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DFWmd DFWmd
5 months ago
Wednesday, December 6, 2023 (Day 99, 49 days into flower) - I have probably about 10-15 gallons of my current nutrient solution that I want to use up over the next day or two so I've increased fertigation time from 40 to 60 seconds. I then plan to switch to the Finish nutrients as per Jack's Nutrients nutrient schedule. When it's time to mix that, instead of 15-5-20 it will be 7-15-30 (~130 grams per 24 gallons but I may need twice that) and Epsom salt (~24 grams per 24 gallons but I may need twice that); EC goal remains 2.1 (plus background tap water EC.) The trichomes to me appear 10-20% cloudy but otherwise clear. I'm estimating 1-2 weeks until harvest. (Thank you Grow Question answerers for the feedback/guidance!) I dumped the last of the nutrient solution, cleaned the reservoirs, and mixed up the Finish solution as described above: 1. 24 gallons tap water (EC 0.396) 2. 60 mL Armor Si (then wait at least an hour) <-- used up the last of Armor Si; I don't plan to buy more for this grow. 3. 130 grams Jack's Nutrients 7-15-30 and 24 grams Epsom salt (I ended up using 260 grams and 48 grams to get close enough to the target EC...) [I didn't use Diamond Nectar because I haven't bought more and I consider it optional, particularly so close to harvest.] 4. 3/4 teaspoon Yucca ..... Check and adjust EC to goal of 2.1 + tap = 2.496. Actual result: _2.550_ ..... Adjust pH to 5.8-6.2. Actual result: _5.8_ 5. 60 mL H2O2 I adjusted the fertigation timing from 60 seconds back to 40 seconds. ----- Thursday, December 7, 2023 (Day 100, 50 days into flower) - Today will be the first full day of fertigation with the Finish formulation from Jack's Nutrients. I'd broken a couple of small branches that had bud a couple weeks ago and it's been curing in a Grove bag. I smoked some today and even though it was not fully developed or dried/cured ideally, the smoke was smooth and the effects feel good. I'm excited for how the actual harvest ends up! ----- Friday, December 8, 2023 (Day 101, 51 days into flower) - I'd say trichomes are 50-75% cloudy, the rest clear. ----- Saturday, December 9, 2023 (Day 102, 52 days into flower) - I need to get a trim tray and maybe micron mesh bags to extract hash from the trim via dry ice. ----- Sunday, December 10, 2023 (Day 103, 53 days into flower) - Yesterday, I ordered a trim tray that has a micron screen. Trichomes today look to be ~90% cloudy; I don't see any amber. I cut three small lower branches and hung up to dry. They won't be protected from reflected light (at least they're above the LED lights) and the humidity is ~50% and temp is ~70%, so not ideal dry conditions. I tried using the moisture meter and used Wood category C, which includes oak. (That's what the Grove customer service person said when I asked for guidance. They also said use the setting for the softest wood, which I wouldn't expect to be oak....) The meter read ~40% eyeball average, as the results varied based on where I put the prongs of the meter. I haven't trimmed even the big fan leaves in hopes that will slow the dry timeline. ----- Monday, December 11, 2023 (Day 104, 54 days into flower) - I'm reading about moisture meters today so hopefully I'll better judge which setting to use when testing harvested cannabis. When I put the pins in the stem and bud and do nothing other than switch the wood type, A is lowest at ~20% then it increases into the highest, D, at about 30%. From what I could find out, the softer woods show a higher reading compared to the harder woods, so if I should use the softest wood setting, I'd use D. I'll also pay attention to stem snapping vs bending, which is the more traditional way of figuring out when to start curing. Since my lowest temperature (presumably, with lights off, has been ~68 F, I'll probably need to increase humidity above 60% RH to try to slow down drying. Humidity has been ~45-55% lately. Looking at the trichomes today, I still don't see any for-sure amber and most still seem cloudy, although now more seem clear than I saw the last couple of days. Maybe more trichomes being made? Almost out of this batch of nutrient solution so will be making a new batch tomorrow morning or so; that might be the penultimate and possibly the final batch before harvest! ----- Tuesday, December 12, 2023 (Day 105, 55 days into flower) - Still no amber trichomes. Some of the leaves are showing yellowing which may be just because the plant is toward the end of its life cycle; of course, it may also be a problem but I'm so close to harvest I'm not going to change anything. Made a new batch of nutrient solution: 1. 24 gallons tap water (EC 0.382) [All out of Armor Si so none in this batch.] 3. 130 grams Jack's Nutrients 7-15-30 and 24 grams Epsom salt (I ended up using 261 grams and 54 grams to get close enough to the target EC...) [All out of Diamond Nectar so none in this batch.] 4. 3/4 teaspoon Yucca ..... Check and adjust EC to goal of 2.1 + tap = 2.482. Actual result: _2.476_ ..... Adjust pH to 5.8-6.2. Actual result: _5.9_ 5. 60 mL H2O2 ----- END OF 15TH WEEK FROM SEED
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Grow Questions
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
Finishing up the topping portion of mainlining. P2 to be Nebula-Haze style and P3 to be Nugbuckets style. I'll be trimming growth tips other than from the 8 cola sites on each. Still keep un-shaded fan leaves below those levels? A lot online shows all lower fan leaves trimmed
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thedoe
thedoeanswered grow question 7 months ago
if the 8 growth shoots are ready to ride solo, you could remove the leaves if you cant tuck them. by that I mean they are developed and are already working on their 2nd node or so, if theyre too small it makes no sense. check out my grow; I had the same idea for 8 tops! same guide mine is probably not as bushy but youll get the idea. especially if youre not limited on time then it will recover regardless. just faster if they are ready to grow without need of those big fanleaves.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
I'm unsure about trimming/defoliation at this point: What's the goal for just before switching to 12/12? I've read to veg until your height is 1/2 to 1/3 the final height supported by the setup. I seem to have plenty of room still. How much do I trim under the canopy?
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mcflow
mcflowanswered grow question 7 months ago
if you're just before the switch to the flowering stage (12/12), focus on the following specifics: Undercanopy Trimming: Trim the lower branches and leaves that won't receive much light in the flowering stage. This directs energy to the top canopy. Remove Large Fan Leaves: Take out any large fan leaves that are shading potential bud sites in the lower and inner parts of the plant. Maintain Airflow: Ensure good airflow by removing excess foliage in the undercanopy. This helps prevent humidity-related issues. Avoid Over-Pruning: Be cautious not to over-prune, as you still want the plant to have enough foliage for photosynthesis and energy production. Top Canopy Focus: Concentrate on opening up the top canopy to allow light penetration and airflow for the main bud sites. Remember, the idea is to strike a balance between removing excess foliage and maintaining enough leaves for the plant's overall health. Keep an eye on how the plant responds and adjust accordingly.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
It's been 15 days since flipping from veg to 12/12. Am I done training to keep the canopy flat? The goal is basically to optimize flower development at this point, right? Tucking tall branches at this point would be counterproductive, right? (Unless too close to lights?)
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 6 months ago
People tend to let their plants go a bit more during the stretch but it's largely dependent on how much headroom you have with your lights. Like you mentioned, you're still gonna want to address areas that are outpacing the rest and growing into your light's "hotzone". Maybe not tucking branches, but super cropping is handy to level out colas.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There are a few colas that are much higher than the rest. Do I supercrop those? Just squeeze the stem and flop them over to canopy height? That makes me nervous...
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 6 months ago
If you are nervous about super-cropping then just tie it down...
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
Advice seems to be to tuck fan leaves so bud sites get more light. But don't plants work by light first going to leaves which send energy to flowers? A plant with leaves in shade and bud sites in light would do WORSE than v/v, right?
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Stickyone
Stickyoneanswered grow question 6 months ago
Tucking fan leaves in cannabis cultivation is a technique used to optimize light distribution and penetration within the canopy. While it may seem counterintuitive at first, tucking or removing some fan leaves can be beneficial for several reasons: Light Distribution: By tucking or removing fan leaves that are shading bud sites, you can ensure that more light reaches the lower parts of the plant where the potential bud sites are. This can help improve the overall yield and quality of your harvest. Air Circulation: Tucking leaves can also improve airflow within the canopy, reducing the risk of mold and mildew development, as well as promoting better overall plant health. Energy Allocation: Cannabis plants do require light for photosynthesis, which takes place primarily in the leaves. However, once energy is produced through photosynthesis, it is transported to different parts of the plant, including the flowers (buds). Tucking leaves doesn't stop the photosynthesis process; it redirects the energy flow to the areas that need it most, which are the developing buds. Pruning Strategy: Tucking fan leaves is often part of a broader pruning strategy that also includes selectively removing some leaves to improve light and airflow. This can help optimize the balance between energy production in the leaves and energy allocation to the buds. In summary, tucking fan leaves can help ensure that both leaves and bud sites receive an appropriate amount of light and energy. It's about creating a balance that maximizes the overall health and yield of your cannabis plants. However, it's essential to be mindful of not overpruning or removing too many leaves, as this can stress the plant. The specific approach may also depend on the strain and individual plant's needs, so it's a good practice to monitor your plants and adjust your techniques as necessary during the different growth stages.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There is still almost no smell from the flowers. Is that normal at this point? Today is 22 days into flower and the strain guide says flowering time is 9-12 weeks (63-84 days.)
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 6 months ago
Don't be afraid to rub your fingers in and around buds n see if there is any smell. Also sometimes you scratch the stem slightly and you will get a hint of the profile, kinda like a scratch n sniff.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 5 months ago
How many more weeks before harvest? ILGM website says flowering is 9-12 weeks and I'm just about done with 7 weeks. I don't have great close-up photos of trichomes but when I look at them through a loupe I don't see any amber. Pistils now majority orange.
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 5 months ago
So grower cards are just there to give you an idea of how long your plants will generally take to flower. That being said, every Pheno is different and will finish at a different time depending on certain variables. Environment, nutrients etc. I would give her another week and keep checking your trichomes until you get your plant where you want her. Don't sacrifice your smoke! 30% amber is usually a good time to harvest.
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Great haul πŸ’ͺ happy harvest bro πŸ‘
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@DFWmd, this is good the Blue Dreams strain apparently has some therapeutic qualities I hope she does the trick for you πŸ™
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@Mr_toetastic, Thanks so much! Way better than I'd hoped!
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great grow friend!! Keep on strong πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
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Monster stuff man! Keep doing your thing. They look gorgeous.
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@MeesterG, I'm so excited! Thanks for the support!
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@Lonelygrass, thanks so much!
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She looks so healty, good luck buddy ☘️
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@Lemonhazelover, thanks for your support!