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a year ago
VEGETATION WEEK 4/5 (Aug 1-7) ---------------------------------------------------- Aug 1 AM (2L) *MC In: 470 PPM/5.9 pH Out: 650 PPM/ 6.1 pH (21c) (+180 PPM) ❌ *ELB2 In: 470 PPM/5.9 pH Out: 536 PPM/ 6.1 pH (21c) (+66 PPM) ❌ *CG In: 470 PPM/5.9 pH Out: 524 PPM/6.2 pH (21c) (+54 PPM) ❌ Jesus Christ...now I think I need to flush. These ones in 3 gallon bags haven't given me a negative PPM runoff in two weeks and it's really starting to piss me off. EAT SOMETHING!! I built an evaporative cooler to drop temps and boost humidity. It gets packed with frozen water bottles and sits in the lung closet during lights on. The fan on top pulls air in, the ice cools it and it's forced out the 2" elbows. We'll see if it does anything. Aug 3 The leaf cupping is improving. Hard to pinpoint what's helping though. I've boosted the lights on humidity to 55-58% and keeping temps below 27c. Watering tonight. PM: 3L each "KC1 In: 607 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 716 PPM/5.9 pH (20c) (+119 PPM) ❌ "KC2 In: 607 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 715 PPM/5.9 pH (20c) (+118 PPM) ❌ "GS In: 607 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 732 PPM/6.0 pH (20c) (+135 PPM) ❌ "ELB In: 607 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 775 PPM/6.0 pH (20c) (+168 PPM) ❌ • 715 ppm = 1.4 EC out • 3L produced 600-700ml runoff (>20%) • Purple streaking on stalks/fan stems (Not GS) So the EC/PPM out is a bit high (just like me). There's a bit of clawing on the fan leaves indicating a nitrogen excess. I'm going to scale back the PPM to 550 and use mostly CalMag and the part B and cut part A in half. I don't really want to flush because the cupping leaves are improving and I think that has to do with the decreased watering frequency. A few fungus gnats have found the sticky traps but they're usually stragglers from the upstairs houseplants. If the runoff is crazy high next event I'll consider a flush with the final liter being a H202 water mixture to fry any eggs that might be in the substrate. 4:1 water/H202 ratio. Aug 6 PM (4L) "KC1 In: 515 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 615 PPM/6.1 pH (20c) (+100 PPM) "KC2 In: 515 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 627 PPM/6.1 pH (20c) (+112 PPM) "GS In: 515 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 733 PPM/6.0 pH (20c) (+218 PPM) "ELB In: 515 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 708 PPM/6.1 pH (21c) (+193 PPM) • 4L produced 1L runoff I'm getting conflicting information about runoff PPM/EC. Some sites say if you aren't getting a PPM lower than what you put in, you're plants aren't feeding and you're overfertilizing. Others say up to +300 PPM is ok and that EC SHOULD BE HIGHER OR THE SAME. I'm feeding at half strength of bottle directions. Some ppl say they use bottle directions PLUS 20%. I get that feeding is strain dependant but there's a huge discrepancy there. There's been more bug activity than usual this week. More and more flies are finding the sticky traps and I've seen a few fly up from the bottom of the pots when I lift them. Sometimes I see one on top of the coco while I'm watering. I can't tell if they're fungus gnats or root aphids though. Have to look closely with a loupe. If it's root aphids, this may have been the cause of the leaf cupping the whole time. I think it may be time for an H202 treatment. Aug 7 PM I mixed 1L H202 with 4L water and pH'd to 6.0. Each 5 gallon bag got 1L each, producing around 150-200ml of runoff. I'm leaving the runoff in the dish, maybe it will kill any that fall in. The Cherry did a lot fizzing so that was the one with the most larvae. I'll have to wait a few days to see how the plants react to the H202. Apparently it's good for root health because it adds oxygen to the root zone and helps with overwatering issues. Next watering will be a low EC mix of CalMag, Compost tea and Sensizym.
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommentedweek 02 years ago
Sweet line up. I’m in for the long run
Louder
Loudercommented2 years ago
@Ezzjaybruh, Thanks homie! Hoping to get a few keepers out of these cuts 🤞
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardencommentedweek 0a year ago
Love the genetics you are growing, looking forward to see how they grow Good luck with the germination ser 🙏🙌
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommentedweek 4a year ago
Hate to say it but maybe the one cupping contracted a virus when cut for the clone/rooting.. hard to know for sure without testing tho
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Ezzjaybruh, Always appreciate the input dude. Looking closer into my VPD...my humidity might be low for the day temps too. And I've been lowering it on purpose lol FK me
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommenteda year ago
@Louder, could very well be.. you’re experienced and know different plants do different stuff. Just wanted to comment that, in case you hadn’t thought of it! Love ethos tho, excited to see how they turn out
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Ezzjaybruh, it's pretty strange for sure. I had some cupping after topping during my last run, but that was just the two main fans, not new growth. These cuts DID come from a friend but I took every measure to make sure they were clean. The mothers looked super healthy too. Looking at my daily watering schedule for the last few weeks (in notes), I was dumping a lot into them and the PPM wasn't very high either. My gut is telling me it's overwatering combined with pH spikes and underfertilizing. For now I'm just backing off the watering, increasing the PPM and monitoring the runoff to see where the pH is going.
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XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreencommentedweek 3a year ago
Beautiful garden growmie👨‍🌾😃🌲💚
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@XII_XII_MrGreen, I'm pretty sure that's part of it. I already raised the lamps to about 40" from the canopy and that's giving me a really dumb, low DLI. I lowered the humidity (50-60%), raised night time temperatures to 22-23 from 20-21c...I turned down the fans ...stopped watering for a few days. It could honestly be a number of things. I've been overwatering...possibly underfertilizing...idk man lol
XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreencommenteda year ago
@Louder, that means the light is to bright for this lady.. I got one in my tent now too (sapphire), if more plants in the tent would show those signs I would turn it down.. since it's only 1 I say fk it 😜
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@XII_XII_MrGreen, thanks, working at it my dude. Trying to sort out this leaf cupping.
XII_XII_EarlyRaver
XII_XII_EarlyRavercommentedweek 9a year ago
Wauw bro this is legit shit haha wauw you're a sirious grower my friend 💪🏻👌🏻🔥 so now I look like a amature lol hahahah really lovely grow sir 👌🏻👌🏻 I'm following this for sure bro keep up the good work 👌🏻💪🏻
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@XII_XII_EarlyRaver, Thanks homie! Big effort on this run. MAXIMUM effort. Your grows look far from amateur my dude, been watching em for a minute 👍
Crashoverite
Crashoveritecommentedweek 9a year ago
Good luck with your grow mate ✌️
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardencommentedweek 7a year ago
Nice Line-up, good luck with the rest of the grow ser 🙏🙌
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Wishar_Garden, big thanks 🍻
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommentedweek 3a year ago
Happy growing this Ethos cultivar, hope for great harvest!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@WhiteEdge, cheers fella! 🍻
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420commentedweek 16a year ago
Wow what a diary! Great job mate. Just took me half hour to read and I must say the work and effort you have put into this is amazing. Great looking plants 🌱 ✌️👊🏻😍
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420commenteda year ago
@Louder, I’m on the hunt bro. Thanks for the advise 👊🏻✌️ keep smashing it brother
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Green_Man_420, Thanks dude, I was determined to smash this run after having a brutal yield last winter. This one still wasn't perfect but I'm pretty chuffed about it. Can't complain. Ethos is blowing up right now. One of the top breeders imo. Haven't been disappointed with any of their gear. There's seed banks in North America that will ship worldwide. Brotanical Gardens might be worth a shot. I've personally never used them so I can't speak on the reliability but I've never had an issue with any seed bank I've ordered from. Happy hunting!
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420commenteda year ago
@Louder, honestly mate it’s a cracking diary! A lot of time and effort has gone into it. Great job ✌️ I really wanna try Ethos but not sure where to get them in the U.K.
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FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 7a year ago
Hey how much space do you have to work? What are your room dimensions? It looks custom!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommenteda year ago
@Louder, hell yeah bro you got some space to make shit happen 😎
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Yeah! I built this area off a spare bedroom in my basement. It's all built around the 8" exhaust that runs straight through a concealed chase I made through the master bedroom closet and vented through the roof. I framed out the walls for 3 1/2" batts, insulated with R22 safe and sound and boarded it with mold resistant drywall. Ceiling is strapped out to hide some of the cables and the hygrometer probe (kinda wish I just kept the height). I installed insulated drycore squares for the floor and put flat white primer on everything. All the corners are caulked with silicone and that bitch is air tight. The poly zipper door in front of the access door pulls right in when the extractor kicks on and puffs out when the intake goes on. It measures 4' 6" W x 9' 6" L (+ door swing) x 6' 6" H. Not much headroom in there
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommentedweek 13a year ago
Wow this ETHOS clones are insanely frosty. Great work on this man!
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommenteda year ago
@Louder, No daubt in that!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@WhiteEdge, thanks brotha! Been very happy with this run so far. They should really cake up in the next week or so with the lower room temps🤞
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 16a year ago
The lemon berry and cherry Garcia turned out amazing bro. Unbelievable results with little signs of stress. I’m doing a full Sundea Driver run next and I hope the buds turn out this good
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha! Can't wait to see your room full of SD!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 16a year ago
Been a minute since I’ve jumped on GD. These turned out amazing my friend!!!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha. Your tips definitely saved the day. Almost ready to trim up!
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommentedweek 14a year ago
Showing out.. look so damn good
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Ezzjaybruh, thanks homie. Just a few weeks to go!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 13a year ago
I love how green the stem is with no signs of purpling whatsoever
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, don't think I've ever had a run without purple stems! Upward!!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 6a year ago
This is one of the most detailed diaries I’ve ever seen. Bro I’m officially jealous!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Appreciate it brother haha! It makes it easier to spot problems, or things I did wrong/right because I literally document everything. Only been growing about 2 years and still trying to learn as much as possible. This is definitely the most notes I've taken to date
Nicogreen
Nicogreencommentedweek 11a year ago
Prøv at bruge HORNUM GØDNING ELLER PLAGRON BROR det fuldstændigt sindsygt godt. Jeg har lige selv haft brugt advance nutriens. Så ved du vil blive meget glad for mit råd. G Flotte planter glæder mig til at du sender mig lidt haha griner 😊 😉 👍🏼 ❤️ MVH Nicogreen on growdiaries.com/ please tjek it out 👌
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 8a year ago
Hey buddy how’s you get rid of the gnats??? I think I missed it if you already gave an explanation I apologize…but would still like to know!
Qutro
Qutrocommentedweek 16a year ago
Congrats on the chop. Those nugs turned out beautiful and looking delicious. Hope you enjoy the puff. ✌️🏻💨
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Qutro, Thank you. Pretty happy with the outcome. Should be a nice fall
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 13a year ago
Caked my friend
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, I predict snow, Al Roker