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Side-by-Side GDP: Fox Farms vs. Advanced

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GrimbolTheDruid GrimbolTheDruid
8 years ago
GDP1 - AN GDP2 - FF PPMs: GDP1 - 350 ppm (1/3rd strength base nutrients and additives) GDP2 - 411 ppm (1/8th strength base nutrients and additives) Height: GDP1 - 6.5" GDP2 - 4" Updates/observations: - GDP1 remains significantly more developed with more height and inter-nodal spacing compared to GDP2. - I added one more 132 W actual GH LED because I have a few autos growing in there and I am going to be using it for flower anyway. - I re-calibrated my pH pen and and I believe it was a little high for the beginning of this grow. - All cuts/tops are officially done on both plants. For more information on my manifolding method used here see this link . They are tied down with their eight nodes beginning to grow upwards so now lets see what they can really do! - I have determined that I can let my largest plant reach 15" before I flip to account for a 2x stretch period up to my max of 30". Thanks for tuning in everyone! Happy growing!
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GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommentedweek 88 years ago
AN is Advanced Nutrients and FF is Fox Farms. GDP1 is running only AN while GDP2 is running Fox Farms.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@CBD_Sweden, I'm going to be placing a seed order very soon so I will keep you in mind bud. Happy growing!
CBD_Sweden
CBD_Swedencommented8 years ago
@Grimbol, I´m glad to help. Hope you find a strain that you like. If you order something i´m curious to know what strain you choosed.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@CBD_Sweden, Thanks so much dude I really appreciate that!
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GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommentedweek 78 years ago
Yeah I know that one experiment with only two test subjects isn't really the greatest experiment but it's honestly not even close any more. The FF plant is super miniaturized and growing extremely slowly.
CANNASIM
CANNASIMcommented8 years ago
@TheFBM, would be perfect to have around, my gf uses for that purpose! 🙃👌🏻 Cheers
TheFairyBudMother
TheFairyBudMothercommented8 years ago
@CANNASIM, GDP is great for pain and sleep! @Grimbol - Cool experiment and gorgeous pruning. I am excited to see your end results!
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@CANNASIM, Thanks man! Me too!
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 138 years ago
FFS ... men it sux .... I feel very sorry for you bro.... bloody spider mites 😔 I suggest you Sierra Natural Science SNS 217 for those bloody mites. You shall wait 9 days before starting a new crop. They reproduce every 3 days.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommentedweek 118 years ago
I've had some problems here and there but can you be more specific? What makes them awful to you?
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommentedweek 118 years ago
Yeah I'm so impressed with this plant that I took clones just in case she is purple. I love how she grows, no nutrient problems, huge root ball and she drinks like a champion. About a gallon a day in veg! All that combined with the purple pheno and I will keep a mother of this girl maybe for a breeding project.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommentedweek 28 years ago
Thanks for the advice man I will check that out!
Fun_Growin
Fun_Growincommentedweek 88 years ago
Grimbol, whats up with your roots at week 8?? you should have roots like that by week 2 or 3, by week 8 you should almost fill a 5 gal bucket or more... are those roots pics from week 8 or am i looking at it wrong? im on my 3rd grow, and i had roots like that too, and every one died in week 2 flower! not trying to rain on your day :)
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@FL_Grown, Yeah dude you know actually I bet that's what it is. My reservoir temps have been high ever since summer hit :(
Fun_Growin
Fun_Growincommented8 years ago
@Grimbol, Duno if your using great white That and KLN helped mine a lot, lower temp would help me more :) I'll keep watching and growing w ya
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@FL_Grown, That's a great question man. This site doesn't have a "seedling" stage and I don't count them as being in veg really until they have at least 3-4 sets of leaves and would have outgrown their solo cup. So I would say I'm finishing up my 4th week of veg right now. But I agree. The roots do look a little stunted in those pictures. They took off this week so stay tuned for a picture of that tomorrow
HOPEtr
HOPEtrcommentedweek 118 years ago
ı hate this seedbank
HOPEtr
HOPEtrcommented8 years ago
@Grimbol, seeds r awful
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@hopetr, Why is that?
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 108 years ago
Nice shaping bro 👍
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommented8 years ago
@Grimbol,Patience is the key , it's true 👍
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Thanks man. I'm really making sure her shape is perfect before I start flower. Patience is key!
CANNASIM
CANNASIMcommentedweek 98 years ago
She hates FF, curious to see how it will reflect on harvest! Both look very good and healthy despite the size difference!
CANNASIM
CANNASIMcommented8 years ago
@Grimbol, For sure! 👌🏻👍🏻👊🏻 Cheers
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@CANNASIM, Yeah honestly I had a really negative experience with them on my first grow but I wanted to give them a chance. The Ff plant is looking healthy I would say but not really vibrant like the AN plant.
thrashordie
thrashordiecommentedweek 78 years ago
curious about its purple buds mate! when do you think for switch 12/12?
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@thrashordie, Made my final tops today so probably 2-3 weeks until flower. I'm pretty sure I calculated it out and I can let them get to 14" before I need to flip.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@thrashordie, Hard to say I think I'm about less than a week away from their final topping then they will start to really grow upwards. From there I would imagine another week or two to reach 18" and then I flip them. My veg is pretty long but I really love sculpting the plants.
melly
mellycommentedweek 136 years ago
im confused. you know these plants thrive in the outdoors right? seems crazy to worry so much about bugs when they grow so good in the ground under the sun. i guess the problem is not that you have bad bugs in there but you dont have the good bugs which would normally keep the bad ones under control.
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented6 years ago
@melly, Yep there is a lot of truth to this. Where I live, I can only grow outside for 2 months of the year unfortunately.
BreakingBud
BreakingBudcommentedweek 118 years ago
excellent work bro
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@HOW_i_GROW, Thank you man! I really appreciate it.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 118 years ago
Looks like FF is winning 😄
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Haha definitely man! I might get a whole blunt off her!
CANNASIM
CANNASIMcommentedweek 108 years ago
How can the diference be so brutal... I'm perplex by your test...
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@CANNASIM, I know dude it is pretty crazy.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNScommentedweek 98 years ago
You are an artist, aggressive on GDP2 ? 10 hours later she was ok 😄👍 When I touch my plants they need 1 week to recover from stress , I wish I could be aggressive like you are bro !
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, Haha yeah isn't that crazy! Hydro responds so fast I think.
nicogm
nicogmcommentedweek 68 years ago
I really love main-lining... good luck on your growing bro!
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@nicogm, Thanks man you too.
Autof
Autofcommentedweek 18 years ago
Good
GrimbolTheDruid
GrimbolTheDruidcommented8 years ago
@Autof, Thanks!
artfullDODGER33
artfullDODGER33commentedweek 136 years ago
Shame...Little can be done when in flower (Other than Molasses feeding)....However while in Veg it is possible to rid yourself of mites with a thorough regime of spraying every 4 days or so for 4 wks is sufficient with an Organic Fatty Acid Soap Based Spray onto the leaves top and underside especially...before returning plants to the grow room which you have sterilised with strong detergents. It is essential to repeat this process several times until all existing adults have been eradicated along with all eggs which have been laid upon the undersides of the leaves have hatched out and those too eradicated. Also apparently increasing the Brix levels within the leaves by feeding with Vinasse or Molasses will make you Plants less appealing to sucking insects ..google it As stated a decision was made and More seeds can be started soon...No Regrets and Cleanliness is Next to Godliness...Never use anything from the back garden indoors not even a pot etc. belive me I know I have had Mites, Fungus Gnats and even Caterpillars chewing My leaves after a Moth got into My Tent unnoticed one night. You seem to have a good idea of what needs doing as well as some good cleaning of the general area where the tent was positioned within the house
TheFairyBudMother
TheFairyBudMothercommentedweek 137 years ago
My condolences! If it's any consolation, I gave you one of my 3 votes because this is an awesome, well recorded diary, and has a lot of value because you experimented, took risks, learned some new things and shared it honestly and with humility with us. I'm looking forward to your next endeavor. I had those f'rs in Lilliput bud land. (We fae are little so we're pleased even with the small dank bud Jah has provided). I appreciate your words about providing good medicine and knowing what I now know, people put a lot trust into the folk who cultivate their meds.