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Louder Louder
a year ago
Week 2 (Jul 11-17) ----------------------------- Flushed the un-mixed and pre-mixed coco as close to 400 PPM/5.8 pH as I could before transplanting...it's definitely on the higher side of both. Myco was mixed in, about half a tsp. I added the shredded coco to the top layer to keep moisture in longer and to allow the roots to use the upper parts of the bag. The other cut is ready to for transplant. These Kush Cakes are beasting. All the other clones are in week 1 and almost ready for transplanting. Just trying to keep the substrate saturated and the PPM and pH in range this week. KC1 is fairly unpredictable with the runoff values, alternating drops and rises in PPM. It could still be dealing with the high PPM of the coco that was sitting around until transplant. Hopefully she levels out and starts producing similar numbers to the KC2. Environment is nice and stable at 21-25c and 55-65% humidity. DLI is between 8-10 based on the 18hr schedule. MH lamp is set at 50% and hovers 20" from the plants. Noticing some slight cupping on the upper leaves so I may end up raising the lamp a few inches. Feeding log: Jul 11 AM (0.25L) KC1 In: 367 PPM/5.7 pH Out: 339 PPM/6.0 pH (22c) (-28 PPM)✅ GS1 In: 367 PPM/5.7pH Out: 370 PPM/5.9 pH (22c) (-3 PPM)✅ GS2 In: 367 PPM/5.7 pH Out: 389 PPM/6.0 pH (22c) (+22 PPM)❌ MC In: 367 PPM/5.7 pH* Out: 371 PPM/6.0 pH (21c) (+4 PPM)❌ ELB In: 367 PPM/5.7 ph* Out: 371 PPM/6.0 pH* (22c) (+4 PPM)❌ ELB2 In: 367 PPM/5.7 pH* Out: 369 PPM/5.9 pH* (21c) (+2 PPM)❌ CG In: 367 PPM/5.7 pH Out: 366 PPM/6.0 pH* (22c) (-1 PPM)✅ Jul 11 PM (New container flush) KC1 In: 439 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 496 PPM*/6.0 pH (21c) (+57 PPM) * May level out Jul 12 AM GS In: 370 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 375 PPM/5.8 pH (22c) (+5 PPM) ❌⬇️ MC In: 370 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 366 PPM/5.8 pH (21c) (-4 PPM)✅➡️ ELB In: 370 PPM/5.8 ph Out: 326 PPM/5.7 pH (22c) (-44 PPM)✅➡️ ELB2 In: 370 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 368 PPM/5.7 pH (21c) (-2 PPM)✅➡️ CG In: 370 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 388 PPM/5.8 pH (21c) (+18 PPM)❌⬇️ Jul 12 PM (3-5L) KC1 In: 480 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 444 PPM/5.7 pH (21c) (-36 PPM)➡️✅ KC2 In: 480 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 443 PPM/5.6/7 pH (19/20c) (-37 PPM)➡️✅ * Needed a pretty good soak after not watering for a while Jul 13 AM (2L) KC1 In: 475 PPM/5.9 pH Out: 525 PPM/6.0 pH (20c) (+50 PPM) ?❌ KC2 In: 475 PPM/5.9 pH Out: 465 PPM/5.7 pH (20c) (-10 PPM)✅ MC In: 375 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 341 PPM/5.8 pH (c) (-34 PPM)✅➡️ ELB In: 375 PPM/5.8 ph Out: 321 PPM/5.8 pH (22c) (-54 PPM)✅➡️ ELB2 In: 375 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 358 PPM/5.6 pH (22c) (-17 PPM)✅➡️ CG In: 375 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 364 PPM/5.8 pH (22c) (-11 PPM)✅➡️ GS In: 375 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 355 PPM/5.9 pH (22c) (-20 PPM)✅➡️ * Falling pH KC2/ELB2 (-0.2) Jul 14 AM * Only watered 5 gallon containers KC1 In: 404 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 540 PPM/6.0 pH (22c) (+136 PPM)❌ KC2 In: 404 PPM/5.8 pH Out: 464 PPM/5.6 pH (21c) (+60 PPM)❌ MC In: -- PPM/6.0 pH Out: -- PPM/ pH (c) (- PPM) ELB In: 399 PPM/5.8 ph (AM) Out: 389 PPM/5.8 pH (22c) (-10 PPM) ✅ ELB2 In: -- PPM/6.0 pH Out: -- PPM/ pH (c) (PPM) CG In: -- PPM/6.0 pH Out: -- PPM/ pH (c) (-PPM) GS In: 399 PPM/5.8 pH (New container soak) Out: 412 PPM/6.0 pH (22c) ➡️ (soak again PM) • KC1 pH is rising and not feeding, some clawing • KC2 pH is dropping and not feeding, slight clawing The clawing on the KCs might be the beginning of a nitrogen toxicity, locking out the CaMg I've been feeding. May explain the rising PPM values. The dropping pH is a bit of a concern, and generally means overfeeding in my experience. I may have buffered a little strong as things were good until transplanting into the larger containers. Furthermore , if the high PPM is an excess of CaMg, my pH at 5.6 is out of range for uptake. As much as I hate flushing this early, it might be the best time to do it because the coco is totally saturated so it takes next to nothing to get a runoff. I'll try to flush EVERYTHING with a solution @ 375-400 PPM @ 6.0 pH. From there I can get a better idea of who needs what. This going to be a pain in the ass 😂 July 15 AM KC1 In: 418 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 436 PPM/5.8 pH (21c) (+18 PPM) ❌ KC2 In: 418 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 410 PPM/5.6 pH (20c) (-8 PPM)✅ MC In: 367 PPM/5.9 pH Out: 348 PPM/5.9 pH (22c) (-19 PPM)✅ ELB In: 418 PPM/6.0 ph Out: 409 PPM/5.9 pH (21c) (-9 PPM) ✅ ELB2 In: 367 PPM/5.9 pH Out: 348 PPM/5.8 pH (22c) (-19 PPM) ✅ CG In: 367 PPM/5.9 pH Out: 358 PPM/5.9 pH (22c) (-9 PPM) ✅ GS In: 418 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 422 PPM/6.0 pH (20c) (+4 PPM) ❌ Jul 16 AM KC1 In: 416 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 420 PPM/5.8 pH (21c) (+4 PPM)❌ KC2 In: 416 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 409 PPM/5.7 pH (20c) (-7 PPM)✅ MC In: 361 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 338 PPM/5.9 pH (23c) (-23 PPM)✅ ELB In: 408 PPM/6.0 ph Out: 392 PPM/5.8 pH (22c) (-16 PPM)✅ ELB2 In: 361 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 328 PPM/5.8 pH (23c) (-33 PPM)✅ CG In: 361 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 353 PPM/5.8 pH (23c) (-8 PPM)✅ GS In: 408 PPM/6.0 pH Out: 411 PPM/5.9 pH (21c) (+3 PPM)❌ Inching closer and closer everyday. I've flushed down all the 5 gallon containers with some feeding and others very close to being even with the inflow. A few more watering events should do the trick. I'll lower PPM to 375 next and keep the pH at 6.0. Transplanted MCxGC and ELB2 to 3 gallon bags. Pretty much out of coco so I may reuse a little from last time to fill the last bag. Still need to soak it in Sensizym to deal with the leftover root matter the screen didn't catch. Just the lone Cherry cut left in the solo cup. It's not showing roots out of the bottom yet anyway as it was the last to start rooting. Jul 17 Watered everything, logged everything and my two notes literally dropped out of my phone. Really glad I've kept this record on grow diaries because I lost ALL my notes on PPM.
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 0
Sweet line up. I’m in for the long run
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, Thanks homie! Hoping to get a few keepers out of these cuts 🤞
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardenweek 0
Love the genetics you are growing, looking forward to see how they grow Good luck with the germination ser 🙏🙌
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 4
Hate to say it but maybe the one cupping contracted a virus when cut for the clone/rooting.. hard to know for sure without testing tho
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, Always appreciate the input dude. Looking closer into my VPD...my humidity might be low for the day temps too. And I've been lowering it on purpose lol FK me
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruh
@Louder, could very well be.. you’re experienced and know different plants do different stuff. Just wanted to comment that, in case you hadn’t thought of it! Love ethos tho, excited to see how they turn out
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, it's pretty strange for sure. I had some cupping after topping during my last run, but that was just the two main fans, not new growth. These cuts DID come from a friend but I took every measure to make sure they were clean. The mothers looked super healthy too. Looking at my daily watering schedule for the last few weeks (in notes), I was dumping a lot into them and the PPM wasn't very high either. My gut is telling me it's overwatering combined with pH spikes and underfertilizing. For now I'm just backing off the watering, increasing the PPM and monitoring the runoff to see where the pH is going.
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XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreenweek 3
Beautiful garden growmie👨‍🌾😃🌲💚
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_MrGreen, I'm pretty sure that's part of it. I already raised the lamps to about 40" from the canopy and that's giving me a really dumb, low DLI. I lowered the humidity (50-60%), raised night time temperatures to 22-23 from 20-21c...I turned down the fans ...stopped watering for a few days. It could honestly be a number of things. I've been overwatering...possibly underfertilizing...idk man lol
XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreen
@Louder, that means the light is to bright for this lady.. I got one in my tent now too (sapphire), if more plants in the tent would show those signs I would turn it down.. since it's only 1 I say fk it 😜
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_MrGreen, thanks, working at it my dude. Trying to sort out this leaf cupping.
XII_XII_EarlyRaver
XII_XII_EarlyRaverweek 9
Wauw bro this is legit shit haha wauw you're a sirious grower my friend 💪🏻👌🏻🔥 so now I look like a amature lol hahahah really lovely grow sir 👌🏻👌🏻 I'm following this for sure bro keep up the good work 👌🏻💪🏻
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_EarlyRaver, Thanks homie! Big effort on this run. MAXIMUM effort. Your grows look far from amateur my dude, been watching em for a minute 👍
Crashoverite
Crashoveriteweek 9
Good luck with your grow mate ✌️
Louder
Louder
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardenweek 7
Nice Line-up, good luck with the rest of the grow ser 🙏🙌
Louder
Louder
@Wishar_Garden, big thanks 🍻
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 3
Happy growing this Ethos cultivar, hope for great harvest!
Louder
Louder
@WhiteEdge, cheers fella! 🍻
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420week 16
Wow what a diary! Great job mate. Just took me half hour to read and I must say the work and effort you have put into this is amazing. Great looking plants 🌱 ✌️👊🏻😍
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420
@Louder, I’m on the hunt bro. Thanks for the advise 👊🏻✌️ keep smashing it brother
Louder
Louder
@Green_Man_420, Thanks dude, I was determined to smash this run after having a brutal yield last winter. This one still wasn't perfect but I'm pretty chuffed about it. Can't complain. Ethos is blowing up right now. One of the top breeders imo. Haven't been disappointed with any of their gear. There's seed banks in North America that will ship worldwide. Brotanical Gardens might be worth a shot. I've personally never used them so I can't speak on the reliability but I've never had an issue with any seed bank I've ordered from. Happy hunting!
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420
@Louder, honestly mate it’s a cracking diary! A lot of time and effort has gone into it. Great job ✌️ I really wanna try Ethos but not sure where to get them in the U.K.
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FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 7
Hey how much space do you have to work? What are your room dimensions? It looks custom!
Louder
Louder
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianG
@Louder, hell yeah bro you got some space to make shit happen 😎
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Yeah! I built this area off a spare bedroom in my basement. It's all built around the 8" exhaust that runs straight through a concealed chase I made through the master bedroom closet and vented through the roof. I framed out the walls for 3 1/2" batts, insulated with R22 safe and sound and boarded it with mold resistant drywall. Ceiling is strapped out to hide some of the cables and the hygrometer probe (kinda wish I just kept the height). I installed insulated drycore squares for the floor and put flat white primer on everything. All the corners are caulked with silicone and that bitch is air tight. The poly zipper door in front of the access door pulls right in when the extractor kicks on and puffs out when the intake goes on. It measures 4' 6" W x 9' 6" L (+ door swing) x 6' 6" H. Not much headroom in there
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 13
Wow this ETHOS clones are insanely frosty. Great work on this man!
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdge
@Louder, No daubt in that!
Louder
Louder
@WhiteEdge, thanks brotha! Been very happy with this run so far. They should really cake up in the next week or so with the lower room temps🤞
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 16
The lemon berry and cherry Garcia turned out amazing bro. Unbelievable results with little signs of stress. I’m doing a full Sundea Driver run next and I hope the buds turn out this good
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha! Can't wait to see your room full of SD!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 16
Been a minute since I’ve jumped on GD. These turned out amazing my friend!!!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha. Your tips definitely saved the day. Almost ready to trim up!
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 14
Showing out.. look so damn good
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, thanks homie. Just a few weeks to go!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 13
I love how green the stem is with no signs of purpling whatsoever
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, don't think I've ever had a run without purple stems! Upward!!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 6
This is one of the most detailed diaries I’ve ever seen. Bro I’m officially jealous!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Appreciate it brother haha! It makes it easier to spot problems, or things I did wrong/right because I literally document everything. Only been growing about 2 years and still trying to learn as much as possible. This is definitely the most notes I've taken to date
Nicogreen
Nicogreenweek 11
Prøv at bruge HORNUM GØDNING ELLER PLAGRON BROR det fuldstændigt sindsygt godt. Jeg har lige selv haft brugt advance nutriens. Så ved du vil blive meget glad for mit råd. G Flotte planter glæder mig til at du sender mig lidt haha griner 😊 😉 👍🏼 ❤️ MVH Nicogreen on growdiaries.com/ please tjek it out 👌
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 8
Hey buddy how’s you get rid of the gnats??? I think I missed it if you already gave an explanation I apologize…but would still like to know!
Qutro
Qutroweek 16
Congrats on the chop. Those nugs turned out beautiful and looking delicious. Hope you enjoy the puff. ✌️🏻💨
Louder
Louder
@Qutro, Thank you. Pretty happy with the outcome. Should be a nice fall
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 13
Caked my friend
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, I predict snow, Al Roker