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Armor Si
0.651 ml/l
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DFWmd DFWmd
7 months ago
Wednesday, Sept 20 (Day 22) - Calculations for 20 gallons of veg nutrient solution (I was going to do 28 gallons but my container looked too weak, the sides bowing out, so this time I just did 20 gallons): In 20 gallons of tap water... 1, Add 50 mL Armor Si (silica) and wait 1+ hours. 2. Add Jack's Nutrients 15-5-20, 100.94 grams, and Epsom salt, 19.79 grams. (Nutrient schedule says 504.72 grams 15-5-20 and 98.94 grams Epsom salt pr 100 gallons.) 3. Add 5 tsp RAW humic acid 4. Add 5/8 tsp RAW Yucca (wetting agent) ... measure EC and adjust if needed. Tap water was _0.462_ and goal for total is 2.1 + tap, or __2.562__. Ended up with _2.416_. ... measure pH and adjust to goal of 5.8-6.2. Ended up with __6.0__. 5. Add 25 mL RapidStart. 6. Add 50 mL H2O2. ----- Thursday, Sept 21 (Day 23) - (Focused on Plant 1 which I eventually decided to abandon.) ----- Friday, Sept 22 (Day 24) - Late at night I transplanted plants 2 and 3 into 5-gallon pots. ----- Saturday, Sept 23 (Day 25) - I hand-watered each pot to ensure saturation then arranged it so each has two drip emitters. I changed the duration of each timed fertigation from 20 to 30 sec then 40 seconds. I estimate each fertigation should be ~3 cups nutrient solution which at 6x/day would be 18 cups or 1 1/8 gallons. For a few different reasons (see first diary for this grow for more explanation), I decreased the EC. The nutrient schedule for Jack's Nutrients suggested no need to work your way up slowly but it clearly would've been safer for me to do that. Their feeding chart shows that for vegetative growth, the EC should be 2.1 plus the tap water (for 15-5-20.) Tonight, I reduced by 5-gallon reservoir nutrient solution EC from 2.566 to 2.048, ~20% lower. I pH'd to 5.9. *[Note: Plants 2 and 3 had five days of nutrient solution (Days 14-18) that had 10x the magnesium.] I topped plant 3 tonight. ----- Sunday, Sept 24 (Day 26) - (I gave up on Plant 1 and pitched it. That had been the impetus for the first diary. After today, content will be new. Up until now it's been mostly summarized from that first diary, edited to focus on just Plants 2 and 3.) At this point with Plant 1 gone it's just Plants 2 and 3. I adjusted the Mars Hydro drip emitters so each plant has 4 emitters. Each fertigation is set for 20 seconds which should be about 2/3 cup per emitter or 2 2/3 cup per plant per fertigation. At 6x/day, that's about 1 gallon per plant. When the plants are flowering, I'll likely increase the fertigation duration to 30 sec which would be 4 cups per fertigation total, and, at 6x/day, 1.5 gallons per plant. 4 cups is 5% of the volume of a 5-gallon pot. I topped Plant 2 and trimmed all leaves below that 3rd node. I've decided Plant 2 will be Manifolded as credited to Nebula Haze, which from my reading is topping twice, accomplishing eight branches by topping and training after the first topping so each side after the first topping ends up with four branches. I've decided Plant 3 will be Mainlined as credited to Nugbuckets, which from my reading is topping three times at symmetrical nodes to produce eight equal main branches. (I know some of these terms are interchangeable/overlap, but this is how I'm thinking about them.) ----- Monday, Sept 25 (Day 27) - Plant 2 is recovering from the topping/trimming that it went through yesterday. Plant 3 seems to be doing well. I supercropped and tied down the branches growing from that first topping to help them grow out from the center more. (My first time that I am sure I did it correctly. I felt the pop in the branch when I squeezed it and the result looks just like lots of pictures in tutorials I've ready. Yay!) EC of the 5-gallon reservoir today was ~2.05; I pH'd to 5.8. I checked the run-off from yesterday's fertigation and the results were lower than the reservoir EC. ----- Tuesday, Sept 26 (Day 28) - supercropped Plant 2but didn't tie down. I'm continuing to try to train Plant 3. Refilled 5-gallon nutrient reservoir: pH'd to 6.0 and EC ~2.0. Run-off was low at first, I thought, but I think I forgot to switch mode to EC from PPM. When I was more careful, the run-off seemed ~0.4-0.5 higher. I'll increase duration of fertigation from 20 to 25 seconds. Eventually, it'll go to 30 seconds and that may be needed now but I'm also trying not to waste nutrient solution. ----- END OF 4TH WEEK FROM SEED
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Grow Questions
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
Finishing up the topping portion of mainlining. P2 to be Nebula-Haze style and P3 to be Nugbuckets style. I'll be trimming growth tips other than from the 8 cola sites on each. Still keep un-shaded fan leaves below those levels? A lot online shows all lower fan leaves trimmed
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thedoe
thedoeanswered grow question 7 months ago
if the 8 growth shoots are ready to ride solo, you could remove the leaves if you cant tuck them. by that I mean they are developed and are already working on their 2nd node or so, if theyre too small it makes no sense. check out my grow; I had the same idea for 8 tops! same guide mine is probably not as bushy but youll get the idea. especially if youre not limited on time then it will recover regardless. just faster if they are ready to grow without need of those big fanleaves.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
I'm unsure about trimming/defoliation at this point: What's the goal for just before switching to 12/12? I've read to veg until your height is 1/2 to 1/3 the final height supported by the setup. I seem to have plenty of room still. How much do I trim under the canopy?
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mcflow
mcflowanswered grow question 7 months ago
if you're just before the switch to the flowering stage (12/12), focus on the following specifics: Undercanopy Trimming: Trim the lower branches and leaves that won't receive much light in the flowering stage. This directs energy to the top canopy. Remove Large Fan Leaves: Take out any large fan leaves that are shading potential bud sites in the lower and inner parts of the plant. Maintain Airflow: Ensure good airflow by removing excess foliage in the undercanopy. This helps prevent humidity-related issues. Avoid Over-Pruning: Be cautious not to over-prune, as you still want the plant to have enough foliage for photosynthesis and energy production. Top Canopy Focus: Concentrate on opening up the top canopy to allow light penetration and airflow for the main bud sites. Remember, the idea is to strike a balance between removing excess foliage and maintaining enough leaves for the plant's overall health. Keep an eye on how the plant responds and adjust accordingly.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
It's been 15 days since flipping from veg to 12/12. Am I done training to keep the canopy flat? The goal is basically to optimize flower development at this point, right? Tucking tall branches at this point would be counterproductive, right? (Unless too close to lights?)
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 6 months ago
People tend to let their plants go a bit more during the stretch but it's largely dependent on how much headroom you have with your lights. Like you mentioned, you're still gonna want to address areas that are outpacing the rest and growing into your light's "hotzone". Maybe not tucking branches, but super cropping is handy to level out colas.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There are a few colas that are much higher than the rest. Do I supercrop those? Just squeeze the stem and flop them over to canopy height? That makes me nervous...
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 6 months ago
If you are nervous about super-cropping then just tie it down...
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
Advice seems to be to tuck fan leaves so bud sites get more light. But don't plants work by light first going to leaves which send energy to flowers? A plant with leaves in shade and bud sites in light would do WORSE than v/v, right?
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Stickyone
Stickyoneanswered grow question 6 months ago
Tucking fan leaves in cannabis cultivation is a technique used to optimize light distribution and penetration within the canopy. While it may seem counterintuitive at first, tucking or removing some fan leaves can be beneficial for several reasons: Light Distribution: By tucking or removing fan leaves that are shading bud sites, you can ensure that more light reaches the lower parts of the plant where the potential bud sites are. This can help improve the overall yield and quality of your harvest. Air Circulation: Tucking leaves can also improve airflow within the canopy, reducing the risk of mold and mildew development, as well as promoting better overall plant health. Energy Allocation: Cannabis plants do require light for photosynthesis, which takes place primarily in the leaves. However, once energy is produced through photosynthesis, it is transported to different parts of the plant, including the flowers (buds). Tucking leaves doesn't stop the photosynthesis process; it redirects the energy flow to the areas that need it most, which are the developing buds. Pruning Strategy: Tucking fan leaves is often part of a broader pruning strategy that also includes selectively removing some leaves to improve light and airflow. This can help optimize the balance between energy production in the leaves and energy allocation to the buds. In summary, tucking fan leaves can help ensure that both leaves and bud sites receive an appropriate amount of light and energy. It's about creating a balance that maximizes the overall health and yield of your cannabis plants. However, it's essential to be mindful of not overpruning or removing too many leaves, as this can stress the plant. The specific approach may also depend on the strain and individual plant's needs, so it's a good practice to monitor your plants and adjust your techniques as necessary during the different growth stages.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There is still almost no smell from the flowers. Is that normal at this point? Today is 22 days into flower and the strain guide says flowering time is 9-12 weeks (63-84 days.)
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 6 months ago
Don't be afraid to rub your fingers in and around buds n see if there is any smell. Also sometimes you scratch the stem slightly and you will get a hint of the profile, kinda like a scratch n sniff.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 5 months ago
How many more weeks before harvest? ILGM website says flowering is 9-12 weeks and I'm just about done with 7 weeks. I don't have great close-up photos of trichomes but when I look at them through a loupe I don't see any amber. Pistils now majority orange.
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 5 months ago
So grower cards are just there to give you an idea of how long your plants will generally take to flower. That being said, every Pheno is different and will finish at a different time depending on certain variables. Environment, nutrients etc. I would give her another week and keep checking your trichomes until you get your plant where you want her. Don't sacrifice your smoke! 30% amber is usually a good time to harvest.
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Great haul πŸ’ͺ happy harvest bro πŸ‘
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@DFWmd, this is good the Blue Dreams strain apparently has some therapeutic qualities I hope she does the trick for you πŸ™
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@Mr_toetastic, Thanks so much! Way better than I'd hoped!
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great grow friend!! Keep on strong πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
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Monster stuff man! Keep doing your thing. They look gorgeous.
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@MeesterG, I'm so excited! Thanks for the support!
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@Lonelygrass, thanks so much!
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She looks so healty, good luck buddy ☘️
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@Lemonhazelover, thanks for your support!