25 (2L @ 20c) Mix: 18ml CaMg, 36ml A, 36ml B, 12ml B52, 12ml PB Tea : 12L water = 2.2 EC 🌡️: 27c ✅ ❄️: 22.3c ✅ 🌧️: 59.9% ✅ ☁️: 52.4% ✅ 📈: 1.32 ✅ 📉: 1.19 ✅ 📊: 1.28 ✅ ***END OF WEEK 5***
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 0
Sweet line up. I’m in for the long run
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, Thanks homie! Hoping to get a few keepers out of these cuts 🤞
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardenweek 0
Love the genetics you are growing, looking forward to see how they grow Good luck with the germination ser 🙏🙌
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 4
Hate to say it but maybe the one cupping contracted a virus when cut for the clone/rooting.. hard to know for sure without testing tho
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, Always appreciate the input dude. Looking closer into my VPD...my humidity might be low for the day temps too. And I've been lowering it on purpose lol FK me
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruh
@Louder, could very well be.. you’re experienced and know different plants do different stuff. Just wanted to comment that, in case you hadn’t thought of it! Love ethos tho, excited to see how they turn out
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, it's pretty strange for sure. I had some cupping after topping during my last run, but that was just the two main fans, not new growth. These cuts DID come from a friend but I took every measure to make sure they were clean. The mothers looked super healthy too. Looking at my daily watering schedule for the last few weeks (in notes), I was dumping a lot into them and the PPM wasn't very high either. My gut is telling me it's overwatering combined with pH spikes and underfertilizing. For now I'm just backing off the watering, increasing the PPM and monitoring the runoff to see where the pH is going.
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XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreenweek 3
Beautiful garden growmie👨‍🌾😃🌲💚
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_MrGreen, I'm pretty sure that's part of it. I already raised the lamps to about 40" from the canopy and that's giving me a really dumb, low DLI. I lowered the humidity (50-60%), raised night time temperatures to 22-23 from 20-21c...I turned down the fans ...stopped watering for a few days. It could honestly be a number of things. I've been overwatering...possibly underfertilizing...idk man lol
XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreen
@Louder, that means the light is to bright for this lady.. I got one in my tent now too (sapphire), if more plants in the tent would show those signs I would turn it down.. since it's only 1 I say fk it 😜
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_MrGreen, thanks, working at it my dude. Trying to sort out this leaf cupping.
XII_XII_EarlyRaver
XII_XII_EarlyRaverweek 9
Wauw bro this is legit shit haha wauw you're a sirious grower my friend 💪🏻👌🏻🔥 so now I look like a amature lol hahahah really lovely grow sir 👌🏻👌🏻 I'm following this for sure bro keep up the good work 👌🏻💪🏻
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_EarlyRaver, Thanks homie! Big effort on this run. MAXIMUM effort. Your grows look far from amateur my dude, been watching em for a minute 👍
Crashoverite
Crashoveriteweek 9
Good luck with your grow mate ✌️
Louder
Louder
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardenweek 7
Nice Line-up, good luck with the rest of the grow ser 🙏🙌
Louder
Louder
@Wishar_Garden, big thanks 🍻
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 3
Happy growing this Ethos cultivar, hope for great harvest!
Louder
Louder
@WhiteEdge, cheers fella! 🍻
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420week 16
Wow what a diary! Great job mate. Just took me half hour to read and I must say the work and effort you have put into this is amazing. Great looking plants 🌱 ✌️👊🏻😍
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420
@Louder, I’m on the hunt bro. Thanks for the advise 👊🏻✌️ keep smashing it brother
Louder
Louder
@Green_Man_420, Thanks dude, I was determined to smash this run after having a brutal yield last winter. This one still wasn't perfect but I'm pretty chuffed about it. Can't complain. Ethos is blowing up right now. One of the top breeders imo. Haven't been disappointed with any of their gear. There's seed banks in North America that will ship worldwide. Brotanical Gardens might be worth a shot. I've personally never used them so I can't speak on the reliability but I've never had an issue with any seed bank I've ordered from. Happy hunting!
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420
@Louder, honestly mate it’s a cracking diary! A lot of time and effort has gone into it. Great job ✌️ I really wanna try Ethos but not sure where to get them in the U.K.
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FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 7
Hey how much space do you have to work? What are your room dimensions? It looks custom!
Louder
Louder
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianG
@Louder, hell yeah bro you got some space to make shit happen 😎
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Yeah! I built this area off a spare bedroom in my basement. It's all built around the 8" exhaust that runs straight through a concealed chase I made through the master bedroom closet and vented through the roof. I framed out the walls for 3 1/2" batts, insulated with R22 safe and sound and boarded it with mold resistant drywall. Ceiling is strapped out to hide some of the cables and the hygrometer probe (kinda wish I just kept the height). I installed insulated drycore squares for the floor and put flat white primer on everything. All the corners are caulked with silicone and that bitch is air tight. The poly zipper door in front of the access door pulls right in when the extractor kicks on and puffs out when the intake goes on. It measures 4' 6" W x 9' 6" L (+ door swing) x 6' 6" H. Not much headroom in there
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 13
Wow this ETHOS clones are insanely frosty. Great work on this man!
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdge
@Louder, No daubt in that!
Louder
Louder
@WhiteEdge, thanks brotha! Been very happy with this run so far. They should really cake up in the next week or so with the lower room temps🤞
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 16
The lemon berry and cherry Garcia turned out amazing bro. Unbelievable results with little signs of stress. I’m doing a full Sundea Driver run next and I hope the buds turn out this good
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha! Can't wait to see your room full of SD!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 16
Been a minute since I’ve jumped on GD. These turned out amazing my friend!!!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha. Your tips definitely saved the day. Almost ready to trim up!
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 14
Showing out.. look so damn good
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, thanks homie. Just a few weeks to go!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 13
I love how green the stem is with no signs of purpling whatsoever
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, don't think I've ever had a run without purple stems! Upward!!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 6
This is one of the most detailed diaries I’ve ever seen. Bro I’m officially jealous!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Appreciate it brother haha! It makes it easier to spot problems, or things I did wrong/right because I literally document everything. Only been growing about 2 years and still trying to learn as much as possible. This is definitely the most notes I've taken to date
Nicogreen
Nicogreenweek 11
Prøv at bruge HORNUM GØDNING ELLER PLAGRON BROR det fuldstændigt sindsygt godt. Jeg har lige selv haft brugt advance nutriens. Så ved du vil blive meget glad for mit råd. G Flotte planter glæder mig til at du sender mig lidt haha griner 😊 😉 👍🏼 ❤️ MVH Nicogreen on growdiaries.com/ please tjek it out 👌
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 8
Hey buddy how’s you get rid of the gnats??? I think I missed it if you already gave an explanation I apologize…but would still like to know!
Qutro
Qutroweek 16
Congrats on the chop. Those nugs turned out beautiful and looking delicious. Hope you enjoy the puff. ✌️🏻💨
Louder
Louder
@Qutro, Thank you. Pretty happy with the outcome. Should be a nice fall
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 13
Caked my friend
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, I predict snow, Al Roker