Dutch Passion Auto Critical Orange Punch grow diary (journal) week5 by Quexos

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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 76 years ago

cut out the veg nutes and stop defoliating, switch to flower nutes and pray

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@CRiSPrGrow, I gave it another week. There is still little change. I only used Recharge and no nutes at all. I'll just use plain water for a week or so and see if that helps. I can't completely stop defoliating. This strain puts out so many fat leaves, it shades everything above it. I'll try to keep it at a minimum if I can. Raising the light has had little effect on height either. Thanks for the ideas. Worse comes to worse, I can transplant into a larger pot, and treat her like a photo. The auto tent will be open in a few weeks.

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, I've never had any deficiencies in my grow before. I'm using a new brand of nutes though. I also switched soils, so who knows. Yeah, I don't want to haul that plant out of the tent every morning. I keep saying, "Give it one more week!"

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, I can appreciate that for sure. If it helps u make up your mind I’m actually the opposite with my feedings and switch to my bloom cycle of nutes the same week I flip the light sched. So far no deficiencies at all really. It follows botanicares recommended schedule too but every nute co. Will be a little different obviously. Whatever you do decide I’m hoping u won’t have to haul it in and out every damn day for 2 months - that would suck.

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 56 years ago

Didn’t realize you had a recent upgrade and congrats! Lookn forward to my own in short order as well. Grows lookn good buddy👍. Question - you always grow with soil?

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, 100% full recommendation - resilient and easy to grow IMO👍

Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, Ack! Now its in writing! I havent grown enough yet to know my favorite strain. I really like to buy diesel strains, but I haven't grown any yet. Soon! I have some auto diesel seeds coming from a breeder in the U.S. I'm really excited.

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, lol! Yeah she shot down the home brew idea right quick cuz I woulda done exactly that! Lol. And I agree whole heartedly - I have some staple strains (northern lights & diesel) but try to grow something different every grow as well. Gotta keep “diversifying” so to speak. As far as the light is concerned - the price is the other thing she doesn’t know... 😉👍

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ChainsawSantacommentedweek 126 years ago

Very nice plant you've got there! Super interested to see how she finishes up :)

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@ChainsawSanta, Thanks a bunch! Other than not being an auto, she has been a dream to grow.

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ChainsawSantacommented6 years ago

@Quexos,Interesting, well whatever she ends up being shes absolutely gorgeous. Very nice job taking care of her with that surprise twist haha!

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@ChainsawSanta, No idea really. This seed was a freebie from Seedsman. It was labelled auto. I contacted Dutch Passion and they said it HAD to be mislabelled. They said there was zero chance it was one of their autos. I guess it could be the photo version.

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 96 years ago

Dude - I really like the compromise for moving to flower👍. Probably the best option I have and maybe you end up just crushing the yield count on this grow🤞🤞🤞

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, Experience is key! I've only been growing for a year now. This will be my 4th and 5th grow. Every time I start, I think I have it dialed in for the perfect grow. But then you get snow storms, variegated leaves, autos that aren't, etc.. Keeps it interesting I guess.

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, pretty much yeah. But only because we often forget we’re growing life at the end of the day. Sometimes it’s just what it is. I was chatting with a dude the other day about germ. Rates - we were both sitting at like 99% and then all of a sudden you go on a streak where like 75% don’t even pop... WTF?!?! That’s life I guess😂. Shit I’m dealing with it right now lol

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, This is the first time I've run into anything like this. I've had some plants take forever to show true flowers, but never an auto not auto! The longer I grow the more often these weird things are going to happen I guess.

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 66 years ago

Where is is this mystical variegation u speak of? Gotta see it dude - can u snap a pic of it?

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, The only info I've been able to find is that this is an XXL seed. I would imagine that a high yielding plant might take longer to develop before it flips. You make a good point about genetics though. I just got some free seeds from Fastbuds. They are an AK47 style strain. supposedly they are the same way. They take a long time to flower, and they grow out of the tent! I had heard that about a lot of Pineapple Express. They are kinda wild!

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, hear that and no worries. And I’ve seen this issue with autos before too. Pretty sure it was @dunkjunk Pineapple Express grow. Check it out and it might give u a timeline if ya got the same thing. Could just be that the ruderalis trait is weak or non-existent in er. No way to really know until she flowers.... or doesn’t. 🤔 his grow was messed up, And the results were ridonk!

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer,I know that in other plants its an adaptation to light. I had never seen it in plants.I wasn't worried at first, but I was reading one of the cannabis newsletters and they were talking about some sort of tobacco mosaic virus and it freaked me out. I'm not really worried anymore though. The only symptom is the variegation and that is probably genetic. I'm a little more concerned about this plant not going into flower. She will be 7 weeks this Friday and I am not seeing any pre-flowering at all. I can force flip her, but it would require me to pull her out of the tent daily and put her in a dark closet. I'm going to wait until the 7 week mark then maybe make a decision. Hey, thanks for looking at the photos. Always good to have another set of eyes.

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 196 years ago

And we finally arrive at the end! Lol. She’s meaty buddy, good luck with the chop👍😎👌💪

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, that’s probably a better guesstimate than 8 regardless. It always seems somewhere around those weeks. Unless ur growing the grin - that strain is straight up fucked!

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, I used to go with the idea of a 10 week flowering period, but that doesn't work anymore.

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, meh - I don’t really pay much attention to the weeks anymore. Anything around the 8 week mark seems about right and she finishes when she finishes. Ur about to be significantly rewarded for that extra veg. Time though - fo sho!

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 116 years ago

I’m hoping to have this veg. Problem on my hydro grow. Damn root rot cost me a whole week of growth and I’m freakn she’s gonna be stunted. It could always be worse and this thing will be a behemoth👍. Ur gonna rival some of the longest diaries on this site! Lol

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, you bet. 4 plant limit per property here so I’ll be running two on the back deck and 2 under the cobs (probably with a little cycle overlap to keep things steady😉). That said, I’ve also got access to another property and will be running at least a couple more over there too. My indoor space is the prime real estate now though - safest, most controllable and no access for anyone other than me and the misses👍

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, You have outdoor season coming up right? Are you going to run outdoors and under the COBs? I might be able to put a small auto in a pot outside. I worry about neighbors and meter readers.

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, dude tell me about it. I have the exact same problem only with photos. Tried to sneak in an auto run before spring, ran into germ. Issues, now root rot and now I’m a month behind on a photo cycle for humbolt and spliff seeds😡. Only good news is that the new space and cobs are up and running👍. We’re behind on the grow list but the next runs are gonna be better than ever!

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 156 years ago

That twelve week veg. Is nuts dude - hope she pays off with a monster harvest. Lookn good👍😎👌

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, Yeah, she was certainly a problem child. She had all sorts of problems early on. There was the variegated leave thing. Then she started showing a lot of yellowing. Cal-Mag seemed to solve all of those problems though and she is super healthy looking. I ended up contacting Dutch Passion. They said to treat it like a photo since it was probably mis-labelled. They also said there was zero chance that it was an auto since it didn't flower on its own.

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos,yeah mon - those 5-8 secondary’s will make all the difference IMO. Bet ur just happy that she actually/finally flowered! 😂😂😂

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, I really think she will produce. She has at least 5 major bud stalks going. There are another 5-8 secondary stalks that are right behind the top ones n development.

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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 96 years ago

looks like flowering to me bro, let s see if she decides to become and auto monster after all

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@CRiSPrGrow, I guess. Its never happened to me, but I haven't been growing that long. I think its more likely the seed was not an auto. You are right though. "That's the way the genetics crumble!"

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CRiSPrGrowcommented6 years ago

@Quexos, these things happen right.... unfortunate but that's just the way genetics crumble sometimes right?

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@CRiSPrGrow, She still isn't flowering. It does look like it, but that has been the case for about 4-5 weeks now. I'm going to transplant this weekend into a 7 gallon pot. Once she is recovered, I'm going to "flip" her.

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 96 years ago

Re: scrog net - plant ties, nets or otherwise, either method should control height pretty well. Regardless, I think ur gonna end up with a 30” plant here dude😉👍😎

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TheBudWhisperercommented6 years ago

@Quexos, please show for sure dude. And yeah - ph is def. not the issue. For soil ur right in the wheel house👍

Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, That's nothing. I was just worried it would get over 4 ft. I've been getting some weird discoloration on new leaf growth. It goes away as the leaf gets older, but I decided to look it up. I might be having pH problems. I did a slurry test and my soil is at 6.76 and 440 PPM. I can easily drop it, but 6.76 shouldn't be causing lock out of any sort. I'll put in some photos when I do my update this week.

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420_observercommentedweek 196 years ago

Beautiful work !! Well done.

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@@420_observer, Thanks!

magicUmbrellacommentedweek 166 years ago

Cool one! Gl

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@magicUmbrella, Thanks! It's been a long, long grow. This was supposed to be an auto!

Puffer_Billcommentedweek 176 years ago

Looks nice, healthy and strong. 💪🏽😀👊🏼

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@Puffer_Bill, Thanks! I'm pretty happy with her.

smurgrowcommentedweek 146 years ago

Wow, this is a weird grow 😀 I hope it will transition into a nice photo period grow with big yields! Do you think the order got mixed up and they shipped photoperiod seeds?

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@smurgrow, It was a freebie when I ordered from Seedsman. I contacted Dutch Passion about the problem. They recommended that I just treat it like a photo. They thought it was mis-labeled somehow. They said the chances of one of their autos not flowering was 0%! I'm not worried. She looks great right now! There are tons of viable bud sites. I have at least 5 bud stalks that are going to be huge! The only issue I'm having right now is trying to keep it defoliated enough to get light into the canopy. She is thick like a bush.

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Finsfancommentedweek 96 years ago

I can't believe she's still vegging. I've heard of autos doing that every once in awhile;luckily I've yet to experience this. Hopefully once u put lighting to 12/12 it makes a change; good luck! Liking great otherwise

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@Finsfan, This is a first for me. I didn't know autos could not flower. She is growing like crazy since I repotted her into a 7g. container. I've also been adding Cal-Mag. She was looking a bit yellow. I'll give her another week to recover then I'll flip her. I think my other autos are ready for harvest. That opens up the tent.

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TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 106 years ago

End of day prob. a good call on the transplant for sure dude. Make er a photo and run the light sched. Change I guess right? Re: leaf colouring - I wanna say mag. Deficiency right out the gate. Only problem is that it usually presents itself in older growth. More than likely (if there’s actually a problem because this going away) it’s root binding and may clear up in the next few days👍. Good luck with it dude🤞👊

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@TheBudWhisperer, The girl is definitely making me earn my buds!

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Finsfancommentedweek 66 years ago

I'm growing same strain and my leaves fave some strange growth too them too

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@Finsfan, I have no idea what causes that variegation. It doesn't seem to hurt the plant, unless you count not flowering when its supposed to!

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Legalize_itcommentedweek 26 years ago

Doing great man! Good luck! 👌🏻

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Quexoscommented6 years ago

@Legalize_it, Thanks! She is twice the size of these pictures today! She is soaking up the new feedings! I really think all of my plants go nuts for Recharge though!

TheBudWhisperercommentedweek 146 years ago

👍😎👍👌💪😎! Nuff said

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Qlimaxcommentedweek 194 years ago

I dont understand how can autoflower grow 19weeks? If there is like 75days max....???? I dont wanna be negative or anything just wondering...

Quexoscommented4 years ago

@Qlimax, Read the diary. It explains everything.

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