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Louder Louder
9 months ago
VEGETATION WEEK 6 (Aug 8-14) --------------------------------------------------- Aug 8 All containers are on the light side but I'm going to wait until the top 2" are dry until I water next. Plus I want to see what, if any, pest activity surfaces. The new sticky traps I put out yesterday are clean, so that's good. Still not positive if I have fungus gnats or root aphids, but the treatment is the same so I'll do another H202 event near the end of the week. As long as I stay ahead of the incubation period (10-14 days) these assholes won't be a problem. Once I snuff out them out, there shouldn't be any reason not to start blooming. I took cuttings from KC/ELB/MC from the bottoms of the plants last night and into water. I'll cut from GS soon and CG when she starts bushing out. That bitch is keeping it close to the chest. Cuts took up to 22 days to show roots so that would leave plenty of time to veg them out and get a stagger going. This is the last week of veg before I go to 12/12 with the 5 gallon bags. All new growth looks good, no cupping. I'll have to move the CG and MC into another room until they catch up to the rest when I change the light schedule. Aug 9 AM Took 2 cuttings from GS this morning, the lowest two branches. I also clipped the fan leaves from branches with 5 nodes. One trap (KC2) had one fly on it, I found one on the floor and one on a wall. Comparing the two on Google it looks like a fungus gnat to me (long legs and mosquito type body). Easily the better of the two pests. Unless I have both. Going to wait and see how light the bags are tonight before watering again. May wait another day if I can. I don't want to fertilize yet because I don't want to feed any pests in the root zone. I also don't want to do two H202 waterings in a row... Aug 9 PM "KC1 In: 1.0 EC/5.8 pH (4L) Out: 1.2 EC/6.1 pH (20c) (+0.2 EC) "KC2 In: 1.0 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.2 EC/6.1 pH (20c) (+0.2 EC) "GS In: 1.0 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.2 EC/6.1 pH (21c) (+0.2 EC) "ELB In: 1.0 EC/5.8 pH (4L) Out: 1.3 EC/6.2 pH (19c) (+0.3 EC) Apparently these are on the high side of acceptable runoff values. Another watering will get it closer and bring the pH down. Aug 10 AM *MC In: 0.8 EC/5.7 pH Out: 0.7 EC/6.3 pH (21c) (-0.1 EC) *CG In: 0.8 EC/5.8 pH Out: 0.8 EC/6.3 pH (20c) (=EC=) • Need to lower pH from 6.3 to 5.8 Usually don't see a drop in EC from runoff so it APPEARS MC fed heavily this event. pH is all wack (+0.5) so that needs to come down to 5.8-6.0. I'm going back to daily watering to keep the EC in check. I'll start with 1L daily and see how much runoff I get. The cupping leaves had me thinking I was overwatering but now I don't think that's the case at all. Still finding random fungus gnats, but the traps are clean. End of the week I will apply another H202 treatment. Started a foliar feeding regiment using MgS04. 1/2 tsp per litre pH'd to 5.8. I'm spraying them right after lights off and an hour before lights on. Hoping this clears up the purple streaks on the stalks and leaf stems. Topped the Grandpa's Stash so that's all of them but the Cherry. It looks like it will stay compact so I'm leaving it alone. Aug 10 PM "KC1 In: 1.0 EC/5.8 pH (4L) Out: 1.1 EC/6.0 pH (21c) (+EC) "KC2 In: 1.0 EC/5.8 pH (1L) Out: 1.3 EC/pH (c) (+EC) not done "GS In: 1.0 EC/5.8 pH (1L) Out: 1.3 EC/pH (c) (+EC) not done "ELB In: 1.0 EC/5.8 pH (4L) Out: 1.1 EC/6.1 pH (20c) (+EC) • pH reader off calibration. Ended watering There's never a good time to have your ph reader go off. I watered all plants with 1L @ 1.0 EC/5.8 pH. 250-300ml runoff put out some rather disturbing numbers. Runoffs were between 1.3 and 1.7 with a pH north of 6.1. So that's not good. I had put an extra 3L into two of them and runoff EC was 1.1. pH still a touch high (+ 0.3) but acceptable. This is where I lost the pH ✅ on the reader. It's nice that Bluelab pens have that because otherwise, how tf would you know?? Just blindly calibrate a meter using up buffers? Whatever, anyway, that's when I stopped because I didn't have any ph buffers. I'll pick that up when the shop opens and finish that event at lights on. Some flies on the surface of the pots, buzzing around when I started watering. Not liking that. I topped all the pots with straight perlite...idk maybe it does something, maybe it doesn't...I have a bunch of it. Probably end up mixing it in to the previous top layer of pure coco. I used the same ratio as I did with 3 gallon containers so there probably isn't enough perlite in there to begin with. Again, maybe that's part of the leaf cupping issue (yeah it's still kinda there). I wanted to flip to bloom next week but it looks like I've got a bit of work to do before they're ready for that. Aug 11 PM • Calibrated pH meter *MC In: 0.8 EC/5.8 pH Out: 0.8 EC/5.9 pH (19c) (+EC) *CG In: 0.8 EC/5.8 pH Out: 0.8 EC/5.8 pH (19c) "KC2 In: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (19c) (+EC) "GS In: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH (3L) Out: 1.1 EC/5.7 pH (20c) (+EC) Yeah now we're back on it. pH meter was - 0.5 from base. Back to growing after a calibration. pH must've been off for a few days but after tomorrow everything should be ok. Low pH...wow. A ton of fkn around for no reason. Back to basics brother. Keep it simple DUDE. Aug 12 PM (1.5-2.5L) "KC1 In: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.2 EC/5.9 pH (19c) (+0.1 EC)🆗 "KC2 In: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH (19c) (--EC--)✅ "GS In: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.1 EC/5.7 pH (19c) (--EC--)✅ "ELB In: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.2 EC/5.8 pH (20c) (+0.1 EC)🆗 *MC In: 0.9 EC/5.8 pH Out: 0.9 EC/6.0 pH (19c) (--EC--)✅ 🌡️: 25.6c✅ ❄️: 21.9c✅ 🌧️: 65.5%✅ ☁️: 59.6%✅ • Back lamp to 100% (at lights ON) Aug 14 AM (3L @ 22c) Mix: 4ml CaMg, 4ml A, 4ml B : 6L = 1.1 EC "KC1 In: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (21c) (--EC--)✅ "KC2 In: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH (21c) (--EC--)✅ "GS In: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.1 EC/5.8 pH (22c) (--EC--)✅ "ELB In: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH Out: 1.2 EC/5.8 pH (21c) (+0.1 EC)🆗 *MC In: 0.9 EC/5.9 pH Out: 0.9 EC/6.1 pH (21c) (--EC--) 🆗 *CG In: 0.9 EC/5.9 pH Out: 0.9 EC/6.0 pH (21c) (--EC--) 🆗 Added High/Low Temp/Humidity to daily notes Added solution temperature IN to daily notes H202 treatment on KC1/2 and CG at lights ON After watering this morning, the two KC's both had flies come out of the perlite layer. I got a few of them with the sticky trap but they're still hanging around. Last day of the week so another dose of H202 is incoming. Runoffs look good after skipping a day so I may be able to get away with watering every other day. I've got the lights ON humidity close to 60% @ 25c and hasn't gone below 55%. Lights off starts around 55% and climbs to nearly 65% before the lights come on. So VPD is inching closer to ideal. Aug 14 PM (3/4L H202 {1:4} on KCs/CG) • Turned lamp up to 100% at 7 pm Mix: 6ml CaMg, 6ml A, 6ml B, 6ml B-52: 4.5L = 1.7 EC "KC1 In: 1.3 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.1 EC/6.0 pH (21c) (-0.2 EC)✅ "KC2 In: 1.3 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.1 EC/5.9 pH (21c) (-0.2 EC)✅ "GS In: 1.3 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.2 EC/5.8 pH (21c) (-0.1 EC)✅ "ELB In: 1.3 EC/5.8 pH Out: 1.3 EC/5.8 pH (21c) (--EC--)✅ *MC In: 1.0 EC/5.7 pH Out: 0.9 EC/6.2 pH (20c) (-0.1 EC)✅ *CG In: 1.0 EC/5.7 pH Out: 0.9 EC/6.2 pH (20c) (-0.1 EC)✅ 🌡️: 25c ✅ ❄️: 21.3c✅ 🌧️: 62.3%✅ ☁️: 56.2%✅ Stepped up the EC by 0.2, added B52 to the mix
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 0
Sweet line up. I’m in for the long run
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, Thanks homie! Hoping to get a few keepers out of these cuts 🤞
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardenweek 0
Love the genetics you are growing, looking forward to see how they grow Good luck with the germination ser 🙏🙌
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 4
Hate to say it but maybe the one cupping contracted a virus when cut for the clone/rooting.. hard to know for sure without testing tho
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, Always appreciate the input dude. Looking closer into my VPD...my humidity might be low for the day temps too. And I've been lowering it on purpose lol FK me
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruh
@Louder, could very well be.. you’re experienced and know different plants do different stuff. Just wanted to comment that, in case you hadn’t thought of it! Love ethos tho, excited to see how they turn out
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, it's pretty strange for sure. I had some cupping after topping during my last run, but that was just the two main fans, not new growth. These cuts DID come from a friend but I took every measure to make sure they were clean. The mothers looked super healthy too. Looking at my daily watering schedule for the last few weeks (in notes), I was dumping a lot into them and the PPM wasn't very high either. My gut is telling me it's overwatering combined with pH spikes and underfertilizing. For now I'm just backing off the watering, increasing the PPM and monitoring the runoff to see where the pH is going.
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XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreenweek 3
Beautiful garden growmie👨‍🌾😃🌲💚
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_MrGreen, I'm pretty sure that's part of it. I already raised the lamps to about 40" from the canopy and that's giving me a really dumb, low DLI. I lowered the humidity (50-60%), raised night time temperatures to 22-23 from 20-21c...I turned down the fans ...stopped watering for a few days. It could honestly be a number of things. I've been overwatering...possibly underfertilizing...idk man lol
XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreen
@Louder, that means the light is to bright for this lady.. I got one in my tent now too (sapphire), if more plants in the tent would show those signs I would turn it down.. since it's only 1 I say fk it 😜
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_MrGreen, thanks, working at it my dude. Trying to sort out this leaf cupping.
XII_XII_JrGreen
XII_XII_JrGreenweek 9
Wauw bro this is legit shit haha wauw you're a sirious grower my friend 💪🏻👌🏻🔥 so now I look like a amature lol hahahah really lovely grow sir 👌🏻👌🏻 I'm following this for sure bro keep up the good work 👌🏻💪🏻
Louder
Louder
@XII_XII_JrGreen, Thanks homie! Big effort on this run. MAXIMUM effort. Your grows look far from amateur my dude, been watching em for a minute 👍
Crashoverite
Crashoveriteweek 9
Good luck with your grow mate ✌️
Louder
Louder
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardenweek 7
Nice Line-up, good luck with the rest of the grow ser 🙏🙌
Louder
Louder
@Wishar_Garden, big thanks 🍻
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 3
Happy growing this Ethos cultivar, hope for great harvest!
Louder
Louder
@WhiteEdge, cheers fella! 🍻
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420week 16
Wow what a diary! Great job mate. Just took me half hour to read and I must say the work and effort you have put into this is amazing. Great looking plants 🌱 ✌️👊🏻😍
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420
@Louder, I’m on the hunt bro. Thanks for the advise 👊🏻✌️ keep smashing it brother
Louder
Louder
@Green_Man_420, Thanks dude, I was determined to smash this run after having a brutal yield last winter. This one still wasn't perfect but I'm pretty chuffed about it. Can't complain. Ethos is blowing up right now. One of the top breeders imo. Haven't been disappointed with any of their gear. There's seed banks in North America that will ship worldwide. Brotanical Gardens might be worth a shot. I've personally never used them so I can't speak on the reliability but I've never had an issue with any seed bank I've ordered from. Happy hunting!
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420
@Louder, honestly mate it’s a cracking diary! A lot of time and effort has gone into it. Great job ✌️ I really wanna try Ethos but not sure where to get them in the U.K.
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FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 7
Hey how much space do you have to work? What are your room dimensions? It looks custom!
Louder
Louder
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianG
@Louder, hell yeah bro you got some space to make shit happen 😎
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Yeah! I built this area off a spare bedroom in my basement. It's all built around the 8" exhaust that runs straight through a concealed chase I made through the master bedroom closet and vented through the roof. I framed out the walls for 3 1/2" batts, insulated with R22 safe and sound and boarded it with mold resistant drywall. Ceiling is strapped out to hide some of the cables and the hygrometer probe (kinda wish I just kept the height). I installed insulated drycore squares for the floor and put flat white primer on everything. All the corners are caulked with silicone and that bitch is air tight. The poly zipper door in front of the access door pulls right in when the extractor kicks on and puffs out when the intake goes on. It measures 4' 6" W x 9' 6" L (+ door swing) x 6' 6" H. Not much headroom in there
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgeweek 13
Wow this ETHOS clones are insanely frosty. Great work on this man!
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdge
@Louder, No daubt in that!
Louder
Louder
@WhiteEdge, thanks brotha! Been very happy with this run so far. They should really cake up in the next week or so with the lower room temps🤞
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 16
The lemon berry and cherry Garcia turned out amazing bro. Unbelievable results with little signs of stress. I’m doing a full Sundea Driver run next and I hope the buds turn out this good
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha! Can't wait to see your room full of SD!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 16
Been a minute since I’ve jumped on GD. These turned out amazing my friend!!!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha. Your tips definitely saved the day. Almost ready to trim up!
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 14
Showing out.. look so damn good
Louder
Louder
@Ezzjaybruh, thanks homie. Just a few weeks to go!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 13
I love how green the stem is with no signs of purpling whatsoever
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, don't think I've ever had a run without purple stems! Upward!!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 6
This is one of the most detailed diaries I’ve ever seen. Bro I’m officially jealous!
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Appreciate it brother haha! It makes it easier to spot problems, or things I did wrong/right because I literally document everything. Only been growing about 2 years and still trying to learn as much as possible. This is definitely the most notes I've taken to date
Nicogreen
Nicogreenweek 11
Prøv at bruge HORNUM GØDNING ELLER PLAGRON BROR det fuldstændigt sindsygt godt. Jeg har lige selv haft brugt advance nutriens. Så ved du vil blive meget glad for mit råd. G Flotte planter glæder mig til at du sender mig lidt haha griner 😊 😉 👍🏼 ❤️ MVH Nicogreen on growdiaries.com/ please tjek it out 👌
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 8
Hey buddy how’s you get rid of the gnats??? I think I missed it if you already gave an explanation I apologize…but would still like to know!
Qutro
Qutroweek 16
Congrats on the chop. Those nugs turned out beautiful and looking delicious. Hope you enjoy the puff. ✌️🏻💨
Louder
Louder
@Qutro, Thank you. Pretty happy with the outcome. Should be a nice fall
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 13
Caked my friend
Louder
Louder
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, I predict snow, Al Roker