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Main-Lining
weeks 3-15
Topping
weeks 3-15
LST
weeks 3-15
Defoliation
weeks 3-15
HST
weeks 3-15
Coco Coir
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Aged Forest Products
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Perlite
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DFWmd DFWmd
7 months ago
SEE MY OTHER DIARY FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT THESE TWO PLANTS INCUDING SET-UP EQUIPMENT ETC - I started a grow with four seeds of which two germinated then a cat killed a seedling then I euthanized the remaining plant on its day 35. That was Plant 1. Plants 2 and 3 were started when plant 1 was 9 days old so I'm consolidating into this diary so the information matches the weeks, etc. I'll just be summarizing what's already in the other diary up until Veg Week 3 in this diary. That will be all new content. BTW, the grow medium is Royal Gold Tupur, which is apparently some proprietary blend of coco coir (35-45%), aged forest products, perlite, and basalt. Since that's the order in the ingredients, I'm assuming the proportion of the total goes highest to lowest (that's how it is in the United States for ingredients listed on food labels. I guessed at the percentages when I set up the grow diary here. GERMINATION Day 1, August 30, 2023 - I plopped three Blue Dream seeds from ILGM into water until they sank. I then transferred to damp paper towels. Day 3 - two of those three seeds popped. (So, (including attempts in my first diary) out of 7 seeds, 4 germinated. I contacted ILGM and they said to let them know within a year how many didn't germinated at they'd replace them.) - Planted each in peat pellet and put in humidity dome. Day 5 - moved seedlings into Solo cups and they received their first fertigation. (I'm basing a lot of this grow on info from CocoforCannabis.com, which advocates for providing nutrients with every watering, which is called fertigating.) I'd made a 10x stock solution of Jack's Nutrients Clone by dissolving 31.55 grams of 15-6-17 into a gallon of distilled water. ---> I measured EC of tap water and it was 0.440. According to Jack's Nutrients nutrition schedule and their website, I'm to add the tap water EC with the target EC when making adjustments. For the Clone 15-6-17, the target EC is 1.1, so hope is mixed solution will measure at about 1.5 EC. Per Coco for Cannabis website, mixed the following: Step 1 - Filled a gallon container with tap water and took out 1.6 cups (10%, which is what I'll replace using the 10x stock solution of Clone 15-6-17.) Step 2 - Added 1/2 tsp (2.5 mL) Armor Si silicon additive and waited at least an hour. Step 3 - Added 1.6 cups of the 10x Clone stock solution. Step 4 - Added 1/8 tsp of Humic Acid. Step 5 - Added 1/64 tsp of Yucca. Then, measure EC and adjust. Result was 1.3 so I left as-is. Then, measure pH and adjust. Used color-changing solution for now and result was ~6.5-7; added pH Down and eventually result was ~5.5-6. Step 6 - Added 1/4 tsp (1.25 mL) RapidStart. Step 7 - Added 1/2 tsp (2.5 mL) H2O2. Days 6 and 7 - working on first set of true leaves. The mix above was leftover from Plant 1 which at this point had moved on to the veg mix of nutrients. I made a new batch of propagation mix using above formula. The tap EC was 0.504 and the total was 1.344; the nutrient schedule states goal as 1.1 plus tap water EC, so that's less intense but I can increase that later by adding more of the clone 10x stock. I pH'd it to 6.0. END OF 1ST WEEK FROM SEED
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Grow Questions
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
Finishing up the topping portion of mainlining. P2 to be Nebula-Haze style and P3 to be Nugbuckets style. I'll be trimming growth tips other than from the 8 cola sites on each. Still keep un-shaded fan leaves below those levels? A lot online shows all lower fan leaves trimmed
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thedoe
thedoeanswered grow question 7 months ago
if the 8 growth shoots are ready to ride solo, you could remove the leaves if you cant tuck them. by that I mean they are developed and are already working on their 2nd node or so, if theyre too small it makes no sense. check out my grow; I had the same idea for 8 tops! same guide mine is probably not as bushy but youll get the idea. especially if youre not limited on time then it will recover regardless. just faster if they are ready to grow without need of those big fanleaves.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
I'm unsure about trimming/defoliation at this point: What's the goal for just before switching to 12/12? I've read to veg until your height is 1/2 to 1/3 the final height supported by the setup. I seem to have plenty of room still. How much do I trim under the canopy?
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mcflow
mcflowanswered grow question 7 months ago
if you're just before the switch to the flowering stage (12/12), focus on the following specifics: Undercanopy Trimming: Trim the lower branches and leaves that won't receive much light in the flowering stage. This directs energy to the top canopy. Remove Large Fan Leaves: Take out any large fan leaves that are shading potential bud sites in the lower and inner parts of the plant. Maintain Airflow: Ensure good airflow by removing excess foliage in the undercanopy. This helps prevent humidity-related issues. Avoid Over-Pruning: Be cautious not to over-prune, as you still want the plant to have enough foliage for photosynthesis and energy production. Top Canopy Focus: Concentrate on opening up the top canopy to allow light penetration and airflow for the main bud sites. Remember, the idea is to strike a balance between removing excess foliage and maintaining enough leaves for the plant's overall health. Keep an eye on how the plant responds and adjust accordingly.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
It's been 15 days since flipping from veg to 12/12. Am I done training to keep the canopy flat? The goal is basically to optimize flower development at this point, right? Tucking tall branches at this point would be counterproductive, right? (Unless too close to lights?)
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 6 months ago
People tend to let their plants go a bit more during the stretch but it's largely dependent on how much headroom you have with your lights. Like you mentioned, you're still gonna want to address areas that are outpacing the rest and growing into your light's "hotzone". Maybe not tucking branches, but super cropping is handy to level out colas.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There are a few colas that are much higher than the rest. Do I supercrop those? Just squeeze the stem and flop them over to canopy height? That makes me nervous...
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Plant. Too tall
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 6 months ago
If you are nervous about super-cropping then just tie it down...
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
Advice seems to be to tuck fan leaves so bud sites get more light. But don't plants work by light first going to leaves which send energy to flowers? A plant with leaves in shade and bud sites in light would do WORSE than v/v, right?
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Stickyone
Stickyoneanswered grow question 6 months ago
Tucking fan leaves in cannabis cultivation is a technique used to optimize light distribution and penetration within the canopy. While it may seem counterintuitive at first, tucking or removing some fan leaves can be beneficial for several reasons: Light Distribution: By tucking or removing fan leaves that are shading bud sites, you can ensure that more light reaches the lower parts of the plant where the potential bud sites are. This can help improve the overall yield and quality of your harvest. Air Circulation: Tucking leaves can also improve airflow within the canopy, reducing the risk of mold and mildew development, as well as promoting better overall plant health. Energy Allocation: Cannabis plants do require light for photosynthesis, which takes place primarily in the leaves. However, once energy is produced through photosynthesis, it is transported to different parts of the plant, including the flowers (buds). Tucking leaves doesn't stop the photosynthesis process; it redirects the energy flow to the areas that need it most, which are the developing buds. Pruning Strategy: Tucking fan leaves is often part of a broader pruning strategy that also includes selectively removing some leaves to improve light and airflow. This can help optimize the balance between energy production in the leaves and energy allocation to the buds. In summary, tucking fan leaves can help ensure that both leaves and bud sites receive an appropriate amount of light and energy. It's about creating a balance that maximizes the overall health and yield of your cannabis plants. However, it's essential to be mindful of not overpruning or removing too many leaves, as this can stress the plant. The specific approach may also depend on the strain and individual plant's needs, so it's a good practice to monitor your plants and adjust your techniques as necessary during the different growth stages.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There is still almost no smell from the flowers. Is that normal at this point? Today is 22 days into flower and the strain guide says flowering time is 9-12 weeks (63-84 days.)
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 6 months ago
Don't be afraid to rub your fingers in and around buds n see if there is any smell. Also sometimes you scratch the stem slightly and you will get a hint of the profile, kinda like a scratch n sniff.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 5 months ago
How many more weeks before harvest? ILGM website says flowering is 9-12 weeks and I'm just about done with 7 weeks. I don't have great close-up photos of trichomes but when I look at them through a loupe I don't see any amber. Pistils now majority orange.
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 5 months ago
So grower cards are just there to give you an idea of how long your plants will generally take to flower. That being said, every Pheno is different and will finish at a different time depending on certain variables. Environment, nutrients etc. I would give her another week and keep checking your trichomes until you get your plant where you want her. Don't sacrifice your smoke! 30% amber is usually a good time to harvest.
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good mainlighting job buddy πŸ§‘β€πŸŒΎ
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Great haul πŸ’ͺ happy harvest bro πŸ‘
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@DFWmd, this is good the Blue Dreams strain apparently has some therapeutic qualities I hope she does the trick for you πŸ™
DFWmd
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@Mr_toetastic, Thanks so much! Way better than I'd hoped!
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great grow friend!! Keep on strong πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
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MeesterGweek 9
Monster stuff man! Keep doing your thing. They look gorgeous.
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@MeesterG, I'm so excited! Thanks for the support!
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Looking awesome man lovely job πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ”₯🌿
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Very nice workπŸβ€οΈπŸ’š
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@Lonelygrass, thanks so much!
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Looking good! Good luck futher onπŸ€
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She looks so healty, good luck buddy ☘️
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@DFWmd,πŸ’š
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@Lemonhazelover, thanks for your support!