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LEGEND: 🌡️- Temp High ❄️ - Temp Low 🌧️ - Humidity High ☁️ - Humidity Low 📈 - VPD High 📉 - VPD Low I have to start the week by giving a BIG shout to @FrontRowAG_BrianG If you aren't following this man, I highly suggest you do so. Wealth of knowledge and some eye popping, jaw dropping diaries. WATCH THE VIDEOS! I put mosquito dunks (lil bits) in my standing water buckets just as a safeguard against any eggs or larvae. Picked up a bottle of AN's B-52 and added that into to the feed schedule. I turned off one of the lamps in favor of all 6 under one lamp at full power. Really no point in wasting the hydro and spacing them out this early. Going to continue with the simulated sunrise/sunset by turning the lamp down to 60% two hours before lights off, and back up to 100% two hours after lights on. End of Week Goals: 1- Raise EC from 1.3 to 1.7 ✅ 2- Maintain plant canopy height (LST)✅ 3- See an improvement/elimination of gnats✅ 4- 2nd topping 5- Removing all the lower-inside growth tips ✅ 6- Raise temps ✅ I want to have everything in order to ensure a smooth transition to bloom next week. Aug 15 No watering. I've increased the lights on temperature to 28c/78F and the humidity still sits between 55-65%. I had a thought about the leaf curl I was having and after all the troubleshooting, it may have actually been TOO COLD! Waiting to see what a few days of warmer temperatures does for them. My lights OFF temperature was also too low for the amount of humidity in the room. I was probably in danger of WPM if I didn't make the changes so now lights off temps are around 23-24c. Also keeps VPD in range. Starting to feel better about this run. Watering tonight if I don't get too drunk on the golf course today. 🌡️: 27.5c ✅ ❄️: 23.4c✅ 🌧️: 62.1%✅ ☁️: 57.8%✅ 📈: 1.3 (Slightly high last few hrs of lights on) 📉: 0.95 ✅ Aug 16 PM (2-3L @ 24c) "KC1 In: 1.5 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.4 EC/5.9 pH (22c) (-0.1 EC)✅ "KC2 In: 1.5 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (22c) (-0.4 EC)✅ "GS In: 1.5 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.5 EC/5.9 pH (22c) (--EC--)✅ "ELB In: 1.5 EC/5.9 pH (3L) Out: 1.5 EC/6.0 pH (22c) (--EC--)✅ *MC In: 1.5 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.2 EC/6.0 pH (22c) (-0.3 EC)✅ *CG In: 1.5 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (23c) (-0.5 EC)✅ 🌡️: 27.7c✅ ❄️: 23.4c✅ 🌧️: 65.4%✅ ☁️: 58.6%✅ 📈: 1.27 (Slightly high last few hrs of lights on) 📉: 0.99 ✅ Hungry girls for the most part. Will do another fertigation or two at 1.5 EC and move up to 1.7 end of week. As much as I want to flip to bloom next week, I'm thinking another week of veg will get them a bit beefier. Aug 17 (1L @ 5.8 pH / 24c) Mix: 8ml A, 8ml B: 4L water = 1.8 EC (+2L water = 1.5 EC) No runoff on this event. Not entirely shocking as I boosted temps the last few days. VPD is actually really good for most of the day, with the exception of about 4 hours at the end of the light period. Temperatures stay in the high 70's/low 80's but humidity will drop from low-mid 60's to mid-high 50's (just outside of the ideal range). This concept is relatively new to me so I'm not going to do TOO much to correct that. With my day temperatures around 80F I need humidity at 60% minimum and I'm in the 57/62% range. So close. I may just lower day time temperatures a hair and that may do it. Lights off VPD is pretty much bang on now that I've boosted temps to 74F. 🌡️: 26.7c✅ ❄️: 22.6⬆️ 🌧️: 68.1% ✅ ☁️: 56.2% ⬆️ 📈: 1.22 ⬇️ 📉: 0.9 ✅ Aug 18 PM (1/2-1L @ 24c) Mix: 8ml A, 8ml B: 4L water = 1.8 EC (+2L water = 1.5 EC) • No runoff 🌡️: 27.5c✅ ❄️: 23.6c ✅ 🌧️: 64.8% ✅ ☁️: 55.3%⬆️ 📈: 1.17 ✅ 📉: 1.1 ✅ Another fertigation without runoff. Although KC/GS had a very small amount in the catch dish. Wondering if I should let it dry out for a day. Getting some low humidity towards the end of the light cycle and that raises the VPD for the last 4 hours or so. I'm going to set multiple starts and stops on the exhaust fan timer to allow humidity to build/drop when needed. Aug 19 • No water 🌡️: 27.9c🆗 ❄️: 23.3c⬆️ 🌧️: 62.7%🆗 ☁️: 56.5% 🆗 📈: 1.32⬇️ 📉: 1.17✅ Had a busy day and didn't get into the room. Humidity is still a little low for the light period and a bit high for the dark period. The dehumidifier spikes the temps up near 26 so running the intake with it should keep it down. Big water tonight and runoff test. See how they handle two days of light watering and a full day off. Aug 20 PM (3L @ 23c) Mix: 16ml CaMg, 16ml A, 16ml B, 12ml B52 : 8L water = 2.1 EC) "KC1 In: 1.7 EC/5.7 pH Out: 1.6 EC/6.5 pH (24c) (-0.1 EC) ✅ "KC2 In: 1.7 EC/5.7 pH Out: 1.6 EC/6.5 pH (22c) (-0.1 EC) ✅ "GS In: 1.7 EC/5.7 pH Out: 1.9 EC/6.0 pH (23c) (+0.2 EC)✅ "ELB In: 1.7 EC/5.7 pH Out: 1.9 EC/5.8 pH (24c) (+0.2 EC)✅ *MC In: 1.7 EC/5.7 pH (2.25L) Out: 2.1 EC/6.1 pH (24c) (+0.4 EC)🆗 *CG In: 1.7 EC/5.7 pH (2.25 L) ✅ Out: 1.9 EC/6.2 pH (23c) (+0.2 EC) • Run another 1L through all @ 1.7 EC / 5.5 pH) • Only a few flies, no new on traps Event 2 (1L) "KC1 In: 1.7 EC/5.5 pH Out: 1.5 EC/6.1 pH (24c) (-0.2 EC) ✅ "KC2 In: 1.7 EC/5.5 pH Out: 1.4 EC/6.2 pH (23c) (-0.3 EC) ✅ "GS In: 1.7 EC/5.5 pH (2L) Out: 1.7 EC/6.0 pH (23c) (--EC--) ✅ "ELB In: 1.7 EC/5.5 pH (2L) Out: 1.9 EC/6.0 pH (23c) (+0.2 EC) ✅ *MC In: 1.7 EC/5.5 pH Out: 1.8 EC/6.2 pH (23c) (+0.1 EC) ✅ *CG In: 1.7 EC/5.5 pH Out: 1.8 EC/6.2 pH (23c) (+0.1 EC) ✅ 🌡️: 27.9c ✅ ❄️: 23.8c ✅ 🌧️: 65% ✅ ☁️: 60.6% ✅ 📈: 1.1-1.3 🆗⬇️ 📉: 0.9✅ We're doing alright after three days of relatively no water. First runoffs out of the bags were about 2.2-2.4 EC. After draining out, the numbers were a lot closer to base. I decided to run another liter through them to try to drop the pH a bit. Runoff pH is high across the board but I'm not sure how much I should care about that. A lot websites say the runoff pH doesn't matter because you're replacing it with a new pH'd solution. I feel like it matters though. Chime in if you know how concerned I should be with runoff pH rising, even though I'm dropping the solution pH. Curious. I took another cutting from the GS and two from CG. I've got 2 cuts (KC/ELB) already showing roots so I'll be buffering more coco at some point this week. Aug 21 PM (1/2-1L @ 1.8 EC/5.6 pH/22c) Mix: 12ml A, 12ml B, 7ml Tea: 6L water = 1.8 EC • New mix added to approx 2L of last one • Little to no runoff from 1L • Spaced out plants and turned on 2nd lamp 🌡️: 27.9c✅ ❄️: 22.1 c ⬆️❌ 🌧️: 65%✅ (until midnight) ☁️: 50.6%⬆️❌ 📈: 1.43⬇️ (Humidity dropped from probe on lamp) 📉: 0.81-1.02 ✅ (23-24c / 60-65%) • Probe dropped near a lamp and "boosted" the temp • Actually dropped humidity by triggering fans • Low humidity all night (50-55%) Last day of VEG. Bad luck with my temperature probe... it dropped from it's hook and landed on the top of a lamp, causing the hot sensor to activate the fans. Humidity dropped all night. We've raised the EC to 1.8, with the substrate reaching as high as 2.4 with no signs of nute burn. I'm honestly not believing what I'm seeing. This EC is scary to me because this is usually where I'd be at peak bloom. So I've been underfertilizing and not paying attention to VPD as much as I should. Hammer time.
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 0
Sweet line up. I’m in for the long run
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, Thanks homie! Hoping to get a few keepers out of these cuts 🤞
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardenweek 0
Love the genetics you are growing, looking forward to see how they grow Good luck with the germination ser 🙏🙌
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 4
Hate to say it but maybe the one cupping contracted a virus when cut for the clone/rooting.. hard to know for sure without testing tho
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, Always appreciate the input dude. Looking closer into my VPD...my humidity might be low for the day temps too. And I've been lowering it on purpose lol FK me
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruh
@Louder, could very well be.. you’re experienced and know different plants do different stuff. Just wanted to comment that, in case you hadn’t thought of it! Love ethos tho, excited to see how they turn out
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, it's pretty strange for sure. I had some cupping after topping during my last run, but that was just the two main fans, not new growth. These cuts DID come from a friend but I took every measure to make sure they were clean. The mothers looked super healthy too. Looking at my daily watering schedule for the last few weeks (in notes), I was dumping a lot into them and the PPM wasn't very high either. My gut is telling me it's overwatering combined with pH spikes and underfertilizing. For now I'm just backing off the watering, increasing the PPM and monitoring the runoff to see where the pH is going.
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XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreenweek 3
Beautiful garden growmie👨‍🌾😃🌲💚
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_MrGreen, I'm pretty sure that's part of it. I already raised the lamps to about 40" from the canopy and that's giving me a really dumb, low DLI. I lowered the humidity (50-60%), raised night time temperatures to 22-23 from 20-21c...I turned down the fans ...stopped watering for a few days. It could honestly be a number of things. I've been overwatering...possibly underfertilizing...idk man lol
XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreen
@Louder, that means the light is to bright for this lady.. I got one in my tent now too (sapphire), if more plants in the tent would show those signs I would turn it down.. since it's only 1 I say fk it 😜
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_MrGreen, thanks, working at it my dude. Trying to sort out this leaf cupping.
XII_XII_JrGreen
XII_XII_JrGreenweek 9
Wauw bro this is legit shit haha wauw you're a sirious grower my friend 💪🏻👌🏻🔥 so now I look like a amature lol hahahah really lovely grow sir 👌🏻👌🏻 I'm following this for sure bro keep up the good work 👌🏻💪🏻
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_JrGreen, Thanks homie! Big effort on this run. MAXIMUM effort. Your grows look far from amateur my dude, been watching em for a minute 👍
Crashoverite
Crashoveriteweek 9
Good luck with your grow mate ✌️
Louder
Louder
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardenweek 7
Nice Line-up, good luck with the rest of the grow ser 🙏🙌
Louder
Louder
@Wishar_Garden, big thanks 🍻
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 3
Happy growing this Ethos cultivar, hope for great harvest!
Louder
Louder
@WhiteEdge, cheers fella! 🍻
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420week 16
Wow what a diary! Great job mate. Just took me half hour to read and I must say the work and effort you have put into this is amazing. Great looking plants 🌱 ✌️👊🏻😍
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420
@Louder, I’m on the hunt bro. Thanks for the advise 👊🏻✌️ keep smashing it brother
Louder
Louder
@Green_Man_420, Thanks dude, I was determined to smash this run after having a brutal yield last winter. This one still wasn't perfect but I'm pretty chuffed about it. Can't complain. Ethos is blowing up right now. One of the top breeders imo. Haven't been disappointed with any of their gear. There's seed banks in North America that will ship worldwide. Brotanical Gardens might be worth a shot. I've personally never used them so I can't speak on the reliability but I've never had an issue with any seed bank I've ordered from. Happy hunting!
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420
@Louder, honestly mate it’s a cracking diary! A lot of time and effort has gone into it. Great job ✌️ I really wanna try Ethos but not sure where to get them in the U.K.
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FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 7
Hey how much space do you have to work? What are your room dimensions? It looks custom!
Louder
Louder
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianG
@Louder, hell yeah bro you got some space to make shit happen 😎
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Yeah! I built this area off a spare bedroom in my basement. It's all built around the 8" exhaust that runs straight through a concealed chase I made through the master bedroom closet and vented through the roof. I framed out the walls for 3 1/2" batts, insulated with R22 safe and sound and boarded it with mold resistant drywall. Ceiling is strapped out to hide some of the cables and the hygrometer probe (kinda wish I just kept the height). I installed insulated drycore squares for the floor and put flat white primer on everything. All the corners are caulked with silicone and that bitch is air tight. The poly zipper door in front of the access door pulls right in when the extractor kicks on and puffs out when the intake goes on. It measures 4' 6" W x 9' 6" L (+ door swing) x 6' 6" H. Not much headroom in there
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 13
Wow this ETHOS clones are insanely frosty. Great work on this man!
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdge
@Louder, No daubt in that!
Louder
Louder
@WhiteEdge, thanks brotha! Been very happy with this run so far. They should really cake up in the next week or so with the lower room temps🤞
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 16
The lemon berry and cherry Garcia turned out amazing bro. Unbelievable results with little signs of stress. I’m doing a full Sundea Driver run next and I hope the buds turn out this good
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha! Can't wait to see your room full of SD!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 16
Been a minute since I’ve jumped on GD. These turned out amazing my friend!!!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha. Your tips definitely saved the day. Almost ready to trim up!
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 14
Showing out.. look so damn good
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, thanks homie. Just a few weeks to go!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 13
I love how green the stem is with no signs of purpling whatsoever
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, don't think I've ever had a run without purple stems! Upward!!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 6
This is one of the most detailed diaries I’ve ever seen. Bro I’m officially jealous!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Appreciate it brother haha! It makes it easier to spot problems, or things I did wrong/right because I literally document everything. Only been growing about 2 years and still trying to learn as much as possible. This is definitely the most notes I've taken to date
Nicogreen
Nicogreenweek 11
Prøv at bruge HORNUM GØDNING ELLER PLAGRON BROR det fuldstændigt sindsygt godt. Jeg har lige selv haft brugt advance nutriens. Så ved du vil blive meget glad for mit råd. G Flotte planter glæder mig til at du sender mig lidt haha griner 😊 😉 👍🏼 ❤️ MVH Nicogreen on growdiaries.com/ please tjek it out 👌
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 8
Hey buddy how’s you get rid of the gnats??? I think I missed it if you already gave an explanation I apologize…but would still like to know!
Qutro
Qutroweek 16
Congrats on the chop. Those nugs turned out beautiful and looking delicious. Hope you enjoy the puff. ✌️🏻💨
Louder
Louder
@Qutro, Thank you. Pretty happy with the outcome. Should be a nice fall
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 13
Caked my friend
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, I predict snow, Al Roker