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Side-by-Side GDP: Fox Farms vs. Advanced

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GrimbolTheDruid GrimbolTheDruid
7 years ago
GDP1 - AN GDP2 - FF PPMs: GDP1 - 402 ppm (1/3rd strength base nutrients and additives) GDP2 - 365 ppm (1/4th strength base nutrients and additives) Height: GDP1 - 8" GDP2 - 5" Updates/observations: One of the nice guys at my local hydro store hooked it up with a free sample of Recharge and he said some of his people have good results with it and others hate it so I thought I would give it a shot. It made the reservoirs really foamy and the water really dark but I am curious to see how it does because my reservoir temps have been way too hot lately. It has been hot outside so my tent rarely goes below 90 degrees F. I used about 1 tsp in each bucket. - GDP1 remains significantly more developed with more height and inter-nodal spacing compared to GDP2. - I have been really aggressive with GDP2 pruning and trying to open that plant up so it is not quite so miniaturized and can grow upwards. - I decided to use some LST and my green gardeners tape to train them outward further to utilize as much of my tent as possible. - The roots finally took off this week. They were super slow beforehand. I am interested to see what this Recharge will do. - I lollipopped both plants a bit to get them growing out and up. - I have determined that I can let my largest plant reach 15" before I flip to account for a 2x stretch period up to my max of 30". Thanks for tuning in everyone! Happy growing!
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GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidweek 8
AN is Advanced Nutrients and FF is Fox Farms. GDP1 is running only AN while GDP2 is running Fox Farms.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@CBD_Sweden, I'm going to be placing a seed order very soon so I will keep you in mind bud. Happy growing!
CBD_Sweden
CBD_Sweden
@Grimbol, Iยดm glad to help. Hope you find a strain that you like. If you order something iยดm curious to know what strain you choosed.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@CBD_Sweden, Thanks so much dude I really appreciate that!
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GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidweek 7
Yeah I know that one experiment with only two test subjects isn't really the greatest experiment but it's honestly not even close any more. The FF plant is super miniaturized and growing extremely slowly.
CANNASIM
CANNASIM
@TheFBM, would be perfect to have around, my gf uses for that purpose! ๐Ÿ™ƒ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป Cheers
TheFairyBudMother
TheFairyBudMother
@CANNASIM, GDP is great for pain and sleep! @Grimbol - Cool experiment and gorgeous pruning. I am excited to see your end results!
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@CANNASIM, Thanks man! Me too!
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 13
FFS ... men it sux .... I feel very sorry for you bro.... bloody spider mites ๐Ÿ˜” I suggest you Sierra Natural Science SNS 217 for those bloody mites. You shall wait 9 days before starting a new crop. They reproduce every 3 days.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidweek 11
I've had some problems here and there but can you be more specific? What makes them awful to you?
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidweek 11
Yeah I'm so impressed with this plant that I took clones just in case she is purple. I love how she grows, no nutrient problems, huge root ball and she drinks like a champion. About a gallon a day in veg! All that combined with the purple pheno and I will keep a mother of this girl maybe for a breeding project.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidweek 2
Thanks for the advice man I will check that out!
Fun_Growin
Fun_Growinweek 8
Grimbol, whats up with your roots at week 8?? you should have roots like that by week 2 or 3, by week 8 you should almost fill a 5 gal bucket or more... are those roots pics from week 8 or am i looking at it wrong? im on my 3rd grow, and i had roots like that too, and every one died in week 2 flower! not trying to rain on your day :)
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@FL_Grown, Yeah dude you know actually I bet that's what it is. My reservoir temps have been high ever since summer hit :(
Fun_Growin
Fun_Growin
@Grimbol, Duno if your using great white That and KLN helped mine a lot, lower temp would help me more :) I'll keep watching and growing w ya
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@FL_Grown, That's a great question man. This site doesn't have a "seedling" stage and I don't count them as being in veg really until they have at least 3-4 sets of leaves and would have outgrown their solo cup. So I would say I'm finishing up my 4th week of veg right now. But I agree. The roots do look a little stunted in those pictures. They took off this week so stay tuned for a picture of that tomorrow
HOPEtr
HOPEtrweek 11
ฤฑ hate this seedbank
HOPEtr
HOPEtr
@Grimbol, seeds r awful
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@hopetr, Why is that?
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 10
Nice shaping bro ๐Ÿ‘
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNS
@Grimbol,Patience is the key , it's true ๐Ÿ‘
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Thanks man. I'm really making sure her shape is perfect before I start flower. Patience is key!
CANNASIM
CANNASIMweek 9
She hates FF, curious to see how it will reflect on harvest! Both look very good and healthy despite the size difference!
CANNASIM
CANNASIM
@Grimbol, For sure! ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿป Cheers
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@CANNASIM, Yeah honestly I had a really negative experience with them on my first grow but I wanted to give them a chance. The Ff plant is looking healthy I would say but not really vibrant like the AN plant.
thrashordie
thrashordieweek 7
curious about its purple buds mate! when do you think for switch 12/12?
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@thrashordie, Made my final tops today so probably 2-3 weeks until flower. I'm pretty sure I calculated it out and I can let them get to 14" before I need to flip.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@thrashordie, Hard to say I think I'm about less than a week away from their final topping then they will start to really grow upwards. From there I would imagine another week or two to reach 18" and then I flip them. My veg is pretty long but I really love sculpting the plants.
melly
mellyweek 13
im confused. you know these plants thrive in the outdoors right? seems crazy to worry so much about bugs when they grow so good in the ground under the sun. i guess the problem is not that you have bad bugs in there but you dont have the good bugs which would normally keep the bad ones under control.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@melly, Yep there is a lot of truth to this. Where I live, I can only grow outside for 2 months of the year unfortunately.
BreakingBud
BreakingBudweek 11
excellent work bro
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@HOW_i_GROW, Thank you man! I really appreciate it.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 11
Looks like FF is winning ๐Ÿ˜„
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Haha definitely man! I might get a whole blunt off her!
CANNASIM
CANNASIMweek 10
How can the diference be so brutal... I'm perplex by your test...
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@CANNASIM, I know dude it is pretty crazy.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 9
You are an artist, aggressive on GDP2 ? 10 hours later she was ok ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ‘ When I touch my plants they need 1 week to recover from stress , I wish I could be aggressive like you are bro !
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Haha yeah isn't that crazy! Hydro responds so fast I think.
nicogm
nicogmweek 6
I really love main-lining... good luck on your growing bro!
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@nicogm, Thanks man you too.
Autof
Autofweek 1
Good
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruid
@Autof, Thanks!
artfullDODGER33
artfullDODGER33week 13
Shame...Little can be done when in flower (Other than Molasses feeding)....However while in Veg it is possible to rid yourself of mites with a thorough regime of spraying every 4 days or so for 4 wks is sufficient with an Organic Fatty Acid Soap Based Spray onto the leaves top and underside especially...before returning plants to the grow room which you have sterilised with strong detergents. It is essential to repeat this process several times until all existing adults have been eradicated along with all eggs which have been laid upon the undersides of the leaves have hatched out and those too eradicated. Also apparently increasing the Brix levels within the leaves by feeding with Vinasse or Molasses will make you Plants less appealing to sucking insects ..google it As stated a decision was made and More seeds can be started soon...No Regrets and Cleanliness is Next to Godliness...Never use anything from the back garden indoors not even a pot etc. belive me I know I have had Mites, Fungus Gnats and even Caterpillars chewing My leaves after a Moth got into My Tent unnoticed one night. You seem to have a good idea of what needs doing as well as some good cleaning of the general area where the tent was positioned within the house
TheFairyBudMother
TheFairyBudMotherweek 13
My condolences! If it's any consolation, I gave you one of my 3 votes because this is an awesome, well recorded diary, and has a lot of value because you experimented, took risks, learned some new things and shared it honestly and with humility with us. I'm looking forward to your next endeavor. I had those f'rs in Lilliput bud land. (We fae are little so we're pleased even with the small dank bud Jah has provided). I appreciate your words about providing good medicine and knowing what I now know, people put a lot trust into the folk who cultivate their meds.