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a year ago
BLOOM WEEK 6 (Sept 26-Oct 2) --------------------------------------------------- We start the week by flushing all plants with CaMg/PK 14/15 @ 1.0 EC. We'll let them dry back until they're starving for food and hit them with high strength bloom feed for the remainder of the week. _________________ Sept 26 (FLUSH) Mix: 5ml CaMg/gal, 5ml PK 14/15/gal : 5 gal water = 1.4 EC (+4L) "KC1 In: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (10L) Out: 1.7 EC/5.8 pH (23c) "KC2 In: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (10L) Out: 1.7 EC/5.8 pH (23c) "GS In: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (10L) Out: 2.1 EC/5.5 pH (22c) "ELB In: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (12L) Out: 1.7 EC/5.8 pH (23c) *MC In: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (8L) Out: 2.1 EC/5.8 pH (22c) *CG In: 1.0 EC/6.0 pH (10L) Out: 1.9 EC/5.8 pH (23c) 🌡️: 26.5c ✅ ❄️: 21c ✅ 🌧️: 59.3% ✅ ☁️: 49.9% ✅ 📈: 1.78 ⬇️ (brief temperature spike w/ low humidity) 📉: 1.01 ⬆️ (dehumidifier bucket full and was off for an hour 📊: 1.44 kPa ✅ Phew! Alright, flush is DONE! Hand watering fuckin sucks 🤣. Probably didn't need to put as much water through as I did, but now they're full of the goods and there's very little nitrogen in the mix. Runoffs are between 1.7-2.1 EC and 5.5-5.8 pH. Ranges are good. VPD is good. Noticed most of the plants have ripening pistils already (Day 36). They're all early finishers (under 60 days) so we'll see what happens this week. I'll likely let them go 9 weeks anyway because I don't mind if they go a bit narco. Once these dry out, they'll get 2.4 EC for the remainder of the week. ____________ Sept 27 🌡️: 28.5c ❌⬇️ ❄️: 21c ✅ 🌧️: 59.3% ✅ ☁️: 47.4% ⬆️ 📈: 1.85 ❌⬇️ 📉: 1.21 ✅ 📊: 1.44 kPa ✅ • No water (PM) I thought it would take days for these pots to dry but after 24 hours, the 3 gallons are light and the 5 gallons are like 75% dry. The ELB is actually pretty light too. I'll skip watering tonight but probably have to hit the 3 gallons in the morning. PAR is reading between 885 in the corners and 1300 directly under the lamp. Average of 1068 at the canopy around the lamps. ______________ Sept 28 AM • Watered 3 gallons (1L) and ELB (1.5L) • Turned off intake at lights OFF • Switched exhaust from AUTO to ON (Speed 8) • Dehumidifier to 50% • Turned AC on at 20c between 845-945 AM Humidity was in low 50's / high 40's last night (because of the dry pots) causing VPD to rise out of ideal range (1.85). I'll give them all a big feeding tonight. _________________________ Sept 28 PM (2-4L @ 20c) Mix: 1.5ml/L CaMg, 3ml/L A, 3ml/L B, 1ml/L B52, 2ml/L Overdrive = 2.6 EC (+2L) • 2.4 EC/6.1 pH 🌡️: 27.5c ✅ ❄️: 21.8c 🆗 🌧️: 56.9% 🆗 ☁️: 51.7% ✅ 📈: 1.68 🆗⬇️ 📉: 1.12 🆗 (lights off, doesn't really matter) 📊: 1.55 kPa ✅ • Only a small amount of runoff Soon as I say the VPD is in range, it goes out of range. Heat wave coming for some reason...Highs of 27-29c next week. I'm trying to decrease the lights off temperature (and temperatures overall) but it hasn't been working, and this weather is absolutely disrespectful. I'll be running the house AC (IN FKN OCTOBER!!!) so maybe that helps out. This is really the last week to bulk up the flowers so the environment is super important. Humidity below 55% is goal right now, that's been relatively easy to hit during lights on and the majority of the dark period. __________________ Sept 29 AM (1L) • 3 gallon bags only (2.4 EC/6.1 pH) There's ripening pistils all over the place. The only ones that don't really have any are the Cherry and the Grandpa's Stash. At day 40 they may even be ready at the breeder time frame of 56-60 days. That's sort of a problem because my feed schedule is built for 9 weeks of flowering. Loose plan is to feed at 2.4 EC for the rest of the week, drop the EC to 1.8 for week 7 and flush week 8. I don't think I'll need more than a 7 day flush after giving them two pretty substantial drenchings recently. ___________________ Sept 29 PM (2L) Mix: 1.5ml/L CaMg, 3ml/L A, 3ml/L B, 1ml/L B52, 2ml/L Overdrive • 2.4 EC / 6.1 pH • No runoff 🌡️: 27.2c ✅ ❄️: 21.2c ✅ 🌧️: 57.2% ✅ ☁️: 51.7% ✅ 📈: 1.77 ⬇️ 📉: 1.12 ✅ 📊: 1.38 kPa ✅ The big temperature spikes are coming from adjusting (or forgetting to adjust) the hygrometer for leaf temps so the VPD of 1.77 is inflated. I'm taking 4 degrees off the room temp sensor at lights on, and then adding it back at lights off. SUPREME pain in the ass. ___________ Sept 30 🌡️: 28c ⬇️ ❄️: 21.7c ✅ 🌧️: 57.2% ✅ ☁️: 51.7% ✅ 📈: 1.79 ⬇️ 📉: 1.23 ✅ 📊: 1.51 kPa ✅ Hosted a party last night and didn't get into the room. Those pots will be bone dry and ready to chug. _______________ Oct 1 (3-4L) Mix: 48ml A, 48ml B, 36ml Overdrive, 24ml B52, 22ml PB Tea: 5 gallons water = 2.4 EC / 6.2 pH 🌡️: 27.5c ⬇️ ❄️: 20.3c ✅ 🌧️: 58.4%✅ ☁️: 44.5%✅ 📈: 2.02❌⬇️ 📉: 1.15🆗 📊: 1.56 kPa ✅ • Small amount of runoff on some Flowers are still stacking nicely and I'm hoping they really start growing into each other making those nice long colas we all want. The trichomes are coming in thick with the slightly lower night temps. _____________ Oct 2 (2-3L) Mix: 20ml Silica, 24ml CaMg, 16 ml PK 14/15 : 4 gal water = 1.5 EC 🌡️: 26.5c ✅ ❄️: 20.2c ✅ 🌧️: 59.9% ⬇️ ☁️: 47.7% ✅ 📈: 1.83 ⬇️ 📉: 1.05 🆗 📊: 1.33 kPa ✅ Last day of week 6! A lot of ripening pistils and loads of frost. I have a feeling they'll be ready by day 60 so next week I'll drop the EC down to 1.5. I haven't grown a ton of cookie strains, but from my limited experience with them, I've noticed their feeding drops off significantly after week 6. When I would use high frequency fertigation, I could tell by the difference in runoff EC from week 6 to 7. Week 6 I would see runoff lower than my input and in week 7 (with the same strength) would be a LOT higher than the input. If these were 9 week strains, I would probably continue at this EC but these are going to be as advertised (EARLY GIRLS). The Cherry G-S-Y will be the last to finish. She looks like she's in mid-stacking phase and there's only white pistils everywhere. Next week temperature and humidity need to come down. I'm aiming for 25c / 45-55% day and 20c / <50% night. The first problem is the heat wave here doesn't end until Saturday night so I'm going to have to run the house A/C to keep things cooler. I'm also getting drastically different humidity readings from my hygrometer vs. the dehumidifier so I can't really even say if my VPD numbers are accurate. To top it off, the dehumidifier dropped off the network somehow and I can't access it remotely anymore. Still haven't done any real defoliating yet. I cleaned the bottoms up (maybe 1/4 of the way up the plants) at the start of bloom and haven't touched them since. I may take some larger interior fan leaves off just for better airflow and to lower humidity, but only if I have to.
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommentedweek 02 years ago
Sweet line up. I’m in for the long run
Louder
Loudercommented2 years ago
@Ezzjaybruh, Thanks homie! Hoping to get a few keepers out of these cuts 🤞
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardencommentedweek 0a year ago
Love the genetics you are growing, looking forward to see how they grow Good luck with the germination ser 🙏🙌
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommentedweek 4a year ago
Hate to say it but maybe the one cupping contracted a virus when cut for the clone/rooting.. hard to know for sure without testing tho
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Ezzjaybruh, Always appreciate the input dude. Looking closer into my VPD...my humidity might be low for the day temps too. And I've been lowering it on purpose lol FK me
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommenteda year ago
@Louder, could very well be.. you’re experienced and know different plants do different stuff. Just wanted to comment that, in case you hadn’t thought of it! Love ethos tho, excited to see how they turn out
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Ezzjaybruh, it's pretty strange for sure. I had some cupping after topping during my last run, but that was just the two main fans, not new growth. These cuts DID come from a friend but I took every measure to make sure they were clean. The mothers looked super healthy too. Looking at my daily watering schedule for the last few weeks (in notes), I was dumping a lot into them and the PPM wasn't very high either. My gut is telling me it's overwatering combined with pH spikes and underfertilizing. For now I'm just backing off the watering, increasing the PPM and monitoring the runoff to see where the pH is going.
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XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreencommentedweek 3a year ago
Beautiful garden growmie👨‍🌾😃🌲💚
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@XII_XII_MrGreen, I'm pretty sure that's part of it. I already raised the lamps to about 40" from the canopy and that's giving me a really dumb, low DLI. I lowered the humidity (50-60%), raised night time temperatures to 22-23 from 20-21c...I turned down the fans ...stopped watering for a few days. It could honestly be a number of things. I've been overwatering...possibly underfertilizing...idk man lol
XII_XII_MrGreen
XII_XII_MrGreencommenteda year ago
@Louder, that means the light is to bright for this lady.. I got one in my tent now too (sapphire), if more plants in the tent would show those signs I would turn it down.. since it's only 1 I say fk it 😜
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@XII_XII_MrGreen, thanks, working at it my dude. Trying to sort out this leaf cupping.
XII_XII_EarlyRaver
XII_XII_EarlyRavercommentedweek 9a year ago
Wauw bro this is legit shit haha wauw you're a sirious grower my friend 💪🏻👌🏻🔥 so now I look like a amature lol hahahah really lovely grow sir 👌🏻👌🏻 I'm following this for sure bro keep up the good work 👌🏻💪🏻
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@XII_XII_EarlyRaver, Thanks homie! Big effort on this run. MAXIMUM effort. Your grows look far from amateur my dude, been watching em for a minute 👍
Crashoverite
Crashoveritecommentedweek 9a year ago
Good luck with your grow mate ✌️
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
Wishar_Garden
Wishar_Gardencommentedweek 7a year ago
Nice Line-up, good luck with the rest of the grow ser 🙏🙌
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Wishar_Garden, big thanks 🍻
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommentedweek 3a year ago
Happy growing this Ethos cultivar, hope for great harvest!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@WhiteEdge, cheers fella! 🍻
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420commentedweek 16a year ago
Wow what a diary! Great job mate. Just took me half hour to read and I must say the work and effort you have put into this is amazing. Great looking plants 🌱 ✌️👊🏻😍
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420commenteda year ago
@Louder, I’m on the hunt bro. Thanks for the advise 👊🏻✌️ keep smashing it brother
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Green_Man_420, Thanks dude, I was determined to smash this run after having a brutal yield last winter. This one still wasn't perfect but I'm pretty chuffed about it. Can't complain. Ethos is blowing up right now. One of the top breeders imo. Haven't been disappointed with any of their gear. There's seed banks in North America that will ship worldwide. Brotanical Gardens might be worth a shot. I've personally never used them so I can't speak on the reliability but I've never had an issue with any seed bank I've ordered from. Happy hunting!
Green_Man_420
Green_Man_420commenteda year ago
@Louder, honestly mate it’s a cracking diary! A lot of time and effort has gone into it. Great job ✌️ I really wanna try Ethos but not sure where to get them in the U.K.
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FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 7a year ago
Hey how much space do you have to work? What are your room dimensions? It looks custom!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommenteda year ago
@Louder, hell yeah bro you got some space to make shit happen 😎
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Yeah! I built this area off a spare bedroom in my basement. It's all built around the 8" exhaust that runs straight through a concealed chase I made through the master bedroom closet and vented through the roof. I framed out the walls for 3 1/2" batts, insulated with R22 safe and sound and boarded it with mold resistant drywall. Ceiling is strapped out to hide some of the cables and the hygrometer probe (kinda wish I just kept the height). I installed insulated drycore squares for the floor and put flat white primer on everything. All the corners are caulked with silicone and that bitch is air tight. The poly zipper door in front of the access door pulls right in when the extractor kicks on and puffs out when the intake goes on. It measures 4' 6" W x 9' 6" L (+ door swing) x 6' 6" H. Not much headroom in there
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommentedweek 13a year ago
Wow this ETHOS clones are insanely frosty. Great work on this man!
WhiteEdge
WhiteEdgecommenteda year ago
@Louder, No daubt in that!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@WhiteEdge, thanks brotha! Been very happy with this run so far. They should really cake up in the next week or so with the lower room temps🤞
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 16a year ago
The lemon berry and cherry Garcia turned out amazing bro. Unbelievable results with little signs of stress. I’m doing a full Sundea Driver run next and I hope the buds turn out this good
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha! Can't wait to see your room full of SD!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 16a year ago
Been a minute since I’ve jumped on GD. These turned out amazing my friend!!!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Thank you brotha. Your tips definitely saved the day. Almost ready to trim up!
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhcommentedweek 14a year ago
Showing out.. look so damn good
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Ezzjaybruh, thanks homie. Just a few weeks to go!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 13a year ago
I love how green the stem is with no signs of purpling whatsoever
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, don't think I've ever had a run without purple stems! Upward!!
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 6a year ago
This is one of the most detailed diaries I’ve ever seen. Bro I’m officially jealous!
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Appreciate it brother haha! It makes it easier to spot problems, or things I did wrong/right because I literally document everything. Only been growing about 2 years and still trying to learn as much as possible. This is definitely the most notes I've taken to date
Nicogreen
Nicogreencommentedweek 11a year ago
Prøv at bruge HORNUM GØDNING ELLER PLAGRON BROR det fuldstændigt sindsygt godt. Jeg har lige selv haft brugt advance nutriens. Så ved du vil blive meget glad for mit råd. G Flotte planter glæder mig til at du sender mig lidt haha griner 😊 😉 👍🏼 ❤️ MVH Nicogreen on growdiaries.com/ please tjek it out 👌
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 8a year ago
Hey buddy how’s you get rid of the gnats??? I think I missed it if you already gave an explanation I apologize…but would still like to know!
Qutro
Qutrocommentedweek 16a year ago
Congrats on the chop. Those nugs turned out beautiful and looking delicious. Hope you enjoy the puff. ✌️🏻💨
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@Qutro, Thank you. Pretty happy with the outcome. Should be a nice fall
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGcommentedweek 13a year ago
Caked my friend
Louder
Loudercommenteda year ago
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, I predict snow, Al Roker