Kool Aid Acid Test

@CRiSPrGrow, I gave it another week. There is still little change. I only used Recharge and no nutes at all. I'll just use plain water for a week or so and see if that helps. I can't completely stop defoliating. This strain puts out so many fat leaves, it shades everything above it. I'll try to keep it at a minimum if I can. Raising the light has had little effect on height either. Thanks for the ideas. Worse comes to worse, I can transplant into a larger pot, and treat her like a photo. The auto tent will be open in a few weeks.

@TheBudWhisperer, I've never had any deficiencies in my grow before. I'm using a new brand of nutes though. I also switched soils, so who knows. Yeah, I don't want to haul that plant out of the tent every morning. I keep saying, "Give it one more week!"

@Quexos, I can appreciate that for sure. If it helps u make up your mind I’m actually the opposite with my feedings and switch to my bloom cycle of nutes the same week I flip the light sched. So far no deficiencies at all really. It follows botanicares recommended schedule too but every nute co. Will be a little different obviously. Whatever you do decide I’m hoping u won’t have to haul it in and out every damn day for 2 months - that would suck.

@Quexos, 100% full recommendation - resilient and easy to grow IMO👍

@TheBudWhisperer, Ack! Now its in writing! I havent grown enough yet to know my favorite strain. I really like to buy diesel strains, but I haven't grown any yet. Soon! I have some auto diesel seeds coming from a breeder in the U.S. I'm really excited.

@Quexos, lol! Yeah she shot down the home brew idea right quick cuz I woulda done exactly that! Lol. And I agree whole heartedly - I have some staple strains (northern lights & diesel) but try to grow something different every grow as well. Gotta keep “diversifying” so to speak. As far as the light is concerned - the price is the other thing she doesn’t know... 😉👍

@ChainsawSanta, Thanks a bunch! Other than not being an auto, she has been a dream to grow.

@Quexos,Interesting, well whatever she ends up being shes absolutely gorgeous. Very nice job taking care of her with that surprise twist haha!

@ChainsawSanta, No idea really. This seed was a freebie from Seedsman. It was labelled auto. I contacted Dutch Passion and they said it HAD to be mislabelled. They said there was zero chance it was one of their autos. I guess it could be the photo version.

@TheBudWhisperer, Experience is key! I've only been growing for a year now. This will be my 4th and 5th grow. Every time I start, I think I have it dialed in for the perfect grow. But then you get snow storms, variegated leaves, autos that aren't, etc.. Keeps it interesting I guess.

@Quexos, pretty much yeah. But only because we often forget we’re growing life at the end of the day. Sometimes it’s just what it is. I was chatting with a dude the other day about germ. Rates - we were both sitting at like 99% and then all of a sudden you go on a streak where like 75% don’t even pop... WTF?!?! That’s life I guess😂. Shit I’m dealing with it right now lol

@TheBudWhisperer, This is the first time I've run into anything like this. I've had some plants take forever to show true flowers, but never an auto not auto! The longer I grow the more often these weird things are going to happen I guess.

@TheBudWhisperer, The only info I've been able to find is that this is an XXL seed. I would imagine that a high yielding plant might take longer to develop before it flips. You make a good point about genetics though. I just got some free seeds from Fastbuds. They are an AK47 style strain. supposedly they are the same way. They take a long time to flower, and they grow out of the tent! I had heard that about a lot of Pineapple Express. They are kinda wild!

@Quexos, hear that and no worries. And I’ve seen this issue with autos before too. Pretty sure it was @dunkjunk Pineapple Express grow. Check it out and it might give u a timeline if ya got the same thing. Could just be that the ruderalis trait is weak or non-existent in er. No way to really know until she flowers.... or doesn’t. 🤔 his grow was messed up, And the results were ridonk!

@TheBudWhisperer,I know that in other plants its an adaptation to light. I had never seen it in plants.I wasn't worried at first, but I was reading one of the cannabis newsletters and they were talking about some sort of tobacco mosaic virus and it freaked me out. I'm not really worried anymore though. The only symptom is the variegation and that is probably genetic. I'm a little more concerned about this plant not going into flower. She will be 7 weeks this Friday and I am not seeing any pre-flowering at all. I can force flip her, but it would require me to pull her out of the tent daily and put her in a dark closet. I'm going to wait until the 7 week mark then maybe make a decision. Hey, thanks for looking at the photos. Always good to have another set of eyes.

@Quexos, that’s probably a better guesstimate than 8 regardless. It always seems somewhere around those weeks. Unless ur growing the grin - that strain is straight up fucked!

@TheBudWhisperer, I used to go with the idea of a 10 week flowering period, but that doesn't work anymore.

@Quexos, meh - I don’t really pay much attention to the weeks anymore. Anything around the 8 week mark seems about right and she finishes when she finishes. Ur about to be significantly rewarded for that extra veg. Time though - fo sho!

@Quexos, you bet. 4 plant limit per property here so I’ll be running two on the back deck and 2 under the cobs (probably with a little cycle overlap to keep things steady😉). That said, I’ve also got access to another property and will be running at least a couple more over there too. My indoor space is the prime real estate now though - safest, most controllable and no access for anyone other than me and the misses👍

@TheBudWhisperer, You have outdoor season coming up right? Are you going to run outdoors and under the COBs? I might be able to put a small auto in a pot outside. I worry about neighbors and meter readers.

@Quexos, dude tell me about it. I have the exact same problem only with photos. Tried to sneak in an auto run before spring, ran into germ. Issues, now root rot and now I’m a month behind on a photo cycle for humbolt and spliff seeds😡. Only good news is that the new space and cobs are up and running👍. We’re behind on the grow list but the next runs are gonna be better than ever!

@TheBudWhisperer, Yeah, she was certainly a problem child. She had all sorts of problems early on. There was the variegated leave thing. Then she started showing a lot of yellowing. Cal-Mag seemed to solve all of those problems though and she is super healthy looking. I ended up contacting Dutch Passion. They said to treat it like a photo since it was probably mis-labelled. They also said there was zero chance that it was an auto since it didn't flower on its own.

@Quexos,yeah mon - those 5-8 secondary’s will make all the difference IMO. Bet ur just happy that she actually/finally flowered! 😂😂😂

@TheBudWhisperer, I really think she will produce. She has at least 5 major bud stalks going. There are another 5-8 secondary stalks that are right behind the top ones n development.

@CRiSPrGrow, I guess. Its never happened to me, but I haven't been growing that long. I think its more likely the seed was not an auto. You are right though. "That's the way the genetics crumble!"

@Quexos, these things happen right.... unfortunate but that's just the way genetics crumble sometimes right?

@CRiSPrGrow, She still isn't flowering. It does look like it, but that has been the case for about 4-5 weeks now. I'm going to transplant this weekend into a 7 gallon pot. Once she is recovered, I'm going to "flip" her.

@Quexos, please show for sure dude. And yeah - ph is def. not the issue. For soil ur right in the wheel house👍

@TheBudWhisperer, That's nothing. I was just worried it would get over 4 ft. I've been getting some weird discoloration on new leaf growth. It goes away as the leaf gets older, but I decided to look it up. I might be having pH problems. I did a slurry test and my soil is at 6.76 and 440 PPM. I can easily drop it, but 6.76 shouldn't be causing lock out of any sort. I'll put in some photos when I do my update this week.

@@420_observer, Thanks!

@magicUmbrella, Thanks! It's been a long, long grow. This was supposed to be an auto!

@Puffer_Bill, Thanks! I'm pretty happy with her.

@smurgrow, It was a freebie when I ordered from Seedsman. I contacted Dutch Passion about the problem. They recommended that I just treat it like a photo. They thought it was mis-labeled somehow. They said the chances of one of their autos not flowering was 0%! I'm not worried. She looks great right now! There are tons of viable bud sites. I have at least 5 bud stalks that are going to be huge! The only issue I'm having right now is trying to keep it defoliated enough to get light into the canopy. She is thick like a bush.

@Finsfan, This is a first for me. I didn't know autos could not flower. She is growing like crazy since I repotted her into a 7g. container. I've also been adding Cal-Mag. She was looking a bit yellow. I'll give her another week to recover then I'll flip her. I think my other autos are ready for harvest. That opens up the tent.

@TheBudWhisperer, The girl is definitely making me earn my buds!

@Finsfan, I have no idea what causes that variegation. It doesn't seem to hurt the plant, unless you count not flowering when its supposed to!

@Legalize_it, Thanks! She is twice the size of these pictures today! She is soaking up the new feedings! I really think all of my plants go nuts for Recharge though!

@Qlimax, Read the diary. It explains everything.