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DFWmd DFWmd
6 months ago
Wednesday, Oct 25 (Day 57) - finishing up the first week of 12/12. I've been using a Bloom nutrient solution and the last couple of days there have been some discoloration-- first, slight yellowing of the edges of the leaves up toward the light of Plant 3. I raised the lights, decreased the power some, then increased the power but kept it farther away. Today, I noticed a few leaves have some yellow mottling, too. (I've asked a second grow question just now for feedback, but based on the first grow question's answers, it's likely related to the Bloom nutrient solution, which I'll be switching back tomorrow to the main Flower nutrient solution (which is the same as the Vegetative nutrient solution). Hopefully, everything will settle down within the next few days. I'll update details in tomorrow's comments and also update the Nutrients, above, with the details of the new nutrient batch. Grow Techniques-wise, I've Mainlined/Manifolded which involves topping and LST and HST (via supercropping) and defoliated, but this week I'm basically just letting growth continue. My plan is to trim the bottom 3rd of the plant at the end of week 3 of flower. I keep reading mixed messages regarding defoliating during flower-- some say keep all the leaves because they're what power the plant via light and will therefore allow more flower growth... and some say it's best to get rid of at least the biggest fan leaves because the light needs to reach the bud sites (?) I understand the need to ensure good air flow to prevent mold. Feel free to add your thoughts about it but please include your reasoning. ----- Thursday, Oct 26 (Day 58) - Dumped the remaining Bloom fertigation solution and made up a new batch. The Bloom was there the first week only of 12/12, as recommended by Jack's Nutrients. Now, back to the same combination from vegetative growth using 15-5-20: 1. 24 gallons tap water (EC 0.418) 2. 60 mL Armor Si (then wait at least an hour) 3. 121 grams Jack's Nutrients 15-5-20 and 24 grams Epsom salt (I ended up needing 182 grams and 36 grams to get close enough to the target EC...) 4. 120 mL General Hydroponics Diamond Nectar. 5. 3/4 teaspoon Yucca ..... Check and adjust EC to goal of 2.1 + tap = 2.518. Actual result: _2.416_ ..... Adjust pH to 5.8-6.2. Actual result: _5.9_ 6. 60 mL H2O2 I put up a trellis today to help with supporting buds and evening out the canopy. Ended up kind of accidentally supercropping a few spots.... And also: first clear pistils noticed! And also, also, see two most recent Grow Questions for information about what I hope has been mild S deficiency; pics above, too. ----- Friday, Oct 27 (Day 59) - Plants seem good overall. I'm not sure if setting up the trellis has more pros than cons. Pros would be more support for colas and maybe broader, flatter canopy and maybe easier to decide on what to trim/lollipop. Cons would be if the trauma and LST and accidental supercropping involved with getting the trellis in place, etc, ends up delaying some growth/development of the plants. I'm probably going to buy a small dehumidifier for the grow tent. First step is to be more diligent about vacuuming out the run-off from the fertigation. But I still think humidity will be no lower than 50-60% without a dehumidifier. I'm looking online and have it narrowed down to a few options, ranging from $45-80. Anyone have any recommendations? ----- Saturday, Oct 28 (Day 60) - pretty unremarkable day. ----- Sunday, Oct 29 (Day 61) - more remarkable of a day: cat chewed on line from bucket reservoir into tent and it leaked during fertigation at least at 0900 this morning, maybe at 2400 the night before. Not a ton of nutrient solution was lost. I was able to trim off that section and shift the valve which also pushed the bucket reservoir right up against the tent. Hopefully, no more chewing at this point. Then... I noticed after the 1800 fertigation that the bucket reservoir was empty even though I'd just filled it that morning. My guess is losing that slack in the line changed it so a siphon was created. I filled the bucket again and poked a hole at the top of the line on the inside of the bucket to prevent a siphon hopefully. We'll see.... Also, I sprinkled a little extra Epsom salt in my big tote reservoir in case it might help with any sulfur deficiency. Still just a bit of yellow mottling on a few of the newer leaves. I'm verifying pH is how it should be. The siphon I discussed above was effectively a flushing. ----- Monday, Oct 30 (Day 62) - I figured out that it wasn't siphoning going on. Somehow, I'd messed up the timer, seemingly copying the 5 minute mixing pump schedule to the fertigation pump outlet. So, instead of 30 seconds it was running 5 minutes. For a couple of hours, I also had messed up the AC Infinity fan controller settings, so it really hot in the tent. I fixed both issues. The fan controller I set so it'd keep the temp and humidity lower and that's working, so I no longer think I need a dehumidifier. That's good news, at least! I made another batch of fertigation solution: 1. 24 gallons tap water (EC 0.426) 2. 60 mL Armor Si (then wait at least an hour) 3. 121 grams Jack's Nutrients 15-5-20 and 24 grams Epsom salt (I ended up needing 182 grams and 36 grams to get close enough to the target EC...) 4. 120 mL General Hydroponics Diamond Nectar. 5. 3/4 teaspoon Yucca ..... Check and adjust EC to goal of 2.1 + tap = 2.518. Actual result: _2.516_ ..... Adjust pH to 5.8-6.2. Actual result: _5.9_ 6. 60 mL H2O2 A few leaves have nine fingers; see pic above of a nice example. ----- Tuesday, Oct 31 (Day 63) - Happy Halloween! Today, everything seems to be working fine. I tucked a couple of the taller branches to try to keep canopy even. More pistils noticeable. ----- END OF 9TH WEEK FROM SEED
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Grow Questions
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
Finishing up the topping portion of mainlining. P2 to be Nebula-Haze style and P3 to be Nugbuckets style. I'll be trimming growth tips other than from the 8 cola sites on each. Still keep un-shaded fan leaves below those levels? A lot online shows all lower fan leaves trimmed
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thedoe
thedoeanswered grow question 7 months ago
if the 8 growth shoots are ready to ride solo, you could remove the leaves if you cant tuck them. by that I mean they are developed and are already working on their 2nd node or so, if theyre too small it makes no sense. check out my grow; I had the same idea for 8 tops! same guide mine is probably not as bushy but youll get the idea. especially if youre not limited on time then it will recover regardless. just faster if they are ready to grow without need of those big fanleaves.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
I'm unsure about trimming/defoliation at this point: What's the goal for just before switching to 12/12? I've read to veg until your height is 1/2 to 1/3 the final height supported by the setup. I seem to have plenty of room still. How much do I trim under the canopy?
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mcflow
mcflowanswered grow question 7 months ago
if you're just before the switch to the flowering stage (12/12), focus on the following specifics: Undercanopy Trimming: Trim the lower branches and leaves that won't receive much light in the flowering stage. This directs energy to the top canopy. Remove Large Fan Leaves: Take out any large fan leaves that are shading potential bud sites in the lower and inner parts of the plant. Maintain Airflow: Ensure good airflow by removing excess foliage in the undercanopy. This helps prevent humidity-related issues. Avoid Over-Pruning: Be cautious not to over-prune, as you still want the plant to have enough foliage for photosynthesis and energy production. Top Canopy Focus: Concentrate on opening up the top canopy to allow light penetration and airflow for the main bud sites. Remember, the idea is to strike a balance between removing excess foliage and maintaining enough leaves for the plant's overall health. Keep an eye on how the plant responds and adjust accordingly.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
It's been 15 days since flipping from veg to 12/12. Am I done training to keep the canopy flat? The goal is basically to optimize flower development at this point, right? Tucking tall branches at this point would be counterproductive, right? (Unless too close to lights?)
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 6 months ago
People tend to let their plants go a bit more during the stretch but it's largely dependent on how much headroom you have with your lights. Like you mentioned, you're still gonna want to address areas that are outpacing the rest and growing into your light's "hotzone". Maybe not tucking branches, but super cropping is handy to level out colas.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There are a few colas that are much higher than the rest. Do I supercrop those? Just squeeze the stem and flop them over to canopy height? That makes me nervous...
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 6 months ago
If you are nervous about super-cropping then just tie it down...
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
Advice seems to be to tuck fan leaves so bud sites get more light. But don't plants work by light first going to leaves which send energy to flowers? A plant with leaves in shade and bud sites in light would do WORSE than v/v, right?
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Stickyone
Stickyoneanswered grow question 6 months ago
Tucking fan leaves in cannabis cultivation is a technique used to optimize light distribution and penetration within the canopy. While it may seem counterintuitive at first, tucking or removing some fan leaves can be beneficial for several reasons: Light Distribution: By tucking or removing fan leaves that are shading bud sites, you can ensure that more light reaches the lower parts of the plant where the potential bud sites are. This can help improve the overall yield and quality of your harvest. Air Circulation: Tucking leaves can also improve airflow within the canopy, reducing the risk of mold and mildew development, as well as promoting better overall plant health. Energy Allocation: Cannabis plants do require light for photosynthesis, which takes place primarily in the leaves. However, once energy is produced through photosynthesis, it is transported to different parts of the plant, including the flowers (buds). Tucking leaves doesn't stop the photosynthesis process; it redirects the energy flow to the areas that need it most, which are the developing buds. Pruning Strategy: Tucking fan leaves is often part of a broader pruning strategy that also includes selectively removing some leaves to improve light and airflow. This can help optimize the balance between energy production in the leaves and energy allocation to the buds. In summary, tucking fan leaves can help ensure that both leaves and bud sites receive an appropriate amount of light and energy. It's about creating a balance that maximizes the overall health and yield of your cannabis plants. However, it's essential to be mindful of not overpruning or removing too many leaves, as this can stress the plant. The specific approach may also depend on the strain and individual plant's needs, so it's a good practice to monitor your plants and adjust your techniques as necessary during the different growth stages.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There is still almost no smell from the flowers. Is that normal at this point? Today is 22 days into flower and the strain guide says flowering time is 9-12 weeks (63-84 days.)
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 6 months ago
Don't be afraid to rub your fingers in and around buds n see if there is any smell. Also sometimes you scratch the stem slightly and you will get a hint of the profile, kinda like a scratch n sniff.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 5 months ago
How many more weeks before harvest? ILGM website says flowering is 9-12 weeks and I'm just about done with 7 weeks. I don't have great close-up photos of trichomes but when I look at them through a loupe I don't see any amber. Pistils now majority orange.
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 5 months ago
So grower cards are just there to give you an idea of how long your plants will generally take to flower. That being said, every Pheno is different and will finish at a different time depending on certain variables. Environment, nutrients etc. I would give her another week and keep checking your trichomes until you get your plant where you want her. Don't sacrifice your smoke! 30% amber is usually a good time to harvest.
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@Mr_toetastic, Thanks so much! Way better than I'd hoped!
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@MeesterG, I'm so excited! Thanks for the support!
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@Lemonhazelover, thanks for your support!