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RS11
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 3-7, 10
Defoliation
weeks 5-6
ScrOG
weeks 8-12
Soil
Grow medium
Grow Conditions
Week 16
Flowering
52
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inch
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
11+ conditions after
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Nutrients
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ml/gal
tsp/gal
420flow bloom
2.7 ml/l
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2 ml/l
Calmag - BioBizz
Calmag
0.8 mll
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ultra_violet ultra_violet
3 days ago
d106: +4l water+nutes (lower concentration this time)
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Grow Questions
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 3 months ago
Should I replant her into a bigger pot (5 gal) at some point and if so, when? Won't it be too much stress together with LST? Another questions: aren't the spaces between the nods too short? Should it be like this? It looks quite dense.
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BusyBeeFarmer
BusyBeeFarmeranswered grow question 3 months ago
You can definitely replant her into a bigger pot (like a 5-gallon one), but timing is key to minimize stress. A good rule of thumb is to check for roots peeking out from the drainage holes at the bottom of the current pot. If you don’t see any roots yet, there’s usually no need to transplant just yet. Regarding LST (Low Stress Training), you can still do it after transplanting, but give the plant a few days to adjust before applying any additional stress. As for the node spacing, dense and short internodes can be a sign of good light conditions, so it’s generally not a problem.
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 3 months ago
Is it okay that the side buds below the main point of growth don't get that much light because of the big leaves above blocking the light? I think defoliation at this stage means too much stress and I should probably just watch it develop further and continue LST. Am I right?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 3 months ago
Don't defoliate! ALL of the plants energy to grow and thrive is made by/in the leaves. Less leaves = less energy being made = less potential growth..............it is that simple. Besides, light spectra we humans can not see will actually penetrate upper leaves and strike so called "shaded" leaves underneath, making defoilation pointless. Defoliating such a small plant would severely reduce its ability to make enough energy to grow as fast and big as possible.
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 3 months ago
The tips of the leaves are getting yellow. What does it mean? And what can I do about it? I just replanted her a day ago. No nutes since then and not much before that either. I attach two photos: the first taken today and the second - last week.
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 3 months ago
Thats root-bound signs. Also if it was in a smaller pot as you said. Its intake of water would be high within a short time which can also give those tips
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 3 months ago
The leaves have been looking drooping for a few days (since I replanted it), in the evening (photo 1) usually a bit more than in the morning (photos 2-3). What could be the reason and what can I do about it? Overwatering, underwatering, stress after replanting, light issues?
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Leaves. Wilting
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modmyplants
modmyplantsanswered grow question 3 months ago
If nothing changed in your bahviour its probably just stress from replanting. if the earth didnt stay as a cube; roots and definetly microroots broke and the plant is stressed for few days. Good luck with it
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 2 months ago
Is it the right time to install trellis net and flip her to flower? It's day 43, she is 23cm tall (the highest point), looks well-trained already with many branches. Should I defoliate before flipping?
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Other. General questions
Techniques. Defoliation
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001100010010011110answered grow question 2 months ago
if you use a trellis for only support, you still have time.. figure about half way up the future vertical growth is good for support. If used to help train the plant horizontally, put it on now or even before this point in future grows. Defoliation is not wise. Selectively pruning is fine. Always have a reason to remove a leaf. They do several important things for the plant - light absorption, molecule production/building, and they are the lungs. So, if you dont want to reduce the limiting factor of CO2 intake, don't blindly remove a bunch of leaves thinking it helps.... There''s a chance you delay flower due to the stress of it, too. Read "to defoliate or not..." on cocoforcannabis.com. the guides and posts in dr photons corner will help you avoid numerous urban myths/bro-science nonsense.
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 2 months ago
Should I defoliate/prune to ensure better ventilation? I am going to flip the plant soon. It is quite bushy with big leaves and sometimes it is difficult to water it as there are a lot of leaves down there. And when is it better to put the net? Before of after the flip?
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Techniques. ScrOG
Techniques. Defoliation
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001100010010011110
001100010010011110answered grow question 2 months ago
maybe some overlapping leaves that cause condensation / standing water would be wise. just be selective. Leaves do several important things including the 'lungs' of the plant. you should never take off so many that it'd cause a stress reaction. really shouldn't be an issue as to when you remove a limited number, as few as possible, leaves. if you think there is a risk of mold or infection, don't wait. The plant won't react adversely to a small percent of pruned leaves.
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 2 months ago
When is it better to lollipop if at all? I just flipped her two days ago and she started growing a bit faster. And looks quite bushy down there. Should I do it now before she started growing buds? Or should I wait a bit? Or no need to do that at all?
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 2 months ago
It's your first grow. Best advice is to keep it as simple as possible. Hubris of man is to think we know better than nature itself. Observe how the plant defoliates itself. In the future you use that experience to preemptively defoliate that which you know will be of little to no use come later in flower. Over explaining everything only serves to confuse. I guarantee any defoliation you do now will only lead to detriment. She looks healthy and happy and I'm impressed with your first grow well done. No need whatsoever. Most people stress their plants so much in the early days, 6-7 weeks of growth and plant has mass of a 2 week old grown with 0 stress.
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 2 months ago
Is it okay that the new growth is of such bright green (almost yellow at the base) color? Is it because of the fast growth or am I doing something wrong?
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Leaves. Color - Pale
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Shinsimilla
Shinsimillaanswered grow question 2 months ago
Kinda the same way that a babies skin isn't the same as a 50yr old man's. It is more obvious in the morning/before lights on. The growth that happened in the dark hasn't seen light yet and hasn't started to photosynthesize yet. Nothing to worry about, it's a sign she's very happy.
ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question a month ago
I noticed that some leaves (mostly lower ones) are getting yellow and also have some spots. Eventually they degrade. Is it normal (4th week of bloom) or is it an indicator that something is wrong (deficiencies, nutrient burn, not enough light?)
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question a month ago
I find this happens when over watering has been a thing and some root rot or some weird growth in the root zones is happening. Might need to amend with more perlite next time or dial in your watering habits. The yellowing of the lower older growth also does seem like it is not getting enough N. But the leaves should not be burning, twisting and collapsing into a thin folded blade. if all it was is N they just yellow nothing else. that is a key indicator to me its root issues maybe rot. Some of the spotting does look like PH but I would expect to see that on the whole plant not just some of the lower leaves.
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RickSanchez
RickSanchezanswered grow question a month ago
looks like normal, because the are not getting direct light (: would not worry! adjust ph to 6.4 and feed some N 🌱💚
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GrowerOG
GrowerOGanswered grow question a month ago
Hello mate, you have an issue with Ca/Mg caused by a pH fluctuation or a misfeeding of Calmag product. The first cause is often link to the rate of Ca/Mg in the water used to watering the plant, if you use organic feeding you must have the rigth rate of these nutrient that is 3/1 or 4/1. Good luck and happy journey!
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ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question a month ago
The highest and main cola has a couple of leaves with such strangely-coloured tips and edges. Is it a sign of light or nutrient burn? The weird thing is that only one cola has it so far and just a few leaves on it, not even all of them. She is on her 4th week of flowering.
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Leaves. Edges burnt
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Kenn0rphan
Kenn0rphananswered grow question a month ago
Hello There- I would adjust your watering schedule. Frequent, small waterings cause root issues and lots of nute buildup in the soil. I think most of the problems you've seen on your plant in your diary are related to watering. For a 5 gallon pot, you should be watering (IMO) 1+gallon (or 4liters) at a time and then at least 3-4 days before the next watering. Of course...have to pay attention to the plant. Some get very thirsty.
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001100010010011110
001100010010011110answered grow question a month ago
More than one thing can cause that, so you're best seeing how it progresses. If mindflowers is right, that's either genetics cooler temperatures (68F or below) occurring at some point in daily cycle. If it's definitely red/purple coloring, then it's just genetics / cool temps. They look black to me, but photos are deceiving.
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MindFlowers68
MindFlowers68answered grow question a month ago
Looks like anthocyanins starting to color the leaf to me. Watching those plants like a hawk. as you should. looking good
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ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question a month ago
Yellowing is progressing so far, I also can see brown spots on the leaves. What is the best course of action? Does it look like overwatering, nutrient burn or deficiency? I will water more but less frequently. Should I use water without nutes to be on the safe side?
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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RickSanchez
RickSanchezanswered grow question a month ago
no light = dead leaf solution = lollipopping 💚
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BlocZ
BlocZanswered grow question a month ago
The plant puts in the lower leaves that it is ready to sacrifice toxic elements or overdosed elements. Mineral fertilizers can cause this effect by forcing the plant to assimilate them even if it does not need them. It's normal so, there's no need to panic, the plant protects itself and manages the elements it accepts and those it rejects. 😉✌️
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001100010010011110
001100010010011110answered grow question a month ago
The 'red' i see may also be a camera illusion.. if you don't see reds or purples with your eye, nevermind.
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ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 7 days ago
Is it normal that the leaves have this weird blackish slightly metallic colour?
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Leaves. Color - Black or grey
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BerrySweetHigh
BerrySweetHighanswered grow question 6 days ago
High ultra_violet, There are a few signs from overfeeding and nutrient lockout. But you are almost ready for harvest so I would not do too much about it. You will harm more with trying to fix it then just let them ripen for the last 2 weeks. Happy growing and happy harvest buddy!
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 7 days ago
https://420life.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marijuana-Leaf-Deficiency-Chart-scaled.jpg Kinda looks like a P issue. But your also almost done so could be a bit of fade? Also the feed has lots of P in it so it should not be deficient at all. Bloom 4ml 12-36-12 / Boost 3ml 9-10-38 = 10.7-24.8-23.0 NPK ratio. Ton of P. almost to much. Your suggested feeding for the nutrients used is here : https://420flow.de/cdn/shop/files/FINAL_V2.png?v=1713467798&width=1000 This is also a good tool. https://www.nutriag.com/wp-content/uploads/mulders-chart.jpg Its shows high P requires High Mg as well and can make issues with Ca. I would monitor the EC of the solution and back off some of the feeds as it nearing end of life. Also do any of them feeds say their micro content? Eg. Fe, Cu, Zn, Mo, Mb,?? Also you are getting a good amount of runoff when feeding them yes? if not it could be a build up casing issues.
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LSchnabel
LSchnabelanswered grow question 7 days ago
It is absolutely normal for late stage flower to develop dark colors in the leaf. A lot of places are actually breeding that into the plant because it’s turned into a desirable look. I did a quick search for the RS11 plant and it looks like the majority of all the end of flower plants have a very dark purple leaf. I would say you are right on track and keep doing what you are doing. It should turn some lovely color by the time you are ready to harvest. Hope this helps.
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ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 3 hours ago
When will it be the right time to harvest it? It's almost the end of the flowering week 9. I can already see some yellowish trichomes. Another question: is it better to trim it before drying or after?
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 2 hours ago
Make sure you don't let the soil dry up. Any minor NPK needed will be taken from the leaves.
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 2 hours ago
Hmmmm. You're in ripening so as I said I in my other reply to your leaf issue. Lower your light strength and you can even higher it and it'll help ripen a larger surface area. 30cm away is for heavy floweinh you should be using 80% and dropping it so as this stage I'd say drop it to 60% and higher it a bit.
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BerrySweetHigh
BerrySweetHighanswered grow question 3 hours ago
High ultra_violet, No it is not ready yet you should wait another week if you want to harvest the plant at her most potent. The orange trichomes you see are not on the buds but on the leaves. They are orange waaay before the buds. I personally like to trim from the moment I chop the plant. The cutting is just easier then when you let it dry first and you prevent mold a lot better when you cut before drying because the moist can escape a lot better. Happy Harvest Buddy! 💚
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ultra_violet
ultra_violetstarted grow question 3 hours ago
Some sugar leaves on the biggest bud look strange (I've noticed it today): curled and a bit twisted and the colour has slightly yellowish shade. I cannot understand why. Is it getting dry? Does it start decaying? Does it get too much light? Does it get moldy? What should I do?
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Leaves. Curl up
Leaves. Curl down
Leaves. Twisted
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Hashy
Hashyanswered grow question 2 hours ago
Yeah as others say, it's getting to end of life stages. Just carry on as you are for the final few weeks.
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 2 hours ago
This is just growing stresses. For it's stage there's no point in saying anything about defs/toxs. As at this point. You're in your final days If you've a loop or Marcocam. Look for mainly cloudy trichomes. If you see amber in spots. It shows its fully ripened. Your buds are HUGE. as your in ripening now. Less light is needed. Lower your light to 75%- % of its main power used and keep lowering it the more it ripens. Ppl use less hours also. But them folded leaves are signs of stress from too much light. But, as I said.with the stage your in just push on and as things are, they can't be changed. You got good buds, so 99% the chances are the quality will match what you're seeking from the strains in
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BerrySweetHigh
BerrySweetHighanswered grow question 3 hours ago
High ultra_violet, othing to worry about buddy she is almost (1 more week) ready for harvest! Happy Harvest Buddy! 💚
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Butrub
Butrubweek 8
It looks perfect mate, just keep tucking the big leaves and you can lower net bit to get more separation to coalas as they grow.
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbweek 11
Wow, nice! This looks fantastic. Happy that I looked at your page. I just started 2 new diaries come by if you have time over, would be fun. 👨🏽‍🌾🤩
Scippybaby
Scippybabyweek 4
Put them in large fabric pots, use bio roots to grow big roots. Maybe you should use coco coir. I would use it with the root inoculation to grow bigger roots and grow. But for now use 3 gallons fabrics until flower then transfer but make sure you use the root grow stuff.
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ultra_violet
@Scippybaby, I only have 5 gallons fabrics. Will they also do? And I think I will keep using soil for now, don't want to change so much, as I'm a first-time grower and only learning the basics. I am using root juice, so will keep doing it when transfer the plant.
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